Another great argument for cameras in federal court. Perhaps more people would understand that this is how it’s routinely done. Judge Kaplan treated this defendant like every other defendant. Trump’s worst nightmare is to be treated like everyone else. Looking forward to closing arguments and a hefty punitive award.
We should take whatever legal measures available to pressure the courts to have Trump’s trials on camera for ALL citizens to see and hear. Perhaps there should also be some ruling to prevent the tapes from being edited by mischief makers - looking at you Fox & Friends.
Keeping in mind that Inmate P01135809 has lost many cases over the years only to drag them out as long as possible, often to the point the plaintiffs settle for far less than they initially had coming to them... Because real people have bills to pay...
I myself would be very interested in how he operates his various things and pays the bills to keep the lights on... You don't pay the Electric Bill and they just disconnect your A**... No court litigation involved... I think it could be both interesting and informative to know...
I think he's relying on the pennies of the poor. He uses his campaign fund, his save America crap, to pay legal bills. I think he expects thst as long as he plays victim the "poorly educated" he so loves will fund him. It's worked so far.
A deep dive with this in mind would be most interesting as his business model has been the same for fifty years. In those years he has never been constrained so this is the ultimate torture.
“This is not America. Not America. This is not America.” The bad news for the former president is that it is. This is the America where the rule of law still holds and where he too is required to abide by it. ..
Joyce, that’s the best comeback I’ve heard. Now let’s keep this America by voting in droves! I want a blue tsunami!!
Praying to the goddesses that the amount Trump has to pay is ginormous! And bless E.Jean Carroll for standing up for all the women who've had their pu55ie5 grabbed by this pathetic, misogynistic, creepy example of the male sex.
He is thinking his next coup will succeed and he won't have to pay. I hope they extract payment immediately, at least into a trust, so when all his treachery is done she gets what she deserves.
Right now all of his properties are in receivership. He can’t touch them and that’s where the value is. He probably doesn’t have $150 million to scratch up the fraud trial E. Jean’s award (I predict a minimum award $150 million and upward to $900 million because that’s what it will take to shut up.
He doesn’t have enough to pay cash for $150 million nor he doesn’t have enough to pay what the fraud trial will cost. This means his properties will be sold, and receivership is on all of them.
And here is a link to a Newsweek article, September 2023 with a complete description of the most likely 'real' vs. Trump's inflated values. I'm hoping the
Retired federal judge Barbara Jones was appointed by Leticia James to be the independent monitor for the Trump Organization. This ensures properties are not transferred and funds are not removed until the final rulings, appeals, etc. in the NY fraud case. So far as at what point in time E. Jean Carroll will be paid her award (she is guaranteed $5 Million, but the lawsuit is regarding how much Trump has damaged her reputation. An expert testified that it would cost $12 Million to repair (Trump's by contrast is irreparable). To find out 'when' E. Jean could be paid, we need to wait for Joyce to answer.
So does Scotland. They detest him in Scotland, Ireland, England and France. This is a true story printed in the French newspaper, Le Monde: when he was in France in summer 2018 for the 100 year anniversary of the end of WWI, and during which he snubbed the ceremony 'because of rain' he made it to a ceremony the following day. At this ceremony, he took it upon himself to announce that "America has some very fine wines as well. In fact, they are actually superior to French wines." The French now hate him very much for that and for other reasons, but especially for that. He is just pompous.
Every time he arrives in Scotland (and the other countries) a protest group shows up with a HUGE helium balloon, made in the likeness of Trump. It takes a number of people to hold it from flying off into the sky - looks like 50-100 or maybe they just want to hold it to be part of the protest. It is orange colored, wearing a diaper, hair like Trump's, in a diaper with a cell phone in his hand.
Here's a YouTube - looks like this one was in England. It debuted there first - because he was invited to visit the Queen. The British hated that, and got together with one another to greet him with this balloon. It looks like 200 people in this crowd.
