Today James Carville posted a raunchy, dark rant he called "SCROTUS" that can basically reflect the entire judicial system. They have agendas, and if you have enough lawyers and can buy the time, the loopholes are there. Each delay takes me into a deeper level of cynicism and disappointment.
Charles Dickens wrote “Bleak House” for a reason. Let’s find our courage in stopping Trump in his tracks at the polls on November 5. And, in the meantime, actively support voter registration and get-out-the-vote efforts in Swing states and yours.
Bonnie, Please note that when I started drafting a response, no one else had yet replied. Because I was interrupted, by the time I posted, I saw that Tom had posted a similar reply. My choice either was to delete or to retain my post, and I chose the latter, which follows:
Prior to the High Court handing down its decision to defer hearing Trump’s immunity case until late April while also staying the pause on all J6 pre-trial proceedings, I had posted that if the Court were to act expeditiously relative to Trump’s claims of absolute immunity, we could presume the Courts, although weakened, still held. No longer is there any doubt that a presumptive presidential nominee eager to consolidate power wherein the rule of law could be subjugated to an individual has succeeded in absorbing both the Congress and the judiciary.
Accordingly, for anyone still watching and waiting to see what the Court will do next, I ask, “What are you waiting for?” My point, in the words of an old American gospel song, is that “We are the ones that we’ve been waiting for.” Instead of expecting someone else to carry the weight of this most terrifying moment in our nation’s history, we will have to do it for ourselves. We will train ourselves, acquire the knowledge and strength to keep on until we prevail.
You are right of course, but everyone has full lives and I think the power elite are hoping we will all fatigue and surrender. It is a daunting task to push for this all to be fixed, but inevitably when tasks seem most difficult is often when they are most important.
Bonnie, Thank you for writing. Upon reading your reply, the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis instantaneously came to mind. Brandeis once wrote, “Most of the things worth doing in this world had been declared impossible before they were done.”
Amen sister/bro. I have started to ignore anything that is headlined Supreme Court, Florida, or Fulton County.
It is refreshing to stay away. Following it day by day is a killer and just drives up your BP. Go on YouTube watch cute videos and see what life really matters. Please always remember. this country fought a revolution.a civil war two Wars and have come out of so many political scandals that are too numerous to count.
If I may I would like to quote one of my favorite songs. "America, our Heritage"
We sang this in our Catholic high school during the Bay of Pigs scare.
"Stout hearts and True hold fast what is ours,
God give us courage Through darkest hours,
God give us strength and guide with Thy hand
America our heritage our homeland."
Even if you don't believe in God, believe in our country.
"no longer is there any doubt".... We have never seen the likes of Trump and the defection away from the rule of law, decency, what and who we thought we are, to this pervasive low.
I think many have not woken up even yet or have their mouths stuck open in disbelief or just shrugging "this too will pass". They don't know the meaning of democracy as an active process- perhaps they think our forefathers gave us this as a gift, not a condition, an experiment actually, that has to have participants. In the meantime while some, perhaps many of us were asleep, or getting and spending, those that saw and see in Trump an opportunity, have been working away. We might wake up enough when it's too late, when the water level has reached our door.
“…..has succeeded in absorbing both the Congress and the judiciary.” Or perhaps the Congress and judiciary have absorbed him in order to further their dirty work….
Sure thing Barbara; Keep on keeping on…. It’s our last hope…..
The noise will not stop. We must not stop defending democracy, either. It is a participation type of government. We need to be sure the youth of our country understands that they must participate, too.
And I look forward to President Biden winning this Nov., also.
I sure hope so. I have to say I have a bad feeling about it. It very much feels like a hostile takeover this time. 2016 gave them a taste. 2020 showed them what they did right and what they did wrong. I am afraid 2024 they will not make the same mistakes as 2022, and they have the judiciary squarely in their court this time. In 2020, we were fresh off a horrible 4 years of Trump plus his soft coup attempt. Proved too much to overcome for the wingnuts. This time around, memories are short, young folks are disappointed in many ways (however unjustifiable), and so are people of color (again unjustifiable). Trump is winning big time in court (except New York), with the huge help of SCOTUS. Yep - got a bad feeling. I want to be wrong.
Not what I'd call raunchy as much as shooting from below and more to the center of the hip.
Mr Carville is both aggravated and distraught with what has become the MO of a once, albeit long ago, more honest political organization. The real shame is that today's living skeleton of that party is saddling our children with both monstrous financial obligations and deathly political violence, an indebtedness that the rank and file of both political parties will be paying off throughout their lives.
The nominal Catholics of our Supreme Court should look to the tenets of their purported faith for guidance instead of turning to our nation's political Judas.
While an admirable ornament on the fireplace mantle, religious faith has no place in our judicial system and every one of our "less than supreme" court justices know this.
"State's Rights" is a joke that is only cracked when determining the outcome of our national elections.
Trump in a cell while having zero contact with the outside world in any way is my fondest dream. May he suffer broke and alone for what I hope will be the rest of a lengthy and miserable remainder of his life. Any of the other perquisites of a grimy penitentiary end of life will be a well-deserved bonus in paying the American people the price for what he has done to our country.
I picture him in the orange jumpsuit while sweeping sand in Gitmo. No visitors, no internet, no McDonald’s, no Fox, Newsmax or RSBN. The heat and humidity would be similar to MAGAstan and he wouldn’t have the need for hairspray as you get a nice shave on intake. For company we could put Rudy, Eastman, Meadows, Lindell, Stone, Bannon and Tucker in his cell block.
