💥💥💥💥💥As Joyce just described, Trump and his minions just love to attack people verbally. They know how much it upsets normal people. But they are much less skilled at maneuvering through government procedures that are necessary to actually accomplish things. They have clownish, lousy lawyers.
I've been thinking a lot about how we can survive mentally and emotionally during the next 4 years. Does trump have a tell that lets you know when you can ignore him? Inspired by Jonathan V Last of the Bulwark, I think he does.
Kathleen, speaking of "clownish, lousy lawyers", on 11/15 Newsweek reported that Rudy G was ordered by the bankruptcy Judge to turn over his Mercedes once owned by Lauren Bacall to Ruby & Shaye.
I see a priceless selfie with Shaye in the Driver's seat with a fist bump parked outside the 4 Seasons Total Landscaping garage. ✊🏽
As I understand it, the things the president is immune from are things that are done in the line of presidential duty. What trump did on Jan 6 was all about campaigning for office, which is not a presidential duty. That's what Jack Smth has said, and it's why he refiled essentially the same charges as before the SCOTUS ruling.
Thank you. With almost daily outrageous behaviors, how and how often do we respond to or ignore Musk and Trump wild, egregious, dangerous, clownish acts?
When they take action, we fight the action. When they talk, we wait to see what action they take. The millions of words spent lying about the 2020 election resulted in 60 lawsuits, all of which failed.
I've already begun the big ignore ~ I refuse to buy in to what ever national media has to offer. I read several substacks and that enough for me to feel like I'm informed. For those of you interested in LGBTQ+ issue, I highly recommend Erin in the Morning
~ she really delivers the facts on issues important to us all! What's good for our transgender community, is good for us all!! Yes, we are in this together!
Discrediting immigrants by association is never a good tactic. Better to point out that he's an arrogant oligarch with no apparent loyalty to either democracy or the United States.
Musk himself is an illegal immigrant who came into the US via Canada on a student visa. While he matriculated, he dropped out to work on the first thing he was able to sell for big bucks. So he continued on his abused student visa to stay here illegally. He should be first in line for the bus out.
If it were up to me, he'd be sent off in a leaky boat. I never realized how bloody-minded I could be until this crowd came along. The big challenge is finding a peaceful, legal, and *effective* way to deal with them.
I've never heard that, but it should be made very public for all to hear and often! With the immense focus on and action against immigrants and illegal immigration, it should be shouted from the rooftops often.
It's also worth remembering that, with the exception of peoples native to the "New World," we're all immigrants, and many of us came here out of necessity, economic, political, and/or religious. And the earliest white arrivals weren't exactly respectful of those who were already here.
“Elonia” should be the first one in line for deportation. Since he is in Texas, he won’t have to travel far to his new home…Governor Abbott’s new deportation camp!
No it's not transphobic. Please. It's the silly name given since Elon started acting like Trump's other wife. Melania and Elonia. Nothing to do with trans.
Oh please. Let it go. And how is it trans phobic? Is everything trans these days. Next you might be suggesting that the transcontinental railroad is homophobic.
As Duke Ellington once said, when someone asked him "what is jazz?"-
"If you don't know by now, don't mess with it."
(Cliffs' Notes) By feminizing Elbow's name, it attempts to demean, to make him less than males. I would say it's more misogynistic than trans-anything.
I hope it gets remembered that Elon offered a tiny submarine to help rescue the boys soccer team trapped in the flooding cave in Thailand. The cave diver experts declined the offer as unusable. Musk then called their leader a “pedo.” Juvenile then and now.
I care for transgender youth and sorry, I like it. Elonia does not. Keep doing it. He clearly has had many gender affirming surgeries and continues to receive gender affirming care so it should be called out. Why isn't it illegal for him to get it when others can't? And he does not like it, so even better.
But I suspect that we--participants on Joyce's substack and other similar sources of info--know this well, while many, many others, the millions of Fox viewers, have no clue.
UN-fortunately, the number of Faux viewers who will find their way here is probably less than zero.
If the term "anybody" refers in any way to the oligarchy propaganda organ formerly known as "network TV", don't bother waiting, it's not going to happen in this decade.