I don’t know what I was thinking because the conversation was not attached to your kind remark to me. But thank you so much, new and dear friend. We are all here, doing this together, as our little tribe grows:). Maybe we’ll meet at a march somewhere. All is well, and all will be well:) 💙
Oh I see, I was sharing how little wealth he actually has and how much much France, England, Scotland and Ireland dislike him - so they bought this orange helium balloon with a likeness of Trump with his cell phone in his hand, wearing diapers and his orange body and his flaming hair… They ship it from country to country when he’s due to show up and then hundreds of them get together and parade hit around. Oh yes, he has ruined himself in Europe, and had the gall to go over there and open a golf course after they had protested him. I guess he just doesn’t know where he isn’t wanted. We keep trying to tell him over and over and over “We. Do. Not. Want. You.” And yet he stays. Imposing himself.
" Former President Donald Trump’s lawyers were granted permission from a judge on Friday to deposit $5.55 million to a New York federal court while they appeal the May verdict in which a jury found Trump liable for defamation and sexual assault of writer E. Jean Carroll and ordered $5 million in damages."
If you want to appeal in New York you have to put a bond that the award can be paid if you lose the appeal.
Sorry but... Trump is being judged by upstanding individuals who value the rule of law and stand well above anyone he’s ever associated with. His peers are slimy, green single cell parasites better known as pond scum.
And those "upstanding individuals" have the ability to lay punitive damages against him, as they should, for so miserably mouthing off on his untruth social about E. Jean Carroll, mouthing off in public, mouthing off anywhere he can get away with it. This guy has never known "consequences". It's time.
I agree with all the above ! I was particularly impressed and pleased with Judge Kaplan today. Trump needs to be confronted, when he steps out of line. Which is everytime he opens his mouth. Hope you are safely home with your family and chickens tonight !
I agree and sure hope all the other judges in his many cases are paying attention. Judge Kaplan knows how to deal with his outlandish behavior, stop it before it starts!!!
So glad you are here to walk us through this insanity. As you do when I listen to you calmly explaining what we are seeing, you allow me to breathe and not burst into bad language.
Trump can’t help himself. He is an egomaniacal narcissist. My hope is that his own words convince the jury to give E. Jean Carrol a huge settlement. I cannot even imagine what will happen to our country ... We must keep telling the empty-headed followers of Trump to look at the stark differences between Biden and Trump. Biden wants to build up our Nation where Trump just wants to tear it down so he can be king.
I am sure the judge’s instructions to the jury will be effective. Sarcasm. This judge is all bark and no bite. Only the jury is important and they have not spoken. Only takes one to nullify or hang for an effective trump victory. The Rule of Law is just a dog whistle now. Alabama suffocates an inmate with nitrogen today. He reportedly writhes for several minutes after his final meal of steak and eggs from Waffle House. We really are Reagan’s shining city on a hill.Tempus fugit.
As I understand it, this is a civil case and a unanimous verdict is not required, but in NY the judge lays out how many jurors are required for a liability verdict. As I further understand it, the jury was unanimous in the first $5 million judgment, but my question for Joyce in the present case is this: Is a unanimous verdict required or not? If someone has a concrete source for an answer to this question, I’d appreciate it.