I wish the New York Times stop bringing up this God Damn Biden’s age issue. Why not Trumps anti democracy issue and his mental condition. I saw Senator Romney saying he won’t vote for Trump but he agrees with his policies and ran a better administration. WTF!!!! All Trump did was sign a tax cut, criminalize immigrants, tried to have the military attack peaceful and lawful demonstrations and antagonize allies, completely miss the boat on Covid, and destroyed potential agreements with China that hurt American. Farmers. We have enough problems with extremists and yet the less extreme moderates still chant “I agree with Trumps policies”. I ask What policies? I only see chaos, tantrums and a meanness that has never before denigrate the presidency.
Not just Senator Romney refusing to vote for Trump. Sen Susan Collins (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) have both announced they will vote for Nikki Haley. That's 3 US Senators so far.
I completely agree with you. Not only the NYT but all of the media. It’s a constant barrage of Biden’s "too old" and how trump is leading President Biden by a ten point margin as well as Nikki. Do they ever really show what trump is saying and how it will effect every one in this country and the planet? Do they ever say how much good President Biden has done? No, they keep talking about inflation…yes prices are high at the market and it is painful to go. If we had small children and were in many people’s shoes I would be more concerned about food, gas, and rent than democracy….that is way beyond what many can think about right now. How do we get the MSM to tell the masses what life will be like under trump? All the delays with the courts make me think trump will skate in all of the trials, the media is helping him to win the election.
So much to think about, thank you, Joyce for clarifying the legal issues ahead. What stands out for me is the comment from Justice Ginsburg. She was a fab justice, and earned my respect right up until she didn’t retire to allow President Obama to appoint a new justice. Hubris? Not sure what her motive was, but because she didn’t retire at over 80 years old, a cancer survivor, we now have a Court full of right wingers. Had she retired during Obama, we’d have one less maniac justice.
Don't forget, while Mitch McConnell is still orchestrating Republican Senate votes, he finds a way to delay the vote for a SC Justice until there is a Republican president.
It is helpful not to begin any more potential disinformation regarding an extremely qualified justice at any time. Aren’t we going thru enough disinformation in this election cycle?
Oh. Dear Man. There is a physiologic rule that cannot be overcome: Once you have symptoms of organ failure from chronic disease, you are already operating at a smaller, remaining margin. You can’t fix what is already dead/gone/irreparably damaged. Ask any smoker with COPD. There are no magic pills; not everyone is elegible for kidney transplantations, and such. I don’t know her medical history, but diabetes is a killer. Chronic diseases that attack the whole body are killers: Autoimmune and it’s flip side, Cancer. There is some irony to it all, and it has to do with using immune cell biology . . . Including stem cells.
Readers, I would greatly appreciate any suggestions you have to make this letter clearer and more to the point. My plan is to have this letter printed as a FOUR FOOT WIDE x SIX FOOT TALL vinyl banner and mail it to the Supreme Court.
DRAFT (still proofreading)
March 4, 2024
To All Justices of the Supreme Court
The Supreme Court of the United States of America
1 First Street, N.E.
Washington, DC 20543
Dear Supreme Court Justices,
In America, No. One. Is. Above. The. Law. No One. I firmly believe that one’s status should not influence whether a person should be brought to justice, or not. If a crime is committed by the CEO of a company, that CEO should be brought to justice. The same would apply if a low-level employee of that company committed a crime. The principle of “no one is above the law” should – MUST - equally apply to those who serve in elected or appointed positions..... and to all (staff) who serve those who are in elected or appointed positions. A crime is a crime, regardless of who commits the crime. No one, and I mean “NO ONE” should be given a pass.... for any reason. FOR ANY REASON. Commit a crime, pay for it. I am a __-year-old citizen of the United States of America. With avid interest, I’ve been following the investigations and hearings about the disgusting, unconscionable, criminal riot that took place at our Capital on January 6th, 2021 and about former President Trump’s involvement in trying to overturn the free and fair elections that ousted him from the White House. Based on what I’ve read and studied, former President Trump committed crimes against the American People. In former President Trump’s case, he has been indicated four times – each time by a jury of his peers – for committing crimes against the America People. We have no Kings or Queens in America. Everyone – EVERYONE - is subject to being brought to justice, no matter what a person’s status is, no matter what a person’s earnings or net worth are, no matter what a person’s current position is, no matter what a person’s former position was, no matter what a person’s level of education is, no matter where a person lives, no matter what a person’s race is, no matter what a person’s religious beliefs are, and the fact that a person is running for election to the highest office in America should have no bearing, absolutely no bearing at all, on whether or not a person is brought to justice. U.S. citizens are privileged to live in a democratic republic. That said, that privilege can only continue if we guard against threats to our country and our constitution and take action when crimes are committed. In the case you’ve agreed to hear, former President Trump claims that he is immune – above the law – for any and all illegal actions he took while he was, and after he was, President of the United States of America. No person should be immune from criminal actions. NO PERSON SHOULD BE IMMUNE FROM CRIMES COMMITTED. YOU MUST NOT GRANT TRUMP IMMUNITY. YOU MUST NOT DECLARE THAT TRUMP IS ABOVE THE LAW. I am concerned about my children and grandchildren. If you do violate the principle that no one is above the law and grant Trump immunity from prosecution, what do I say, what am I supposed to say, to my children and grandchildren when they ask me why former President Trump was not tried for crimes he committed while he was President or after he was President? Do I tell them that former President Trump was declared by the Supreme Court of the United States of America to be immune from prosecution? Do I tell them that the Supreme Court of the United States of America decided that he was, like no other American is, above the law? What sense would either of those answers make, considering the principle in America that “NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW”? Should I tell my children and grandchildren that the principle of NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW is actually “NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW except for a former President”? Do I tell them that the Supreme Court of the United States of America made its decision based on politics and political favors rather than on the Constitution of the United States of America? If you do declare that Trump has immunity from crimes he committed against the American People, think about that in the context of how you would answer your own childrens’ or grandchildrens’ questions to you about why former President Trump was never brought to justice. And, finally, I find it to be despicable and disgraceful that the Supreme Court of my country is dragging its feet on the issue of Trump being immune or not being immune from prosecution. All of you no damn well that if Trump does not to go trial before the upcoming presidential election, Trump will, on his very first day in office, fire the Attorney General of the United States, fire the Special Prosecutor, ending, completely, all prosecutions against him. Therefore, you must not only declare Trump to be not immune from prosecution, you must do everything in your power to ensure that Trump goes to trial before the upcoming elections. If you do not, the American People will hold each of you personally accountable for the biggest crime ever committed against the American People. Respectfully yours,
Joel, just an opinion here, when my kids were younger, I would go into a long diatribe. I noticed that they’d tune me out. Maybe your banner (which is a great idea) should be kept short and sweet and to the point. Example: Donald J Trump is incapable of being president because: 1) He can’t remember his wife’s name. 2) He is a convicted rapist. 3) He has defrauded the state of New York. 4) He has lied about being a billionaire. 5) He caused an insurrection. 6) He caused election interference. 7) He stole classified documents. Again, just spell it out, plain & simple and sign it: We Are In It Together! If you need $$ to get this done, I will be more than happy to contribute.
