Thank you for the deep dive on both issues. My first thought reading about Nauta’s attorney is that she’s being set up to be ramroded by Trump’s lawyers.
Ari Melber just did an extended podcast with Floyd Abrams on the First Amendment. For the layperson, it was invaluable information.
Thank you for the deep dive on both issues. My first thought reading about Nauta’s attorney is that she’s being set up to be ramroded by Trump’s lawyers.
Ari Melber just did an extended podcast with Floyd Abrams on the First Amendment. For the layperson, it was invaluable information.
I share your concern Rosalie. The local Florida attorney's fees are being paid by tfg''s "Save America PAC". PACER is shamefully inadequate for many reasons. The Judge's ECR access Order should be a professional embarrassment unless Nauta is going for an ineffective counsel defense. I have seen no evidence of his Florida's attorney's competence with national defense informantion or the required evidentiary procedures. This is a Mistrial waiting to happen.
Cassidy Hutchinson once had the same arrangement but, she dumped her hack attorney for competent counsel to complement her administrative & witness skills. I do not think Trump's Diet Coke waiter can handle it except say 'Yes Sir' & salute.
1. 2nd year Sisters-in-Law student is a good thing. Incompetent counsel is NOT a defense but, is sometimes used on appeal when things go really bad at the Trial level.
2. Yes, PACER produces accurate procedural data on Court action in chronological Order. Recorded Court action is very much a reality anchor. We just need PACER 2.0.
3. As you know, no cameras in Federal Court but, some judges will allow a photograph before taking the Bench. Such a "Master Shot" helps make sense of the audio feed.
I agree that delay is harnful to everyone; purposeful delay is subject to a range of Court sanctions including issue penalties. Time to call the first Witness.
Bryan, in my experience inadequate assistance of counsel is a boilerplate grounds for an appeal, especially when the defendant has waived their right to appeal as part of a plea deal. Things don't have to "go really bad."
It is extremely hard to claim inadequate legal representation once the client agrees to let someone else choose and pay for their attorney. Why this young woman, who practices law in family court, was deemed suitable representation for Nauta tells me there's someone else behind her who is going to use her as a puppet of sorts. She's going to be way over her head, it will disrupt proceedings and Nauta will ask the court to dismiss her (it's not easy to fire your lawyer, often you have to explain to the court and get their approval). There might be a request made by the other attorneys for severance, meaning that they'll ask the court to try both defendants separately.
Got it Matycat but, I am working out the many factors of Mimi's thought, a Motion for Severance by Nauta's counsel who must discharge her fiduciary duties of competence &`loyalty to her client while facing the most capable & tough Jack Smith & Team. I have exactly one contact in Florida to consult.
Monday 7/10/23 Up Motion for Severance through Mimi, thank you.
MONDAY UPDATE 7 PM Pacific:
Mimi:
You sre correct; Judges/Cannon-Reinhardt did GRANT a motion to SEVER yesterday to 2 of 5 Defendants in the US vs. Carver et al case. The 2 severed Defendants TRIAL was re-set in 6 1/2 Weeks on 9/25/23. So severance can be obtained but, note the Prosecutor did NOT object.
Background:
I took Professor Vance's advice & was able to access U.S. vs. Carver, 9:22-cr-80022 on Court Listener. Note, a Motion to Withdraw (very difficult) was also posted on PACER on 7/9/23 in the Carver case.. I do not have the details
We still need a reality check on what is or is not possible in this Florida District Court system & how much purposeful delay will be tolerated by the Court.
More than once I've thought that Ari and Joyce, doing the literal exercise of debating opposing opinions on issues, would be utterly fascinating and educational. I love to learn, but with personalities that are vibrant and informed and not lacking humor, even those who resist learning become more informed. DEBATES ARE GOOD!!! Also, how marvelous would it be to have an example of decorum.
This is A little Off-subject but you DID mention Ari Melber! He had a recent podcast in which he interviewed the 3 Asst. US attnys in Maryland who brought the indictment against Spiro Agnew back in 1973. It was a wonderful segment as well as entertaining and informative re the decision to offer him the deal they did (no prison, one count of tax evasion). (I thought I could easily find the Date it aired, but no luck so far)
Thank you for the deep dive on both issues. My first thought reading about Nauta’s attorney is that she’s being set up to be ramroded by Trump’s lawyers.
Ari Melber just did an extended podcast with Floyd Abrams on the First Amendment. For the layperson, it was invaluable information.