Tonight after my Zoom class finished, I took a quick look at The NYTimes and WAPO for their headlines. Trump was in article after article after article, his photos plastered everywhere (yes, just like in 2016). It made me sick. He is behaving as if he is already president! He has his whole MAGA MADNESS MANIACS following his every wish. Forget the border! And aid to Ukraine? How's about this? I read that North Korea's Kim Jong Un will be aiding Putin in his war against Ukraine. How on earth can we allow all this to happen?!? My husband and I have said at times, that Trump has taken a toll on our mental health, and not in a good way. He has worn us down, which is just what he wants. But wait, I'm not going to be worn down for the next months into the Nov. 2024 election. I refuse to give up. The most punitive thing we can do to Trump is fail to make him president again. Every single individual must vote. Every single individual must take it upon him/herself to do more than vote, to spend a few hours a week to help turn this country in the right direction. Complaining and grumbling does no good in preventing Trump from gaining office again. Write letters, write postcards, phone bank, go door to door, join an organization that works to strengthen democracy. Help voters register to vote. Offer to drive your neighbors who cannot take themselves, to vote. Choose one important legislative task and work at it. I'm meeting with some people from The League of Women Voters (which I just joined) to gather signatures for the Abortion Access petition. And if you vote by mail (as we do) please be sure that you are registered for this year's election, please don't assume it's automatic. I believe we can do this. And if we do, Trump will still say he won but he won't be in The White House any longer. I believe we can also regain the House and win more seats in the Senate. Hakeem Jeffries will be our Speaker of the House, not a Jan. 6th denier.
Many thanks, Joyce, for this latest update. Gosh, are we finally starting to see justice? Shout out to Judge Kaplan for holding fast to the rule of law.
Okay, trump is just becoming boorish now. Trite. He's a whiny complainer. A wimp. He has zero business in becoming the leader of our nation again; he did too much damage the first time. I hope the jury nails him for about $50 million. He deserves more, but that amount will hurt him nonetheless. Let's get on to the next case, and quickly. I yield back my time.
It concerns me that he seems to have broken every rule or ignored every order that he was to comply with and has suffered not the first consequence! He seems to already own the country! Most people who rape are put in prison, but he is allowed to buy his way out. So far, he is above the law.
Since the initial case was brought in civil not criminal court, we have a judgement instead of jail. I guess the criminal conduct would have been a higher case to prove. Too bad he’s not going behind bars.
No, it wasn’t a higher case to prove. She was frightened for her life to bring the case during the time of statute of limitations for rape. She testified that she tried to put it out of her mind When she brought the case for civil it was when the ‘me too’ movement had transpired. There a new New York law that provided a window that she could bring the case as civil. She did so in one, but Trump, of course appealed and lost the appeal. He also defamed her, so her attorney came back with this new case after she won to stop him from defaming her because every time he does that she receives death threats. So the jury awarded $5 million in the prior case but after he has continued to defame her, E. Jean’s attorney, Robbie Kaplan, is asking a minimum of $10 million to restore her reputation. She will ask the jury to provide whatever amount will shut him up and of course we know that’s going to be very hard to do no matter the amount awarded.
He will appeal, but he had his day in court. In fact, when the first trial went on, he was in Scotland, avoiding the trial and spent one day, cutting a ribbon for his golf course in Scotland; then he and Eric went to Ireland to go for nine days and he was trying to claim the trial went on without him having a chance to testify… Even when he knew five months in advance that it was scheduled. So the judge delayed the trial after it finished for one whole week for him to come back and testify, but he refused. Now he’s testifying because he knows he’s going to be in line for a sum of money and I’m hoping it’s very large. He ruined her life , and that’s kind of big.
Michael, Perfect. This is a fabulous suggestion, and we need to forward this to Robbie. I don’t have Robbie’s personal email, but my friend does. I am sending this to her tonight. Absolutely brilliant idea.
I don’t think we could do a GoFundMe for E. Jean for proper security services for her, such as having 24 hour guards and such. But I’m thinking we could do something splendid if we set up some kind of a swear jar on a website and have people donate a dollar each time he denigrates E. Jean. Can you imagine if just 100,000 got out of our credit card and put a dollar in the swear jar every time we heard him or heard about him doing a truth social comment. What an effect that would have. So, instead of him, not paying, we would, and we would use that on billboards and social media advertising: “Security for eugene is now at $ ——-00 per day. I think we could fund three round the clock, former FBI, black ops, CIA folks (except I heard that CIA folks never leave the company). Just 75,000 of us could fund it. By the way, I don’t think he’s shutting up. I think we can count on ten blatherskite blasts from him. he has no intention of paying anything so he is not going to shut up. He thinks he’s going to be elected and then he is going to have retribution against everyone.