Janet, yes, Vindman is a hero, but alas, our media is so trapped in Trumplandia, they just can't manage to acknowledge what is true. They can't call Musk out on what he has been doing that is illegal, like consulting an adversary like Putin, lying incessantly on Xtwiter, and who knows what he has been forcing the corporations he has been permitted to purchase to do. These are not good people, Musk, Trump, and that whole cadre of fools who would bring this nation down for their own personal gain, no matter who is harmed. Intelligence is not running wild among the Trump-Musk insanity.
Lots of judges--even R-appointed judges, even TFG-appointed judges--won't kiss the *ss of this felonious president. Lot of them. We need to stay alert and keep resisting, and make sure they know we're watching. Not foolproof, but a source of more strength than we may realize. I hope.
The courts of law have never been 100% trustworthy, regardless of who's in the White House. How much justice you get, and how much injustice you can get away with, has much to do with how much you can pay. Look at how much Trump has gotten away with over the decades.
It was strange to me that treason wasn't a charge against Trump in the Florida case. He clearly had state secrets. Did he make documents available to enemies?
Joyce gave the following definition from the Criminal Code. Since we are not at war with any country, no one can be put on trial for treason.
Treason, both the crime established in the Constitution and the one found in the U.S. criminal code, requires that a defendant act with the specific intent to betray the United States and that to do so, they provide aid and comfort to a country that we are at war with.
The last time the United States was in a formally declared war was World War 2: 1941- 1945. The charge of treason was vastly overused in England, so the US constitution made it very hard to convict a person of treason.
If treason is limited to providing aid and comfort to countries with which we are at war, then does betrayal of our allies by providing aid for the countries at war with them count as treason? If so, there are several instances where tfg committed treason.
The war has to be a war formally declared by Congress. The last time the United States was in in a war formally declared by Congress was World War II 1941- 1945.
Treason is a crime specifically defined as "levying war against the government or giving aid or comfort to its enemies." My understanding is that it must be in support of an enemy that the U.S. is at war with. Trump didn't do that. Plenty else, but not that, as far as I understand it.
It's the "or" part that is throwing me. They are intentionally levying war against the United States by conducting a "hostile takeover of the American government", in their own words.
I know the phrase "none dare call it treason" because it was the title of an anti-communist screed published in 1964 by one John Stormer, but I didn't know the context. Sir John sure got that right!
True enough, but I avoid "spectrum" when it comes to political persuasions. My high school history teacher pointed out that it looks more like a horseshoe, with far right and far left approaching but never touching each other. And those marginalized in the particular system, e.g., women and people of color in the U.S., don't fit comfortably on it.
Well, she was talking about political systems, not laws specifically. I've found it helpful all these decades because it encourages us to see the similarities between far right (e.g., Mussolini and Hitler) and far left (e.g., Stalin). The linear spectrum makes it too easy to see right and left as opposites.
I don’t agree that “Musk’s words are just words.” They amount to a tacit invitation to violence against Vindman. (And as an aside, if anyone should be accused if treason, it’s Trump.)
Marina, exactly what I’m thinking. Every flush of a toilet I’ll try to think of the orange slime going into exactly where he really belongs with all his lying cronies.
Unfortunately, as Tevye sings in 'Fiddler on the Roof,' "When you're rich, they think you really know." Enough Americans are ill-informed and in thrall to wealth that Musk will get away with a lot lies. Our challenge is to defend truth, decency, and democracy in words and action.
Well one wd hope so: 2 statements of fact, both highly defamatory. Recklessly as to their truth. Made to an audience of millions. Not sure what else might be required in the US
Yes there was! The claim that Vindman took payments from an Ukraine autocrat is a factual statement. It’s false and injurious to reputation, and uttered with (at best) reckless regard for its truth or falsity. That constitutes libel for which Musk can be held liable.
I am hoping that all Dems other than Joe and Jill Biden and Kamala and her spouse boycott the Inauguration. I believe they need to be there but no other Dems!! Also hoping ALL Dems boycott Trump’s first state of the union address.
