Today was quite a day. The January 6 committee finished the way it started, delivering the goods in a straightforward manner, absent political posturing, with some really good video and graphics to illustrate their findings for those of us who are visual learners.
Until the press holds the GOP accountable in their reporting none of them have to abandon ship. Until the press starts questioning the 36 congress members who aided and abetted Jan 6th, and continue to down play it , they will never be held accountable and we stay in this state of limbo in public opinion.
If the press was not complicit the GOP would already have been forced to self correct.
Back in 2020, I looked forward to Election Day because I naively thought that Trump's electoral defeat would mark the beginning of the end of Trumpism. Based on all that has occurred since then I don't think that a successful prosecution of Trump will end the Republican Party's embrace of Fascism, but I do think it will slow down its spread.
trump is good at slithering out of tough spots, but I have high hopes that doesn't happen in this case. If ever there was a crooked SOB who has done this country massive harm, it is this guy. There are others, some of them with massive amounts of dark money who need to be taught some lessons, too, but that is a fish of another color, but maybe one day....great coverage by MSNBC, and you were front and center with a great cast of commentators and contributors, Joyce Vance. As mom used to say when I scored 25 pts, ya done swell. Rest up. You earned it. Again.
Good evening Joyce on a cold winter night. 39 degrees on the West Coast. I draw the line below that. I’m just hoping Jack Smith can make quick sense out of all this. Looks like the issue is not will they charge 45 but when and for what exactly 🧐
One of the most disturbing thing revealed by the Jan 6 Committee was the enemy within. Those elected and appointed officials who were at least as corrupt, if not more so, than those who came to DC + brought weapons to the Capital with the intent of doing bodily harm - up to murder - of the VP and others. Every branch of govt participated in the coup planning, execution and coverup (using Ginni Thomas as connection to SCOTUS). Many of these people are still active and wield power. The threat is not behind us as long as these people are not held to account. Hope the DOJ goes for all of them.
Would you write more on obstruction of Justice. For example, what penalties can be applied if someone chooses not to tell the whole truth? How do you prove they know something they should remember but say they don’t recall? What impact does (repeatedly) taking the fifth have on the truth? How does a Grand Jury compel someone to be honest? People are untruthful all the time with no consequences.
I get what you mean, but I'm not holding my breath for many Republicans to find their shriveled or non-existant consciences or balls. They have made it very clear that they will not. I'm beyond sick and tired of power over everything else. Again, thank you and I hope you get some time to enjoy the holidays!
Excellent synopsis again, Joyce. I hope this gets discussed on your podcast, SistersInLaw. I too am tired of the wait and see. But I fear we have much more of it on the horizon. I’m also tired of the press and their “unprecedented” nonsense. What he DID was unprecedented. Remind people of that. Sometimes, in their attempt to not look partisan, they play the “each side has merit” crap. Not in this instance they don’t! Ugh! Ok, anxiously awaiting your analysis of the executive report from the committee. Thank you for all you do. Enjoy the holidays.
Thanks, Joyce, for this “summary” and for your thoughts. If the cat and dog allow, I hope to read the report released yesterday, and all those to follow. Love to you, Cleo, and your entire love nest!
Thank you, Joyce. You have a clear mind and a terrific ability to clearly summarize. I really depend on your posts to help me understand the contours of an issue and focus on what is important. After reading your essays I am better equipped to understand the news amidst all the noise.
Joyce, thanks for this summary and for your helpful comments.
I appreciate your reminder that just because we are able to recognize that someone has done something clearly wrong doesn’t necessarily mean that prosecutors will charge them with a crime. One thing I have learned from listening to your sisters-in-law podcasts is that there are usually a number of parameters that must be met to mount a prosecution that is likely to result in a conviction.
Until the press holds the GOP accountable in their reporting none of them have to abandon ship. Until the press starts questioning the 36 congress members who aided and abetted Jan 6th, and continue to down play it , they will never be held accountable and we stay in this state of limbo in public opinion.
If the press was not complicit the GOP would already have been forced to self correct.
Back in 2020, I looked forward to Election Day because I naively thought that Trump's electoral defeat would mark the beginning of the end of Trumpism. Based on all that has occurred since then I don't think that a successful prosecution of Trump will end the Republican Party's embrace of Fascism, but I do think it will slow down its spread.
trump is good at slithering out of tough spots, but I have high hopes that doesn't happen in this case. If ever there was a crooked SOB who has done this country massive harm, it is this guy. There are others, some of them with massive amounts of dark money who need to be taught some lessons, too, but that is a fish of another color, but maybe one day....great coverage by MSNBC, and you were front and center with a great cast of commentators and contributors, Joyce Vance. As mom used to say when I scored 25 pts, ya done swell. Rest up. You earned it. Again.
“Slither,” is such a perfect word to use to describe pence. Ha ha.
Good evening Joyce on a cold winter night. 39 degrees on the West Coast. I draw the line below that. I’m just hoping Jack Smith can make quick sense out of all this. Looks like the issue is not will they charge 45 but when and for what exactly 🧐
One of the most disturbing thing revealed by the Jan 6 Committee was the enemy within. Those elected and appointed officials who were at least as corrupt, if not more so, than those who came to DC + brought weapons to the Capital with the intent of doing bodily harm - up to murder - of the VP and others. Every branch of govt participated in the coup planning, execution and coverup (using Ginni Thomas as connection to SCOTUS). Many of these people are still active and wield power. The threat is not behind us as long as these people are not held to account. Hope the DOJ goes for all of them.
Would you write more on obstruction of Justice. For example, what penalties can be applied if someone chooses not to tell the whole truth? How do you prove they know something they should remember but say they don’t recall? What impact does (repeatedly) taking the fifth have on the truth? How does a Grand Jury compel someone to be honest? People are untruthful all the time with no consequences.
I get what you mean, but I'm not holding my breath for many Republicans to find their shriveled or non-existant consciences or balls. They have made it very clear that they will not. I'm beyond sick and tired of power over everything else. Again, thank you and I hope you get some time to enjoy the holidays!
Excellent synopsis again, Joyce. I hope this gets discussed on your podcast, SistersInLaw. I too am tired of the wait and see. But I fear we have much more of it on the horizon. I’m also tired of the press and their “unprecedented” nonsense. What he DID was unprecedented. Remind people of that. Sometimes, in their attempt to not look partisan, they play the “each side has merit” crap. Not in this instance they don’t! Ugh! Ok, anxiously awaiting your analysis of the executive report from the committee. Thank you for all you do. Enjoy the holidays.
Happy xmas week Joyce. Appreciate your summary tonight.
Good read. Thank you. I think my vocabulary needs a new workout, but I'm grateful for your amazing input.
Thank you so much. Happy Hanukkah!
Thanks, Joyce, for this “summary” and for your thoughts. If the cat and dog allow, I hope to read the report released yesterday, and all those to follow. Love to you, Cleo, and your entire love nest!
Thank you, Joyce. You have a clear mind and a terrific ability to clearly summarize. I really depend on your posts to help me understand the contours of an issue and focus on what is important. After reading your essays I am better equipped to understand the news amidst all the noise.
Thank you Joyce, so much gratitude as always ! and to these pretty wonderful comments here. I hope you get some rest... and that Cleo is fine !!
Joyce, thanks for this summary and for your helpful comments.
I appreciate your reminder that just because we are able to recognize that someone has done something clearly wrong doesn’t necessarily mean that prosecutors will charge them with a crime. One thing I have learned from listening to your sisters-in-law podcasts is that there are usually a number of parameters that must be met to mount a prosecution that is likely to result in a conviction.