Short and sweet, right! Its amazing that those 7 points dont cover ALL of what this orange jerk is guilty of, but youre right - when you consider the current "state"(?) of the American public's mindset - it has to be short.
Let me know if you need help. I have a large printer 20 inches wide by 100 feet if needed we could roll it up put it in a tube and then a box and ship it to Roberts because I don’t trust the other Republicans and I would be happy to put the bill for all of it, that’s how true patriots role.
Mike, I like the teamwork concept. Hopefully, y'all can make it happen! It will be an interesting project. Looking forward to seeing the real thing!
I agree with not trusting the other Republicans. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them! When it's ready to be shipped, make sure to get the return receipt part included in the process, so you know for sure that Roberts got it.
If he shares it with SCOTUS, after they've all read it, there can be no excuse for not doing the job they're paid to do.
Send it back to the circuit. They already decided one less thing off your docket and they all agreed. That’s what they should do. That’s why we have the circuit courts.
Your post can leave no doubt in anyone's mind --- especially POTUS members --- that "We the People" are fed up with their sickening favoritism and their refusal to do the right thing,
If you could come up with a shorter version, why not send it to the editors of all the major newspapers, both paper and online versions? Or, if you prefer the longer version, why not take out an entire page to print this version? If may fit if the font's small enough.
Just a thought. You've typed up a LOT of stuff that's been on my mind, too.
Case 1:16-cv-04642 Document 1 Filed 06/20/16 Page 1 of 9
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK --------------------------------------------------------------- JANE DOE, proceeding under a pseudonym, )
DONALD J. TRUMP and ) JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN, ) ) Defendants. )
COMPLAINT FOR RAPE, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, CRIMINAL SEXUAL ACTS, SEXUAL ABUSE, FORCIBLE TOUCHING, ASSAULT, BATTERY, INTENTIONAL AND RECKLESS INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, DURESS, FALSE IMPRISONMENT, AND DEFAMATION ______________________________________________________________________________
Plaintiff Jane Doe, proceeding under a pseudonym, brings this action against Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein,
*****
“Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties. On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B”
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….Plaintiff was unrelentingly threatened by each Defendant that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse caused to her by Defendants, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. The duress has not terminated and the fear has not subsided. The duress is an element of or inherent in the underlying causes of action complained of herein. The duress and coercion exerted by Defendants has been such as to have actually deprived Plaintiff of her freedom of will to institute suit earlier in time, and it rose to such a level that a person of reasonable firmness in Plaintiff's situation would have been unable to resist. Exhs. A and B.
11. Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. Exhs. A and …..
22. Any statute of limitations applicable to rape, sexual misconduct, criminal sexual acts, sexual abuse, forcible touching, assault, battery, intentional and reckless infliction of emotional distress, false imprisonment of a minor, if any, is tolled owing to the continuous and active duress imposed upon Plaintiff by Defendants that effectively robbed Plaintiff of her free will to commence legal action until the present time. Cullen v. Margiotta, 811 F.2d 698, 722 (2nd Cir.1987); Ross v. United States, 574 F. Supp. 536, 542 (S.D.N.Y. 1983). More particularly, Plaintiff was unrelentingly threatened by each Defendant that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse caused to her by Defendants, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. The duress has not terminated and the fear has not subsided. The duress is an element of or inherent in the underlying causes of action complained of herein. The duress and coercion exerted by Defendants has been such as to have actually deprived Plaintiff of her freedom of will to institute suit earlier in time, and it rose to such a level that a person of reasonable firmness in Plaintiff's situation would have been unable to resist. Exhs. A and B.
23. Both Defendants let Plaintiff know that each was a very wealthy, powerful man and indicated that they had the power, ability and means to carry out their threats. Indeed, Defendant Trump stated that Plaintiff shouldn’t ever say anything if she didn’t want to disappear like Maria, a 12-year-old female that was forced to be involved in the third incident……
Aside from the obvious legal shenanigans Trump, abbetted by SCOTUS, seem to be playing, he won't win election. Haley just won DC Republican primary by a wide margin. Since Trump last lost, the insurrection occurred, his rhetoric is frightening and I truly believe January 6 had a wider effect than was "polled." Jack will have a lot of pressure off then. (Afterwards, we impeach Thomas and add to SCOTUS!)