Oh heck. Let Joe and Jill and Kamala and Doug skip it too. I'm all for supporting our institutions, but attending the inauguration? Let's quit being polite about the small stuff. They don't know what that even is.
I think Dems should hold a rocking party on Jan 20 with a bunch of big names: Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Eminem, JT, P!nk, etc. and call it the "Love over Hate" festival. Invite all the media and make them demonstrate their allegiance.
Unfortunately, if crowds are thin the news media will either be too frightened to pan their cameras to the crowd or they will be instructed by their boss not to, and I’m sure there will be a story to cover. Either way news is being and has been compromised and censored. We’ve seen the beginnings of this during the campaign. I’m pretty sure it’s only going to get worse.
But why is Musk smearing Vindman? Because a) he wants to kiss up to DJT, and b) because Musk is an anti-patriot who does not care about the rule of law, only the rule of money.
Exactly. Musk, like Trump, accuses others of what he himself is guilty, thereby seeking to inoculate the charge against himself by muddying the water. Typical narcissist schoolyard retort - “I know you are, but what am I?”
And they want to continue the flood of ridiculous claims and lies to divert attention from their actions. And low-information voters will believe Musk without question because they are not watching mainstream media.
I would like to see the Military and Intelligence Community pushing back. Of course, to most effectively do it they may not want to announce it ahead of time.
Good for you, not selling all Republican Senators short. As voluminous as Chump's backside is, not every Senator's lips are attached to it. Support the Republican senators who are gathering strenghth to stand up to him!
Here, right matters. In my neighborhood, in my church, my town and precinct, in my city council, and school districts, RIGHT MATTERS. And no one is going to hear it if we don’t say it. No one is going to do it or love it stand up for it if we don’t. There is no justice without us.
We must do our part, whatever little part it is, whatever small corner we light up, all because whatever bit of right we bring, RIGHT matters. And if we don’t do it, no one else can join us, and the coming, very necessary uprising won’t happen, because no one can join what we don’t start. So we have to start. Just our own little bit of light that will bring someone else along.
Wasn't it also Sissy SpaceX who threatened to arrest mayors of those cities that declared themselves to be sanctuary cities? By what authority is that person (and I use that term liberally) deciding that he has the ability to threaten legally elected officials with arrest? IOW, who died and made him God?
Also Alexander Vindman is a Congresscritter, newly-elected. He'll be serving in the new Congress in January. Is Elno going to burst into the House chamber, screeching 'J'accuse' or something?
Oops. You're right. They are identical twins, though. I'd like to see Elno, who's terminally confused, burst into the House chamber, pointing his bony finger at the wrong Vindman. Would be hysterical.
Vindman is a hero. Why doesn't anyone ever mention that Musk is an immigrant and that his brother said that they both came into the U.S. illegally.
💥💥💥💥💥As Joyce just described, Trump and his minions just love to attack people verbally. They know how much it upsets normal people. But they are much less skilled at maneuvering through government procedures that are necessary to actually accomplish things. They have clownish, lousy lawyers.
I've been thinking a lot about how we can survive mentally and emotionally during the next 4 years. Does trump have a tell that lets you know when you can ignore him? Inspired by Jonathan V Last of the Bulwark, I think he does.
The mouth that roars
When is it safe to ignore Trump?
https://kathleenweber.substack.com/p/the-mouth-that-roars
Kathleen, speaking of "clownish, lousy lawyers", on 11/15 Newsweek reported that Rudy G was ordered by the bankruptcy Judge to turn over his Mercedes once owned by Lauren Bacall to Ruby & Shaye.
I see a priceless selfie with Shaye in the Driver's seat with a fist bump parked outside the 4 Seasons Total Landscaping garage. ✊🏽
He turned over the car, but not the title or the keys!
What a sleaze. As far as the Vindman accusation, doesn’t it seem like the Jan 6 attack was treason and thus donthecon is guilty of treason?
Or stealing, keeping, selling top secret Government information to our enemies….
... and more. But, I posted an analysis of bent Wreck's "impoundment" on TCinLA's TAFM Substack, 'That's A Fine Mess'.
Not according to the Supreme Court, and that's the problem. It can't be a crime if he was still the president, as I understand it.