I sent it to Robbie via a friend. It will most likely be hand-delivered to her in the am. I think it is a fab idea. I know that E. Jean is having a struggle paying for security. My friend Gloria Horton-Young has suggested on this substack and others that we support E. Jean by joining her substack, whether paid or unpaid - to show support. But so far as finding a way to help her pay for additional security (right now she has an electric wire fence around her property with her pit bull running freely as protection. And she has a gun that her father (now deceased) gave her. What do you think of the idea of a baseball like pool thing that we could sell/purchase the tickets and donate the cash to her? Probably not legal as it is a kind of betting.
Yes!!! I already sent the message off - so I don't want to interrupt again. That's a terrific idea. But it will all add up. At $100,000 per, and he easily blatherskites ten per day, he would be at $1 Million per day. Every day. She could own the Scotland gold course, which the Sottish people would love. The dislike him so much, they fly the 'Orange Baby in diapers with cell phone helium balloon' every time he shows up - takes 200 or so folks to hold it. They first flew it in England. Then France - Ireland used it this past year. And I think it even traveled to SF here in the US. But she could own Mara Lardo as well.
Thanks for the clarification. I fear no amount will shut him up since he probably thinks if he pays, that it is paying her off for whatever he wants to say about her. I’m hoping for an amount on the order of the Giuliani verdict.
I hoped so too. What I find hard to believe is the enormous difference in tfg's verdict and Giuliani's. Both were defamation cases and sexual assault was committed in tfg's which deserves jail time. How can that be?
Indeed. I think it will be more. I just posted a suggestion by another member of the Substack for the creation of a 'swear jar' to fine him $100,000 per utterance. It will add up.
Ps L. Leck, E. Jean has DNA evidence on her dress that she saved. That would be sperm. After the statute of limitations expired, he offered to give his DNA. I’m hoping the New York statute of limitations will be changed to that of being able to give the court retroactive DNA. How would he explain his sperm allegedly being on her dress? My big question is if that all happens with the statute of limitations changing, proof of DNA submitted as evidence and the court saying “well, your sperm is on the dress that her ex-husband, friends, and everyone else has known has been in her closet, so does that mean she is telling the truth?”
He will either go completely silent, or he will have some ‘creative’ explanation.
He has 24/7 Secret Service watching him. If he leaves his passport will be canceled anyway and he won’t be allowed to return.
Any place he’s going will give him a golden passport from the current dictator. However, he’s no use to them anymore. I doubt Saudi Arabia wants him. Putin thinks he’s a fool.
If we knew the answer to that we wouldn't be in the mess we are currently in. I don't understand why he isn't already behind bars for the rest of his life...he certainly deserves to be.
Another great argument for cameras in federal court. Perhaps more people would understand that this is how it’s routinely done. Judge Kaplan treated this defendant like every other defendant. Trump’s worst nightmare is to be treated like everyone else. Looking forward to closing arguments and a hefty punitive award.
We should take whatever legal measures available to pressure the courts to have Trump’s trials on camera for ALL citizens to see and hear. Perhaps there should also be some ruling to prevent the tapes from being edited by mischief makers - looking at you Fox & Friends.
Keeping in mind that Inmate P01135809 has lost many cases over the years only to drag them out as long as possible, often to the point the plaintiffs settle for far less than they initially had coming to them... Because real people have bills to pay...
I myself would be very interested in how he operates his various things and pays the bills to keep the lights on... You don't pay the Electric Bill and they just disconnect your A**... No court litigation involved... I think it could be both interesting and informative to know...
I think he's relying on the pennies of the poor. He uses his campaign fund, his save America crap, to pay legal bills. I think he expects thst as long as he plays victim the "poorly educated" he so loves will fund him. It's worked so far.
A deep dive with this in mind would be most interesting as his business model has been the same for fifty years. In those years he has never been constrained so this is the ultimate torture.