The D.C. vote could, hopefully, have a waterfall effect on Super Tuesday if people are paying attention. I hope Haley starts earning support like Biden did after South Carolina in the 2020 election cycle. Biden might have a tougher time against Haley, but she might preserve democracy?
Haley is great as long as you want to see the end of SS, Medicare, Medicaid, the Affordable Care Act, want to see the insipid clown pardoned for what he’s done to this country, and think the richest among us need a bigger tax cut.
Hi Louise L - I would not count on it. Haley can’t keep her facts straight and she has never said she would not support X45 if he wins the nomination although I am very happy how she has been setting the record straight to voters about his many atrocities.
Haley is def in for Super Tuesday. I think Trump will still win the Primaries overall, but as a Biden supporter, Biden will win. Haley would be more difficult. But! If you are a Republican, yes Nikki still has a path. ❤️
I am not a Republican, but see a silver lining in Haley's D.C. win. Hoping she can garner some clout before the Republican convention. Anything to take some air out of Trump's campaign.
I hope she doesn’t. She is financed by the evil Koch Corporations. Her win tonight was really no big deal. I think a total of R voters was 1988. Haley won by 63% to Trump’s 38%. DeSantis got 1.9%. Nothing to write home about but she did pick up 19 delegates.
According to the NYT, SCOTUS may issue its Colorado decision tomorrow at 10 am EST. It will be interesting how they twist themselves and the Constitution into a decision allowing a man who tried to overthrow the Constitution (and promises to do the same if elected) to run for President.
I gave Republicans a small pass previously, but now Trump is speaking his “truth” out loud. I am just baffled by these sheep. No offense to the 🐑 🐑.
At the State of the Union I hope Biden tells point by point what he has already accomplished. Then I hope he goes a step further stating what he was wanting to and how the Republicans won’t even listen - just a blanket no! They are truly a do-nothing party.
I’d also like to know what happened to Trump’s four hundred million liquid dollars that he claimed he had. I’m glad they aren’t giving him a “special” pass. I hope he can’t come up with the money for the bonds so appeals are off the table.
The only thing I’ve learned is patience waiting for all these delays…
I did make my brownies and took them to my friend. She isn’t budging an inch but did thank me for the brownies. I was able to talk with another neighbor who is an independent but now voting for Biden.
Joyce, thanks for the detailed account of the coming week. We know what’s going to happen and appreciate you so much.
I’m hoping at this State of the Union that Biden harkens back to 2023 when he received a standing ovation from all - 100% of the Republicans, including Mike Johnson - a then third string unknown - when he said Medicare/social security would not be touched. Make them all stand up again. It’s on video. Womp, womp…
I hope that Biden gives the most forceful and BEST speech ever, proving his strength, energy and determination to make sure Trump never, ever gets within a mile of the White House!!! And afterwards, I'd love to see a lengthy standing ovation from both sides of the aisle.
Meanwhile, it would be great to be able to TRUST that Johnson will have the "you-know-whats" to make sure that ANY member of the House will be thrown out the door if they start yelling insults, making scenes, or acting like immature brats. Last year's performance by MTG was uncalled for, so I do not look forward to a repeat this time.
Orban is coming only for that reason, is my guess. If we all of a sudden see Trump saying he can pay, then we know Putin funneled the $ to Orban who laundered it to Trump.
I had two discouraging conversations, this weekend. In one, the woman was advocating voting for Trump because of the crime rate in her neighborhood in NY03. As if the crime rate has soared, of late. (It has not. It has long been a problem with its mixed sub-neighborhoods.) And because she knew, personally, of one recent victim of such, she's magnifying that into a crime surge that justifies not just not voting for Biden, but for Trump, actively. ??
The other conversation was with a man I had taken for greater intelligence, here declining to recognize Biden's accomplishments, belittling the recent historians' comparitive presidential rankings, and referring to Trump as "despite him being possibly corrupt." I confess to getting a bit too animated, and tried to begin articulating Biden's accomplishments with inheriting a non-existing vaccination distribution plan, and was met with, that was all the result of the Trump administration!
I sensed that the guy was confident of his news sources (he did at least denigrate the NY Times, proudly, as if that entitled him to the recognition as well-informed)!
Rather than pursue the question posed about entitlement of opinions, with me then saying, different opinions, of course, but we're way beyond respecting different opinions. This is it. We either vote for Biden or we kiss Democracy goodbye. You see it otherwise? (Which I should have done.)
I instead I just concluded this was not the occasion to take it further (i.e. despite Trump being "possibly corrupt"?) and retreated from the conversation. Why? Because one's energy is limited, at least mine is. And it's best not to dissipate it unwisely. Put it to maximum constructive use. Better to focus where the result will not only result in a vote, but a comprehended-why- enthusIAStic vote, that doesn't comprise entirely of the vote, itself, but the getting up-off-the-couch and actively persuading others to also vote Biden. We already see signs of being co-opted out of our organizational thrust--saving Democracy--by the Republicans. Imagine the chutzpah! But, THAT is where our argument lies.
Sincere apologies for the rant. I step down off the soap box. Forgive me, friends.
But this is it. Put one's energy to maximum effect. Reason with the ill-informed? Or persuade people just how important the 2024 election is.
I had one friend, who I took into my home, to get her out of an abusive marriage. Now, years later, she is so pro Trump, that I don't even try to discuss the election with her. Very sad!! It isn't worth my time and energy to talk to her.