As I understand it, the things the president is immune from are things that are done in the line of presidential duty. What trump did on Jan 6 was all about campaigning for office, which is not a presidential duty. That's what Jack Smth has said, and it's why he refiled essentially the same charges as before the SCOTUS ruling.
Yes progwoman there's a big problem. But, the overt acts cannot be "private acts". See Senator Whitehouse for sober solution(s).
No, he can’t be tried during his presidency, and anything he did outside of his official duties are fair game, which I’m sure Smith documented.
The law on J6 is a very bumpy road but, the end of the road is "self executing".
Still room in the Choir for Carols.
Uh, yeah?
You are correct but, Heroines' Counsel is on it.
Thank you. With almost daily outrageous behaviors, how and how often do we respond to or ignore Musk and Trump wild, egregious, dangerous, clownish acts?
When they take action, we fight the action. When they talk, we wait to see what action they take. The millions of words spent lying about the 2020 election resulted in 60 lawsuits, all of which failed.
What an interesting read! Much like “infrastructure…two weeks,” lol
Absolutely, I was thinking about that as I wrote it but I left the infrastructure bit out.
I've already begun the big ignore ~ I refuse to buy in to what ever national media has to offer. I read several substacks and that enough for me to feel like I'm informed. For those of you interested in LGBTQ+ issue, I highly recommend Erin in the Morning
~ she really delivers the facts on issues important to us all! What's good for our transgender community, is good for us all!! Yes, we are in this together!
Discrediting immigrants by association is never a good tactic. Better to point out that he's an arrogant oligarch with no apparent loyalty to either democracy or the United States.
Musk himself is an illegal immigrant who came into the US via Canada on a student visa. While he matriculated, he dropped out to work on the first thing he was able to sell for big bucks. So he continued on his abused student visa to stay here illegally. He should be first in line for the bus out.
If it were up to me, he'd be sent off in a leaky boat. I never realized how bloody-minded I could be until this crowd came along. The big challenge is finding a peaceful, legal, and *effective* way to deal with them.
I have had identical thoughts so don’t feel bad.
If he's illegal, he should be deported.
Can he be shipped back ?
Musk is a South African White Racist …
I've never heard that, but it should be made very public for all to hear and often! With the immense focus on and action against immigrants and illegal immigration, it should be shouted from the rooftops often.
It's also worth remembering that, with the exception of peoples native to the "New World," we're all immigrants, and many of us came here out of necessity, economic, political, and/or religious. And the earliest white arrivals weren't exactly respectful of those who were already here.
Borrowed your words. Hope it’s ok
“Elonia” should be the first one in line for deportation. Since he is in Texas, he won’t have to travel far to his new home…Governor Abbott’s new deportation camp!
Calling Musk 'Elonia' is a tasteless transphobic slur. I refer to him as Melon Husk. That too is disrespectful, but only to him.
No it's not transphobic. Please. It's the silly name given since Elon started acting like Trump's other wife. Melania and Elonia. Nothing to do with trans.
Oh please. Let it go. And how is it trans phobic? Is everything trans these days. Next you might be suggesting that the transcontinental railroad is homophobic.
As Duke Ellington once said, when someone asked him "what is jazz?"-
"If you don't know by now, don't mess with it."
(Cliffs' Notes) By feminizing Elbow's name, it attempts to demean, to make him less than males. I would say it's more misogynistic than trans-anything.
That makes sense to me. I'd add that although I can't stand Lindsey Graham, right-on lefties who refer to him as "Miss Lindsey" piss me off.
Really?
I agree. There’s a lot you can say to criticize the loathsome Elon Musk without misgendering him. If nothing else it is juvenile.
I hope it gets remembered that Elon offered a tiny submarine to help rescue the boys soccer team trapped in the flooding cave in Thailand. The cave diver experts declined the offer as unusable. Musk then called their leader a “pedo.” Juvenile then and now.
Elonia to me sounds like a country, not a female name.
And I say go gives a flying f**k? Certainly not me!