I believe his grifting and political donations pay many of his bills. Hoping that karma is finally coming home to roost in a bigly way.
Amen
Yes Donald......this IS America!
“This is not America. Not America. This is not America.” The bad news for the former president is that it is. This is the America where the rule of law still holds and where he too is required to abide by it. ..
Joyce, that’s the best comeback I’ve heard. Now let’s keep this America by voting in droves! I want a blue tsunami!!
What Donald meant to say is that this is not the America he has been lying to and heisting for decades.
👏👏
Praying to the goddesses that the amount Trump has to pay is ginormous! And bless E.Jean Carroll for standing up for all the women who've had their pu55ie5 grabbed by this pathetic, misogynistic, creepy example of the male sex.
He is thinking his next coup will succeed and he won't have to pay. I hope they extract payment immediately, at least into a trust, so when all his treachery is done she gets what she deserves.
Right now all of his properties are in receivership. He can’t touch them and that’s where the value is. He probably doesn’t have $150 million to scratch up the fraud trial E. Jean’s award (I predict a minimum award $150 million and upward to $900 million because that’s what it will take to shut up.
He doesn’t have enough to pay cash for $150 million nor he doesn’t have enough to pay what the fraud trial will cost. This means his properties will be sold, and receivership is on all of them.
We sure don't here this news do we? The great businessman has EVERY property attached by the "horrible" banks? I hope mar a lago too.
Delightful news.
Here you go. The NJ golf course is not listed.
Mar-a-Lago, Florida. ...
Trump Tower Triplex, Manhattan. ...
Trump Park Avenue, Manhattan. ...
40 Wall Street, Manhattan. ...
Aberdeenshire Golf Course, Scotland.
And here is a link to a Newsweek article, September 2023 with a complete description of the most likely 'real' vs. Trump's inflated values. I'm hoping the
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-properties-list-new-york-fraud-lawsuit-1830237
Retired federal judge Barbara Jones was appointed by Leticia James to be the independent monitor for the Trump Organization. This ensures properties are not transferred and funds are not removed until the final rulings, appeals, etc. in the NY fraud case. So far as at what point in time E. Jean Carroll will be paid her award (she is guaranteed $5 Million, but the lawsuit is regarding how much Trump has damaged her reputation. An expert testified that it would cost $12 Million to repair (Trump's by contrast is irreparable). To find out 'when' E. Jean could be paid, we need to wait for Joyce to answer.
Ty so much! I hope scotland place will be FIRST to be sold!
So does Scotland. They detest him in Scotland, Ireland, England and France. This is a true story printed in the French newspaper, Le Monde: when he was in France in summer 2018 for the 100 year anniversary of the end of WWI, and during which he snubbed the ceremony 'because of rain' he made it to a ceremony the following day. At this ceremony, he took it upon himself to announce that "America has some very fine wines as well. In fact, they are actually superior to French wines." The French now hate him very much for that and for other reasons, but especially for that. He is just pompous.
Every time he arrives in Scotland (and the other countries) a protest group shows up with a HUGE helium balloon, made in the likeness of Trump. It takes a number of people to hold it from flying off into the sky - looks like 50-100 or maybe they just want to hold it to be part of the protest. It is orange colored, wearing a diaper, hair like Trump's, in a diaper with a cell phone in his hand.
Here's a YouTube - looks like this one was in England. It debuted there first - because he was invited to visit the Queen. The British hated that, and got together with one another to greet him with this balloon. It looks like 200 people in this crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN4ozsC75o4
That visit they also flew the Mexican flag over his property.
So proud of my Scot's brothers and sisters.
In his words, he has been “debanked” as opposed to debunked!
I so love the way you think.