"It’s worth noting that his [tfg's] wife and her parents, as well as his son Barron, all speak Slovenian" [Joyce's remark]. Not only are they non-English speakers, but Melania was undoubtedly an immigrant and the way she got her citizenship, based on a so-called Einstein-Visa (..."an immigrant has to provide evidence of a major award or meet three of 10 criteria proving excellence in their field) is highly suspicious. I know of no award and cannot cite 3 criteria of excellence that she might have brought with her. Do you? So she would be the first on the list of people to be sent back where they came from?
Thank you Joyce, for being a light for us and for speaking clarity to drivel. I will never lose hope so long as you remind us that ‘We’re all in this together.” 💙
Don’t give up on the person you are becoming. You’re becoming a beautiful, strong, compassionate, smart, caring American for all walks of life especially when you vote blue.
Sometimes when something is right under your nose you just can’t see it. I am Australian and I have been watching, and following, America since John Kennedy was President, and I just cannot fathom how Trump has any support at all in America. In Australia, if there was a contest between Trump and an empty chair the chair would win in a landslide.
I am now retired (I’m 81) but before I retired I was a Barrister (in American parlance I was a Trial Attorney) so I spent a lot of time arguing cases before Australian Courts. Following the Civil Discourse makes me feel very doubtful about the strength of the Justice system in America. That comment is made, obviously, in the context of the various legal cases involving Trump. The court system seems to me to be working at an almost glacial pace. And there is just so much discussion about the legal system being infected (I use that word advisedly) by politics. Rulings by Courts are seen through the prism of whether the Judge was a Democrat or a Republican, when such a consideration should be monumentally irrelevant. Your Supreme Court seems to me to be seen as a political, as distinct from a legal, institution.
So far it might be said that the Courts, despite glacial slowness, have held up well. Recent decisions in New York regarding fraud, and the sexual assault case are examples of that. But the cases in the District of Columbia, Georgia, and Florida are examples of the glacial slowness I have mentioned. And the case about immunity is almost a joke in a legal sense. The only possible saving grace in relation to the immunity issue is that the Supreme Court might have decided to emphatically bury the issue once and for all, as it should be.
Civil Discourse has repeatedly, and correctly, said that Democracy is on trial in America this year. It would ordinarily be said that Democracy would be on trial in the context of voters delivering a verdict.
My view is that the survival of democracy in America in 2024 is very much in the hands of the legal system. America’s legal institutions are under immense pressure this year, certainly more so than in the last 75 years.
Today James Carville posted a raunchy, dark rant he called "SCROTUS" that can basically reflect the entire judicial system. They have agendas, and if you have enough lawyers and can buy the time, the loopholes are there. Each delay takes me into a deeper level of cynicism and disappointment.
Charles Dickens wrote “Bleak House” for a reason. Let’s find our courage in stopping Trump in his tracks at the polls on November 5. And, in the meantime, actively support voter registration and get-out-the-vote efforts in Swing states and yours.
This past weekend my girlfriend and I canvassed DEMs houses to get out the vote. I felt hopeful talking to people. So turn your anger into activism!
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Feels great, doesn't? And it doesn't take much effort, either. Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate it, and I'm not the only one!
YESS!!!
Me . . . And my dodgy knee. I’m sorry to say, it’s not an option . . .
Thanks for the boost. Joyce's informative posts and messages from motivators are a big help.
Bonnie, Please note that when I started drafting a response, no one else had yet replied. Because I was interrupted, by the time I posted, I saw that Tom had posted a similar reply. My choice either was to delete or to retain my post, and I chose the latter, which follows:
Prior to the High Court handing down its decision to defer hearing Trump’s immunity case until late April while also staying the pause on all J6 pre-trial proceedings, I had posted that if the Court were to act expeditiously relative to Trump’s claims of absolute immunity, we could presume the Courts, although weakened, still held. No longer is there any doubt that a presumptive presidential nominee eager to consolidate power wherein the rule of law could be subjugated to an individual has succeeded in absorbing both the Congress and the judiciary.
Accordingly, for anyone still watching and waiting to see what the Court will do next, I ask, “What are you waiting for?” My point, in the words of an old American gospel song, is that “We are the ones that we’ve been waiting for.” Instead of expecting someone else to carry the weight of this most terrifying moment in our nation’s history, we will have to do it for ourselves. We will train ourselves, acquire the knowledge and strength to keep on until we prevail.
You are right of course, but everyone has full lives and I think the power elite are hoping we will all fatigue and surrender. It is a daunting task to push for this all to be fixed, but inevitably when tasks seem most difficult is often when they are most important.
Bonnie, Thank you for writing. Upon reading your reply, the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis instantaneously came to mind. Brandeis once wrote, “Most of the things worth doing in this world had been declared impossible before they were done.”
Gotta hit LIKE again, Barb. Not much more that I can add tonght.
I am so exhausted! (I read & watch far too much news.) But that will not stop me from working towards ensuring democracy prevails.
Those of us with time and passion need to remind others that this, it might be the last time.
Amen sister/bro. I have started to ignore anything that is headlined Supreme Court, Florida, or Fulton County.
It is refreshing to stay away. Following it day by day is a killer and just drives up your BP. Go on YouTube watch cute videos and see what life really matters. Please always remember. this country fought a revolution.a civil war two Wars and have come out of so many political scandals that are too numerous to count.
If I may I would like to quote one of my favorite songs. "America, our Heritage"
We sang this in our Catholic high school during the Bay of Pigs scare.
"Stout hearts and True hold fast what is ours,
God give us courage Through darkest hours,
God give us strength and guide with Thy hand
America our heritage our homeland."
Even if you don't believe in God, believe in our country.
Contribute what you can. There are many of us, and no one can do it alone. Every effort counts, and is appreciated. Truly.
The power elite?