I think maybe Mike thought it sounded russian and no more to it
I care for transgender youth and sorry, I like it. Elonia does not. Keep doing it. He clearly has had many gender affirming surgeries and continues to receive gender affirming care so it should be called out. Why isn't it illegal for him to get it when others can't? And he does not like it, so even better.
Kao, are you saying musk is trans......just on the way he looks ?
Why the gender slur? Gratuitous and harmful to far more people than you intended.
"Anyone"? Musk's immigrant status has been noted many times in posts and articles.
But not noted is the illegal entry.
That point is made by many of the sources in question.
But I suspect that we--participants on Joyce's substack and other similar sources of info--know this well, while many, many others, the millions of Fox viewers, have no clue.
UN-fortunately, the number of Faux viewers who will find their way here is probably less than zero.
If the term "anybody" refers in any way to the oligarchy propaganda organ formerly known as "network TV", don't bother waiting, it's not going to happen in this decade.
Or in the next century.
It would be a slur against immigrants.
Janet, yes, Vindman is a hero, but alas, our media is so trapped in Trumplandia, they just can't manage to acknowledge what is true. They can't call Musk out on what he has been doing that is illegal, like consulting an adversary like Putin, lying incessantly on Xtwiter, and who knows what he has been forcing the corporations he has been permitted to purchase to do. These are not good people, Musk, Trump, and that whole cadre of fools who would bring this nation down for their own personal gain, no matter who is harmed. Intelligence is not running wild among the Trump-Musk insanity.
How can we trust the courts of law when the president will be a felon?
Lots of judges--even R-appointed judges, even TFG-appointed judges--won't kiss the *ss of this felonious president. Lot of them. We need to stay alert and keep resisting, and make sure they know we're watching. Not foolproof, but a source of more strength than we may realize. I hope.
This is a window of opportunity for Vindman.
And how will he travel, as a felon is barred from entry into many countries?
But the Trump camp will judge shop so they get one that will bend the knee.
I would like to believe it and honestly, I do, but I would also like to know, how can we be even remotely sure that it is the case.
The courts of law have never been 100% trustworthy, regardless of who's in the White House. How much justice you get, and how much injustice you can get away with, has much to do with how much you can pay. Look at how much Trump has gotten away with over the decades.
Trump and Musk fit your definition of treason far better than Alex.
It was strange to me that treason wasn't a charge against Trump in the Florida case. He clearly had state secrets. Did he make documents available to enemies?
The key to the Treason statute: the aid and comfort must be given to a nation with which we are at war.
Though true in a metaphorical sense, the United States was not at war with itself nor with any other country, (Russia, et. al.) at that time.
A crime he committed, no doubt whatsoever is violating the National Secrets Act.
Many wondered the same:
“ strange to me that treason wasn't a charge against Trump in the Florida case.”
Could someone please enlighten us?
Joyce gave the following definition from the Criminal Code. Since we are not at war with any country, no one can be put on trial for treason.
Treason, both the crime established in the Constitution and the one found in the U.S. criminal code, requires that a defendant act with the specific intent to betray the United States and that to do so, they provide aid and comfort to a country that we are at war with.
Kathleen,
I humbly thank you for your patience and your clear explanation.
Regards from chilly Boston!
A "hostile takeover of the American government" doesn't fit this?
The last time the United States was in a formally declared war was World War 2: 1941- 1945. The charge of treason was vastly overused in England, so the US constitution made it very hard to convict a person of treason.
Just another loophole in this nightmare
If treason is limited to providing aid and comfort to countries with which we are at war, then does betrayal of our allies by providing aid for the countries at war with them count as treason? If so, there are several instances where tfg committed treason.
The war has to be a war formally declared by Congress. The last time the United States was in in a war formally declared by Congress was World War II 1941- 1945.
Treason is a crime specifically defined as "levying war against the government or giving aid or comfort to its enemies." My understanding is that it must be in support of an enemy that the U.S. is at war with. Trump didn't do that. Plenty else, but not that, as far as I understand it.
It's the "or" part that is throwing me. They are intentionally levying war against the United States by conducting a "hostile takeover of the American government", in their own words.
What am I missing here?
easy...lame AG
We’ll never know!