I don’t know what I was thinking because the conversation was not attached to your kind remark to me. But thank you so much, new and dear friend. We are all here, doing this together, as our little tribe grows:). Maybe we’ll meet at a march somewhere. All is well, and all will be well:) 💙
Oh I see, I was sharing how little wealth he actually has and how much much France, England, Scotland and Ireland dislike him - so they bought this orange helium balloon with a likeness of Trump with his cell phone in his hand, wearing diapers and his orange body and his flaming hair… They ship it from country to country when he’s due to show up and then hundreds of them get together and parade hit around. Oh yes, he has ruined himself in Europe, and had the gall to go over there and open a golf course after they had protested him. I guess he just doesn’t know where he isn’t wanted. We keep trying to tell him over and over and over “We. Do. Not. Want. You.” And yet he stays. Imposing himself.
Can that happen? That he is forced to pay up immediately?
" Former President Donald Trump’s lawyers were granted permission from a judge on Friday to deposit $5.55 million to a New York federal court while they appeal the May verdict in which a jury found Trump liable for defamation and sexual assault of writer E. Jean Carroll and ordered $5 million in damages."
If you want to appeal in New York you have to put a bond that the award can be paid if you lose the appeal.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2023/06/23/trump-deposits-55-million-in-new-york-court-to-pay-e-jean-carroll-as-he-awaits-appeal-response/
What a lovely idea.
I hope this jury of his peers cleans his clock! Or, at least cleans out a painful amount of money from his infected sweaty palms :-)
Sorry but... Trump is being judged by upstanding individuals who value the rule of law and stand well above anyone he’s ever associated with. His peers are slimy, green single cell parasites better known as pond scum.
And those "upstanding individuals" have the ability to lay punitive damages against him, as they should, for so miserably mouthing off on his untruth social about E. Jean Carroll, mouthing off in public, mouthing off anywhere he can get away with it. This guy has never known "consequences". It's time.
Nicely put!!
I agree with all the above ! I was particularly impressed and pleased with Judge Kaplan today. Trump needs to be confronted, when he steps out of line. Which is everytime he opens his mouth. Hope you are safely home with your family and chickens tonight !
I agree and sure hope all the other judges in his many cases are paying attention. Judge Kaplan knows how to deal with his outlandish behavior, stop it before it starts!!!
So glad you are here to walk us through this insanity. As you do when I listen to you calmly explaining what we are seeing, you allow me to breathe and not burst into bad language.
Trump can’t help himself. He is an egomaniacal narcissist. My hope is that his own words convince the jury to give E. Jean Carrol a huge settlement. I cannot even imagine what will happen to our country ... We must keep telling the empty-headed followers of Trump to look at the stark differences between Biden and Trump. Biden wants to build up our Nation where Trump just wants to tear it down so he can be king.
Thank you for your insights, Joyce.
I am sure the judge’s instructions to the jury will be effective. Sarcasm. This judge is all bark and no bite. Only the jury is important and they have not spoken. Only takes one to nullify or hang for an effective trump victory. The Rule of Law is just a dog whistle now. Alabama suffocates an inmate with nitrogen today. He reportedly writhes for several minutes after his final meal of steak and eggs from Waffle House. We really are Reagan’s shining city on a hill.Tempus fugit.
As I understand it, this is a civil case and a unanimous verdict is not required, but in NY the judge lays out how many jurors are required for a liability verdict. As I further understand it, the jury was unanimous in the first $5 million judgment, but my question for Joyce in the present case is this: Is a unanimous verdict required or not? If someone has a concrete source for an answer to this question, I’d appreciate it.