"no longer is there any doubt".... We have never seen the likes of Trump and the defection away from the rule of law, decency, what and who we thought we are, to this pervasive low.
I think many have not woken up even yet or have their mouths stuck open in disbelief or just shrugging "this too will pass". They don't know the meaning of democracy as an active process- perhaps they think our forefathers gave us this as a gift, not a condition, an experiment actually, that has to have participants. In the meantime while some, perhaps many of us were asleep, or getting and spending, those that saw and see in Trump an opportunity, have been working away. We might wake up enough when it's too late, when the water level has reached our door.
“…..has succeeded in absorbing both the Congress and the judiciary.” Or perhaps the Congress and judiciary have absorbed him in order to further their dirty work….
Sure thing Barbara; Keep on keeping on…. It’s our last hope…..
I await Biden’s win in November to silence the noise.
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The noise will not stop. We must not stop defending democracy, either. It is a participation type of government. We need to be sure the youth of our country understands that they must participate, too.
And I look forward to President Biden winning this Nov., also.
I sure hope so. I have to say I have a bad feeling about it. It very much feels like a hostile takeover this time. 2016 gave them a taste. 2020 showed them what they did right and what they did wrong. I am afraid 2024 they will not make the same mistakes as 2022, and they have the judiciary squarely in their court this time. In 2020, we were fresh off a horrible 4 years of Trump plus his soft coup attempt. Proved too much to overcome for the wingnuts. This time around, memories are short, young folks are disappointed in many ways (however unjustifiable), and so are people of color (again unjustifiable). Trump is winning big time in court (except New York), with the huge help of SCOTUS. Yep - got a bad feeling. I want to be wrong.
Not what I'd call raunchy as much as shooting from below and more to the center of the hip.
Mr Carville is both aggravated and distraught with what has become the MO of a once, albeit long ago, more honest political organization. The real shame is that today's living skeleton of that party is saddling our children with both monstrous financial obligations and deathly political violence, an indebtedness that the rank and file of both political parties will be paying off throughout their lives.
The nominal Catholics of our Supreme Court should look to the tenets of their purported faith for guidance instead of turning to our nation's political Judas.
I think a problem has been that the Catholic justices use their faith for guidance instead of the law.
While an admirable ornament on the fireplace mantle, religious faith has no place in our judicial system and every one of our "less than supreme" court justices know this.
"State's Rights" is a joke that is only cracked when determining the outcome of our national elections.
I worked in state level courts for over a decade. I am extremely cynical.
Trump in a cell while having zero contact with the outside world in any way is my fondest dream. May he suffer broke and alone for what I hope will be the rest of a lengthy and miserable remainder of his life. Any of the other perquisites of a grimy penitentiary end of life will be a well-deserved bonus in paying the American people the price for what he has done to our country.
Harsh, but fair.
You're not the only person who looks forward to the day when the defendant's clothing matches his complexion.
I would settle for AG Leticia James to confiscate his airplane! That would be #1 in my book.
A real benefit in combating climate change, as much as he flies the damn thing around.
I picture him in the orange jumpsuit while sweeping sand in Gitmo. No visitors, no internet, no McDonald’s, no Fox, Newsmax or RSBN. The heat and humidity would be similar to MAGAstan and he wouldn’t have the need for hairspray as you get a nice shave on intake. For company we could put Rudy, Eastman, Meadows, Lindell, Stone, Bannon and Tucker in his cell block.
Feed him a vegetarian diet, and see if he can find a nutritionist who will swear it'a an 8th amendment violation.
Amen!
Thanks, Bonnie!!
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I would up that penance to permanent exile in an uncomfortable jail cell without the possibility of stepping foot on American soil ever again.
A series I read is set in the future, and they have prisons “off planet.” Can’t think of a more deserving person.
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I wish the New York Times stop bringing up this God Damn Biden’s age issue. Why not Trumps anti democracy issue and his mental condition. I saw Senator Romney saying he won’t vote for Trump but he agrees with his policies and ran a better administration. WTF!!!! All Trump did was sign a tax cut, criminalize immigrants, tried to have the military attack peaceful and lawful demonstrations and antagonize allies, completely miss the boat on Covid, and destroyed potential agreements with China that hurt American. Farmers. We have enough problems with extremists and yet the less extreme moderates still chant “I agree with Trumps policies”. I ask What policies? I only see chaos, tantrums and a meanness that has never before denigrate the presidency.
All I can think about Romney is corporations are people, my friends.
And I spent way too much time in Utah to not understand how wicked Mormonism is.
Mormons make up 6% of the AZ population and about one third of our legislature.
Beneath the Banner of Heaven is an eye opener for those not familiar with it.
The clannish ness is extreme. Sad that good people are caught up in its fraud.
Not just Senator Romney refusing to vote for Trump. Sen Susan Collins (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) have both announced they will vote for Nikki Haley. That's 3 US Senators so far.
Pardon my language. I have been reading Wittgenstein and I am not sure if what I said can be said!
The NYTimes= Kompromat. Dominionists are running the show.
I completely agree with you. Not only the NYT but all of the media. It’s a constant barrage of Biden’s "too old" and how trump is leading President Biden by a ten point margin as well as Nikki. Do they ever really show what trump is saying and how it will effect every one in this country and the planet? Do they ever say how much good President Biden has done? No, they keep talking about inflation…yes prices are high at the market and it is painful to go. If we had small children and were in many people’s shoes I would be more concerned about food, gas, and rent than democracy….that is way beyond what many can think about right now. How do we get the MSM to tell the masses what life will be like under trump? All the delays with the courts make me think trump will skate in all of the trials, the media is helping him to win the election.