I share your concern Rosalie. The local Florida attorney's fees are being paid by tfg''s "Save America PAC". PACER is shamefully inadequate for many reasons. The Judge's ECR access Order should be a professional embarrassment unless Nauta is going for an ineffective counsel defense. I have seen no evidence of his Florida's attorney's competence with national defense informantion or the required evidentiary procedures. This is a Mistrial waiting to happen.
Cassidy Hutchinson once had the same arrangement but, she dumped her hack attorney for competent counsel to complement her administrative & witness skills. I do not think Trump's Diet Coke waiter can handle it except say 'Yes Sir' & salute.
3 comments for fave newsletter-
1) I'm just a 2nd ye
ar Sisters-in-Law student, but wondered if incompetent counsel was a defense.
2) No good alternative to PACER? Could be a place where reality-deniers can be directed to find truth, like an anchor.
3) Trial should be televised (somehow)
Americans have been waiting for something factual about Trump for YEARS. It's exhausting. Tell us SOMETHING.
The people deserve to see oaths being taken.
🙏
1. 2nd year Sisters-in-Law student is a good thing. Incompetent counsel is NOT a defense but, is sometimes used on appeal when things go really bad at the Trial level.
2. Yes, PACER produces accurate procedural data on Court action in chronological Order. Recorded Court action is very much a reality anchor. We just need PACER 2.0.
3. As you know, no cameras in Federal Court but, some judges will allow a photograph before taking the Bench. Such a "Master Shot" helps make sense of the audio feed.
I agree that delay is harnful to everyone; purposeful delay is subject to a range of Court sanctions including issue penalties. Time to call the first Witness.
🏛 🙏
Bryan, in my experience inadequate assistance of counsel is a boilerplate grounds for an appeal, especially when the defendant has waived their right to appeal as part of a plea deal. Things don't have to "go really bad."
You can bet that if Nauta is forced to appeal, based on inadequate assistance of counsel, Trump's Save America PAC won't be paying for it.
Wish I’d read this thread before posting. Her profile is jaw dropping for this kind of case.
Concur. Nauta's other Attorney, STAN WODWARD, has not yet filed his
Required F86 Form for the necessary security clearance. Delay.
It is extremely hard to claim inadequate legal representation once the client agrees to let someone else choose and pay for their attorney. Why this young woman, who practices law in family court, was deemed suitable representation for Nauta tells me there's someone else behind her who is going to use her as a puppet of sorts. She's going to be way over her head, it will disrupt proceedings and Nauta will ask the court to dismiss her (it's not easy to fire your lawyer, often you have to explain to the court and get their approval). There might be a request made by the other attorneys for severance, meaning that they'll ask the court to try both defendants separately.
Got it Matycat but, I am working out the many factors of Mimi's thought, a Motion for Severance by Nauta's counsel who must discharge her fiduciary duties of competence &`loyalty to her client while facing the most capable & tough Jack Smith & Team. I have exactly one contact in Florida to consult.
I feel that severance is the path to more fair outcomes for both.....meaning, accurately sentenced.
Monday 7/10/23 Up Motion for Severance through Mimi, thank you.
MONDAY UPDATE 7 PM Pacific:
Mimi:
You sre correct; Judges/Cannon-Reinhardt did GRANT a motion to SEVER yesterday to 2 of 5 Defendants in the US vs. Carver et al case. The 2 severed Defendants TRIAL was re-set in 6 1/2 Weeks on 9/25/23. So severance can be obtained but, note the Prosecutor did NOT object.
Background:
I took Professor Vance's advice & was able to access U.S. vs. Carver, 9:22-cr-80022 on Court Listener. Note, a Motion to Withdraw (very difficult) was also posted on PACER on 7/9/23 in the Carver case.. I do not have the details
We still need a reality check on what is or is not possible in this Florida District Court system & how much purposeful delay will be tolerated by the Court.
Respectfully,
bsm
Yes, I agree. Ari is a gem. Soooo helpful!
More than once I've thought that Ari and Joyce, doing the literal exercise of debating opposing opinions on issues, would be utterly fascinating and educational. I love to learn, but with personalities that are vibrant and informed and not lacking humor, even those who resist learning become more informed. DEBATES ARE GOOD!!! Also, how marvelous would it be to have an example of decorum.
I’m sure Ari could find a hip hop line about the chickens too
gawdI hope so!!!!!
This is A little Off-subject but you DID mention Ari Melber! He had a recent podcast in which he interviewed the 3 Asst. US attnys in Maryland who brought the indictment against Spiro Agnew back in 1973. It was a wonderful segment as well as entertaining and informative re the decision to offer him the deal they did (no prison, one count of tax evasion). (I thought I could easily find the Date it aired, but no luck so far)