Tonight after my Zoom class finished, I took a quick look at The NYTimes and WAPO for their headlines. Trump was in article after article after article, his photos plastered everywhere (yes, just like in 2016). It made me sick. He is behaving as if he is already president! He has his whole MAGA MADNESS MANIACS following his every wish. Forget the border! And aid to Ukraine? How's about this? I read that North Korea's Kim Jong Un will be aiding Putin in his war against Ukraine. How on earth can we allow all this to happen?!? My husband and I have said at times, that Trump has taken a toll on our mental health, and not in a good way. He has worn us down, which is just what he wants. But wait, I'm not going to be worn down for the next months into the Nov. 2024 election. I refuse to give up. The most punitive thing we can do to Trump is fail to make him president again. Every single individual must vote. Every single individual must take it upon him/herself to do more than vote, to spend a few hours a week to help turn this country in the right direction. Complaining and grumbling does no good in preventing Trump from gaining office again. Write letters, write postcards, phone bank, go door to door, join an organization that works to strengthen democracy. Help voters register to vote. Offer to drive your neighbors who cannot take themselves, to vote. Choose one important legislative task and work at it. I'm meeting with some people from The League of Women Voters (which I just joined) to gather signatures for the Abortion Access petition. And if you vote by mail (as we do) please be sure that you are registered for this year's election, please don't assume it's automatic. I believe we can do this. And if we do, Trump will still say he won but he won't be in The White House any longer. I believe we can also regain the House and win more seats in the Senate. Hakeem Jeffries will be our Speaker of the House, not a Jan. 6th denier.
Many thanks, Joyce, for this latest update. Gosh, are we finally starting to see justice? Shout out to Judge Kaplan for holding fast to the rule of law.
All of Trump's courtroom outbursts are akin to Richard Nixon's famous "I'm not a crook."
To paraphrase the late, great Doctor Hunter S. Thompson, "Trump is so crooked, he needs
Walt Nauta to screw his pants on straight."
Okay, trump is just becoming boorish now. Trite. He's a whiny complainer. A wimp. He has zero business in becoming the leader of our nation again; he did too much damage the first time. I hope the jury nails him for about $50 million. He deserves more, but that amount will hurt him nonetheless. Let's get on to the next case, and quickly. I yield back my time.
Unfortunately, since he owns Mike Johnson, he's doing tons of damage now with Ukraine and the border.
$500 MILLION
More! More! -:O
It concerns me that he seems to have broken every rule or ignored every order that he was to comply with and has suffered not the first consequence! He seems to already own the country! Most people who rape are put in prison, but he is allowed to buy his way out. So far, he is above the law.
Since the initial case was brought in civil not criminal court, we have a judgement instead of jail. I guess the criminal conduct would have been a higher case to prove. Too bad he’s not going behind bars.
No, it wasn’t a higher case to prove. She was frightened for her life to bring the case during the time of statute of limitations for rape. She testified that she tried to put it out of her mind When she brought the case for civil it was when the ‘me too’ movement had transpired. There a new New York law that provided a window that she could bring the case as civil. She did so in one, but Trump, of course appealed and lost the appeal. He also defamed her, so her attorney came back with this new case after she won to stop him from defaming her because every time he does that she receives death threats. So the jury awarded $5 million in the prior case but after he has continued to defame her, E. Jean’s attorney, Robbie Kaplan, is asking a minimum of $10 million to restore her reputation. She will ask the jury to provide whatever amount will shut him up and of course we know that’s going to be very hard to do no matter the amount awarded.
He will appeal, but he had his day in court. In fact, when the first trial went on, he was in Scotland, avoiding the trial and spent one day, cutting a ribbon for his golf course in Scotland; then he and Eric went to Ireland to go for nine days and he was trying to claim the trial went on without him having a chance to testify… Even when he knew five months in advance that it was scheduled. So the judge delayed the trial after it finished for one whole week for him to come back and testify, but he refused. Now he’s testifying because he knows he’s going to be in line for a sum of money and I’m hoping it’s very large. He ruined her life , and that’s kind of big.
I know this will not happen, but: What he needs is a "swear jar". Pay up everytime he opens his mouth about her, he has to drop in another $100K.
Or an injunction.
Michael, Perfect. This is a fabulous suggestion, and we need to forward this to Robbie. I don’t have Robbie’s personal email, but my friend does. I am sending this to her tonight. Absolutely brilliant idea.