So much to think about, thank you, Joyce for clarifying the legal issues ahead. What stands out for me is the comment from Justice Ginsburg. She was a fab justice, and earned my respect right up until she didn’t retire to allow President Obama to appoint a new justice. Hubris? Not sure what her motive was, but because she didn’t retire at over 80 years old, a cancer survivor, we now have a Court full of right wingers. Had she retired during Obama, we’d have one less maniac justice.
Don't forget, while Mitch McConnell is still orchestrating Republican Senate votes, he finds a way to delay the vote for a SC Justice until there is a Republican president.
He’s the minority leader. No say about what comes before the Senate, that’s Schumer’s job
You are right, except the R's have perfected sabotage by obstruction, even with a minority.
Won’t he be surprised when the dems win both Houses.
Some are saying Justice Sotomayor should retire during this administration.
It is helpful not to begin any more potential disinformation regarding an extremely qualified justice at any time. Aren’t we going thru enough disinformation in this election cycle?
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Hi ZeusEB - amen to that one.
She’s 69, a far cry from Ginsberg’s 87, is she ill?
I do not know, but she may be experiencing complications of Type I diabetes. Really just a guess on my part.
She’s not been hospitalized, which would have been reported, so it seems that her T1D is currently managed.
Agree. And Diabetes is a killer . .. Kidneys, eyes, chronic wounds, coronary heart disease and atherosclerosis.
Yes, but .... it's treatable. Better meds every day.
Oh. Dear Man. There is a physiologic rule that cannot be overcome: Once you have symptoms of organ failure from chronic disease, you are already operating at a smaller, remaining margin. You can’t fix what is already dead/gone/irreparably damaged. Ask any smoker with COPD. There are no magic pills; not everyone is elegible for kidney transplantations, and such. I don’t know her medical history, but diabetes is a killer. Chronic diseases that attack the whole body are killers: Autoimmune and it’s flip side, Cancer. There is some irony to it all, and it has to do with using immune cell biology . . . Including stem cells.
That is totally her call.
Maybe if the new slate in '25 is President, Senate, and House=Democratic, she can take the risk, but she does appear frail these days.
Thanks Professor. Vote. Vote Blue! Vote freedom and fairness. Vote liberty. Vote Joe and the team. Vote out the screaming meanies. ☯️☮️❤️🫵🏻all.
Bless you, Mike. I needed to hear that from someone else.
Readers, I would greatly appreciate any suggestions you have to make this letter clearer and more to the point. My plan is to have this letter printed as a FOUR FOOT WIDE x SIX FOOT TALL vinyl banner and mail it to the Supreme Court.
DRAFT (still proofreading)
March 4, 2024
To All Justices of the Supreme Court
The Supreme Court of the United States of America
1 First Street, N.E.
Washington, DC 20543
Dear Supreme Court Justices,
In America, No. One. Is. Above. The. Law. No One. I firmly believe that one’s status should not influence whether a person should be brought to justice, or not. If a crime is committed by the CEO of a company, that CEO should be brought to justice. The same would apply if a low-level employee of that company committed a crime. The principle of “no one is above the law” should – MUST - equally apply to those who serve in elected or appointed positions..... and to all (staff) who serve those who are in elected or appointed positions. A crime is a crime, regardless of who commits the crime. No one, and I mean “NO ONE” should be given a pass.... for any reason. FOR ANY REASON. Commit a crime, pay for it. I am a __-year-old citizen of the United States of America. With avid interest, I’ve been following the investigations and hearings about the disgusting, unconscionable, criminal riot that took place at our Capital on January 6th, 2021 and about former President Trump’s involvement in trying to overturn the free and fair elections that ousted him from the White House. Based on what I’ve read and studied, former President Trump committed crimes against the American People. In former President Trump’s case, he has been indicated four times – each time by a jury of his peers – for committing crimes against the America People. We have no Kings or Queens in America. Everyone – EVERYONE - is subject to being brought to justice, no matter what a person’s status is, no matter what a person’s earnings or net worth are, no matter what a person’s current position is, no matter what a person’s former position was, no matter what a person’s level of education is, no matter where a person lives, no matter what a person’s race is, no matter what a person’s religious beliefs are, and the fact that a person is running for election to the highest office in America should have no bearing, absolutely no bearing at all, on whether or not a person is brought to justice. U.S. citizens are privileged to live in a democratic republic. That said, that privilege can only continue if we guard against threats to our country and our constitution and take action when crimes are committed. In the case you’ve agreed to hear, former President Trump claims that he is immune – above the law – for any and all illegal actions he took while he was, and after he was, President of the United States of America. No person should be immune from criminal actions. NO PERSON SHOULD BE IMMUNE FROM CRIMES COMMITTED. YOU MUST NOT GRANT TRUMP IMMUNITY. YOU MUST NOT DECLARE THAT TRUMP IS ABOVE THE LAW. I am concerned about my children and grandchildren. If you do violate the principle that no one is above the law and grant Trump immunity from prosecution, what do I say, what am I supposed to say, to my children and grandchildren when they ask me why former President Trump was not tried for crimes he committed while he was President or after he was President? Do I tell them that former President Trump was declared by the Supreme Court of the United States of America to be immune from prosecution? Do I tell them that the Supreme Court of the United States of America decided that he was, like no other American is, above the law? What sense would either of those answers make, considering the principle in America that “NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW”? Should I tell my children and grandchildren that the principle of NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW is actually “NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW except for a former President”? Do I tell them that the Supreme Court of the United States of America made its decision based on politics and political favors rather than on the Constitution of the United States of America? If you do declare that Trump has immunity from crimes he committed against the American People, think about that in the context of how you would answer your own childrens’ or grandchildrens’ questions to you about why former President Trump was never brought to justice. And, finally, I find it to be despicable and disgraceful that the Supreme Court of my country is dragging its feet on the issue of Trump being immune or not being immune from prosecution. All of you no damn well that if Trump does not to go trial before the upcoming presidential election, Trump will, on his very first day in office, fire the Attorney General of the United States, fire the Special Prosecutor, ending, completely, all prosecutions against him. Therefore, you must not only declare Trump to be not immune from prosecution, you must do everything in your power to ensure that Trump goes to trial before the upcoming elections. If you do not, the American People will hold each of you personally accountable for the biggest crime ever committed against the American People. Respectfully yours,
Indicted 4 times, not "indicated." (It must be auto-correct! )Also, "All of you know, not "no," I think it needn't be this long.