“Treason doth never prosper, what’s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.” Sir John Harrington
I know the phrase "none dare call it treason" because it was the title of an anti-communist screed published in 1964 by one John Stormer, but I didn't know the context. Sir John sure got that right!
Your comment reveals your awareness that Sir John recognized that treason and repression occur within the entire political spectrum.
True enough, but I avoid "spectrum" when it comes to political persuasions. My high school history teacher pointed out that it looks more like a horseshoe, with far right and far left approaching but never touching each other. And those marginalized in the particular system, e.g., women and people of color in the U.S., don't fit comfortably on it.
What a great way for a teacher to describe the perils of our laws!
Well, she was talking about political systems, not laws specifically. I've found it helpful all these decades because it encourages us to see the similarities between far right (e.g., Mussolini and Hitler) and far left (e.g., Stalin). The linear spectrum makes it too easy to see right and left as opposites.
For sure!!
I don’t agree that “Musk’s words are just words.” They amount to a tacit invitation to violence against Vindman. (And as an aside, if anyone should be accused if treason, it’s Trump.)
trying to intimidate? bully tactic.
Marina, exactly what I’m thinking. Every flush of a toilet I’ll try to think of the orange slime going into exactly where he really belongs with all his lying cronies.
Can Vindman sue for libel or slander?
Unfortunately, as Tevye sings in 'Fiddler on the Roof,' "When you're rich, they think you really know." Enough Americans are ill-informed and in thrall to wealth that Musk will get away with a lot lies. Our challenge is to defend truth, decency, and democracy in words and action.
A similar question: is it possible for American citizens to file a class action suit against the president and/or his administration?
Oh, where do we begin...?
KMB....yes, it's called voting
That is a great idea
I'm with ya. I feel like we've all been put through a meat grinder for the last 9yrs. That has to be under the undue stress and duress category
Very good question. I have wondered that myself. I wish Ms. Vance would weigh in on that question.
Trump would. That is extremely libelous.
Well one wd hope so: 2 statements of fact, both highly defamatory. Recklessly as to their truth. Made to an audience of millions. Not sure what else might be required in the US
There were no “statements of fact” in Mr. Musk’s words. That’s partially why it’s defamatory.
Yes there was! The claim that Vindman took payments from an Ukraine autocrat is a factual statement. It’s false and injurious to reputation, and uttered with (at best) reckless regard for its truth or falsity. That constitutes libel for which Musk can be held liable.
Then you have to hire an attorney which can be expensive if you're dealing wxth the richest man on the planet!!!
I reckon there’d be a queue of good deffo lawyers longer than a city block happy to take on this one for nothing.
I was also thinking of If I were a Rich Man!
"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it." ~ 1984
And that right there is the ultimate goal for Trump to achieve. All in the diabolical plan set forth by Leonard Leo and Vlad.
Leo is a master of the long game. Ugh
This is petty, but . . . I hope nobody goes to the inauguration.
I am hoping that all Dems other than Joe and Jill Biden and Kamala and her spouse boycott the Inauguration. I believe they need to be there but no other Dems!! Also hoping ALL Dems boycott Trump’s first state of the union address.
Oh heck. Let Joe and Jill and Kamala and Doug skip it too. I'm all for supporting our institutions, but attending the inauguration? Let's quit being polite about the small stuff. They don't know what that even is.
Why give this walking disaster legitimacy? No. I say stay away. This bunch is pathetic.
Nothing happened when trump didn't attend Biden's inauguration. The difference now is that Biden and Harris are not rude.
i just want to see a massive amount of empty seats at the inauguration. Like your ideas as well.
Wouldn’t that be great? What a way to stick it to a man whose main concerns are adulation and crowd size.
I think Dems should hold a rocking party on Jan 20 with a bunch of big names: Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Eminem, JT, P!nk, etc. and call it the "Love over Hate" festival. Invite all the media and make them demonstrate their allegiance.
That's why the Peoples March on Jan 18th has to be hhuuggee!
Unfortunately, if crowds are thin the news media will either be too frightened to pan their cameras to the crowd or they will be instructed by their boss not to, and I’m sure there will be a story to cover. Either way news is being and has been compromised and censored. We’ve seen the beginnings of this during the campaign. I’m pretty sure it’s only going to get worse.