I don’t think we could do a GoFundMe for E. Jean for proper security services for her, such as having 24 hour guards and such. But I’m thinking we could do something splendid if we set up some kind of a swear jar on a website and have people donate a dollar each time he denigrates E. Jean. Can you imagine if just 100,000 got out of our credit card and put a dollar in the swear jar every time we heard him or heard about him doing a truth social comment. What an effect that would have. So, instead of him, not paying, we would, and we would use that on billboards and social media advertising: “Security for eugene is now at $ ——-00 per day. I think we could fund three round the clock, former FBI, black ops, CIA folks (except I heard that CIA folks never leave the company). Just 75,000 of us could fund it. By the way, I don’t think he’s shutting up. I think we can count on ten blatherskite blasts from him. he has no intention of paying anything so he is not going to shut up. He thinks he’s going to be elected and then he is going to have retribution against everyone.
I sent it to Robbie via a friend. It will most likely be hand-delivered to her in the am. I think it is a fab idea. I know that E. Jean is having a struggle paying for security. My friend Gloria Horton-Young has suggested on this substack and others that we support E. Jean by joining her substack, whether paid or unpaid - to show support. But so far as finding a way to help her pay for additional security (right now she has an electric wire fence around her property with her pit bull running freely as protection. And she has a gun that her father (now deceased) gave her. What do you think of the idea of a baseball like pool thing that we could sell/purchase the tickets and donate the cash to her? Probably not legal as it is a kind of betting.
Just double his fine everytime he violates the court orders.
Yes!!! I already sent the message off - so I don't want to interrupt again. That's a terrific idea. But it will all add up. At $100,000 per, and he easily blatherskites ten per day, he would be at $1 Million per day. Every day. She could own the Scotland gold course, which the Sottish people would love. The dislike him so much, they fly the 'Orange Baby in diapers with cell phone helium balloon' every time he shows up - takes 200 or so folks to hold it. They first flew it in England. Then France - Ireland used it this past year. And I think it even traveled to SF here in the US. But she could own Mara Lardo as well.
Thanks for the clarification. I fear no amount will shut him up since he probably thinks if he pays, that it is paying her off for whatever he wants to say about her. I’m hoping for an amount on the order of the Giuliani verdict.
I hoped so too. What I find hard to believe is the enormous difference in tfg's verdict and Giuliani's. Both were defamation cases and sexual assault was committed in tfg's which deserves jail time. How can that be?
Indeed. I think it will be more. I just posted a suggestion by another member of the Substack for the creation of a 'swear jar' to fine him $100,000 per utterance. It will add up.
Ps L. Leck, E. Jean has DNA evidence on her dress that she saved. That would be sperm. After the statute of limitations expired, he offered to give his DNA. I’m hoping the New York statute of limitations will be changed to that of being able to give the court retroactive DNA. How would he explain his sperm allegedly being on her dress? My big question is if that all happens with the statute of limitations changing, proof of DNA submitted as evidence and the court saying “well, your sperm is on the dress that her ex-husband, friends, and everyone else has known has been in her closet, so does that mean she is telling the truth?”
He will either go completely silent, or he will have some ‘creative’ explanation.
And that's such a sore spot, as far as I'm concerned. I still don't understand why they didn't take his passport and/or the keys to his plane.
He has 24/7 Secret Service watching him. If he leaves his passport will be canceled anyway and he won’t be allowed to return.
Any place he’s going will give him a golden passport from the current dictator. However, he’s no use to them anymore. I doubt Saudi Arabia wants him. Putin thinks he’s a fool.
If we knew the answer to that we wouldn't be in the mess we are currently in. I don't understand why he isn't already behind bars for the rest of his life...he certainly deserves to be.
"This is the America where the rule of law still holds and where he too is required to abide by it. I look forward to more of this." - Me Too!
Your time with Ari Melber today calmed my fears for the outcome of each of Trump’s trials, especially the E. Jean Carol case. Thank you.
No pity for that fool.