I'm sure we can get some clever drone pilots to sneak some pictures.
Exactly the kind of petty that would piss off TFG something awful.
Sorry, it will be well attended. Perhaps even putin will be there.
Well u know the guy from Hungry will be somewhere in that crowd or at the Florida residence.
Yes ! Helping trump to get it right......
They'll stack the crowd with blonde shills... PAID blonde shills that will look hungry to suck off the McTraitor.
In a sense that's exactly what will happen.
But why is Musk smearing Vindman? Because a) he wants to kiss up to DJT, and b) because Musk is an anti-patriot who does not care about the rule of law, only the rule of money.
Because Vindman's comment about Musk being a Russian asset is true, & Musk knows it.
Exactly. Musk, like Trump, accuses others of what he himself is guilty, thereby seeking to inoculate the charge against himself by muddying the water. Typical narcissist schoolyard retort - “I know you are, but what am I?”
And they want to continue the flood of ridiculous claims and lies to divert attention from their actions. And low-information voters will believe Musk without question because they are not watching mainstream media.
Exactly. Watch the left hand while the right robs you blind.
That is just a bonkers thing for Musk to say. Flat out bonkers.
Yeah, but you have to hit them back harder than you were hit. Trump’s version of the golden rule as taught by Roy Cohn and absorbed by Elon.
It’s already terrifying what this criminal cabinet of the next Trump admin. is going to be like, I see that novel becoming reality now.
I would like to see the Military and Intelligence Community pushing back. Of course, to most effectively do it they may not want to announce it ahead of time.
Musk is such a Turd imo.
He had to buy Twitter so someone would Listen to him. An insecure squishy nothing-burger. His opinion of himself is wildly overrated.
Well that, and he does have $300 billion.
Money, like racist assholes, is flammable.
“We are the guardrails . . .” I just love that!! And I’m in all the way.
I’m counting on 4 or 5 republican senators to defeat these stupid, dangerous nominations. And the courts to do their part. Me? I’m a guardrail!!
Thank you, Joyce!!
Good for you, not selling all Republican Senators short. As voluminous as Chump's backside is, not every Senator's lips are attached to it. Support the Republican senators who are gathering strenghth to stand up to him!
yes, do you know who they are?
Count me in as a guardrail!
Well and forcefully said
Here, right matters. In my neighborhood, in my church, my town and precinct, in my city council, and school districts, RIGHT MATTERS. And no one is going to hear it if we don’t say it. No one is going to do it or love it stand up for it if we don’t. There is no justice without us.
We must do our part, whatever little part it is, whatever small corner we light up, all because whatever bit of right we bring, RIGHT matters. And if we don’t do it, no one else can join us, and the coming, very necessary uprising won’t happen, because no one can join what we don’t start. So we have to start. Just our own little bit of light that will bring someone else along.
Right matters and we are in this together.
Wasn't it also Sissy SpaceX who threatened to arrest mayors of those cities that declared themselves to be sanctuary cities? By what authority is that person (and I use that term liberally) deciding that he has the ability to threaten legally elected officials with arrest? IOW, who died and made him God?
Also Alexander Vindman is a Congresscritter, newly-elected. He'll be serving in the new Congress in January. Is Elno going to burst into the House chamber, screeching 'J'accuse' or something?
Alexander’s twin brother Eugene has been elected to the House.
Oops. You're right. They are identical twins, though. I'd like to see Elno, who's terminally confused, burst into the House chamber, pointing his bony finger at the wrong Vindman. Would be hysterical.
nothing about this is funny to me, oddly enough.
I am so glad to hear this. I completely went off line after the election for about 2 weeks. I just couldn't bring myself to read any of it.
Eugene (Alex’s twin brother) will be in Congress, not Alex himself :)
You're correct. See my reply to Margaret MacKenzie. My bad.
Could be. If Musk is (or wants to be)j Wolsey to Trump’s Henry, there may well a general willing to be Harrison to Trump’s Cromwell.
Thank you for this column!