Thank you
Joel, just an opinion here, when my kids were younger, I would go into a long diatribe. I noticed that they’d tune me out. Maybe your banner (which is a great idea) should be kept short and sweet and to the point. Example: Donald J Trump is incapable of being president because: 1) He can’t remember his wife’s name. 2) He is a convicted rapist. 3) He has defrauded the state of New York. 4) He has lied about being a billionaire. 5) He caused an insurrection. 6) He caused election interference. 7) He stole classified documents. Again, just spell it out, plain & simple and sign it: We Are In It Together! If you need $$ to get this done, I will be more than happy to contribute.
Short and sweet, right! Its amazing that those 7 points dont cover ALL of what this orange jerk is guilty of, but youre right - when you consider the current "state"(?) of the American public's mindset - it has to be short.
Not "bigly" but short!
Let me know if you need help. I have a large printer 20 inches wide by 100 feet if needed we could roll it up put it in a tube and then a box and ship it to Roberts because I don’t trust the other Republicans and I would be happy to put the bill for all of it, that’s how true patriots role.
Mike, I like the teamwork concept. Hopefully, y'all can make it happen! It will be an interesting project. Looking forward to seeing the real thing!
I agree with not trusting the other Republicans. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them! When it's ready to be shipped, make sure to get the return receipt part included in the process, so you know for sure that Roberts got it.
If he shares it with SCOTUS, after they've all read it, there can be no excuse for not doing the job they're paid to do.
Love your ardor.
Short version?
Maybe “Justice delayed is justice desired”.
Send it back to the circuit. They already decided one less thing off your docket and they all agreed. That’s what they should do. That’s why we have the circuit courts.
Your post can leave no doubt in anyone's mind --- especially POTUS members --- that "We the People" are fed up with their sickening favoritism and their refusal to do the right thing,
If you could come up with a shorter version, why not send it to the editors of all the major newspapers, both paper and online versions? Or, if you prefer the longer version, why not take out an entire page to print this version? If may fit if the font's small enough.
Just a thought. You've typed up a LOT of stuff that's been on my mind, too.
Do it, Joel!
And I do hope now that you've shared that with us you feel just a mite better. Keep the faith. Support one another as we fight.
Long but impressive. I would add that if 45 becomes 47 SCOTUS would become irrelevant too. ☮️☮️☮️
Thank you for taking the time to write this wonderful letter!!!!!!!!
Amen brother!
Good work. Run it through a final edit. The gist is there with an appropriate tone of disgust and fury.
Let’s remind the so-called Christians of the bench EXACTLY what they are enabling:
Dawna
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DONALD TRUMP IS A RAPIST.
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Case 1:16-cv-04642 Document 1 Filed 06/20/16 Page 1 of 9
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK --------------------------------------------------------------- JANE DOE, proceeding under a pseudonym, )
DONALD J. TRUMP and ) JEFFREY E. EPSTEIN, ) ) Defendants. )
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JURY TRIAL DEMANDED
COMPLAINT FOR RAPE, SEXUAL MISCONDUCT, CRIMINAL SEXUAL ACTS, SEXUAL ABUSE, FORCIBLE TOUCHING, ASSAULT, BATTERY, INTENTIONAL AND RECKLESS INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, DURESS, FALSE IMPRISONMENT, AND DEFAMATION ______________________________________________________________________________
Plaintiff Jane Doe, proceeding under a pseudonym, brings this action against Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein,
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“Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties. On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and B”
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….Plaintiff was unrelentingly threatened by each Defendant that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse caused to her by Defendants, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. The duress has not terminated and the fear has not subsided. The duress is an element of or inherent in the underlying causes of action complained of herein. The duress and coercion exerted by Defendants has been such as to have actually deprived Plaintiff of her freedom of will to institute suit earlier in time, and it rose to such a level that a person of reasonable firmness in Plaintiff's situation would have been unable to resist. Exhs. A and B.
11. Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. Exhs. A and …..
22. Any statute of limitations applicable to rape, sexual misconduct, criminal sexual acts, sexual abuse, forcible touching, assault, battery, intentional and reckless infliction of emotional distress, false imprisonment of a minor, if any, is tolled owing to the continuous and active duress imposed upon Plaintiff by Defendants that effectively robbed Plaintiff of her free will to commence legal action until the present time. Cullen v. Margiotta, 811 F.2d 698, 722 (2nd Cir.1987); Ross v. United States, 574 F. Supp. 536, 542 (S.D.N.Y. 1983). More particularly, Plaintiff was unrelentingly threatened by each Defendant that, were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse caused to her by Defendants, Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. The duress has not terminated and the fear has not subsided. The duress is an element of or inherent in the underlying causes of action complained of herein. The duress and coercion exerted by Defendants has been such as to have actually deprived Plaintiff of her freedom of will to institute suit earlier in time, and it rose to such a level that a person of reasonable firmness in Plaintiff's situation would have been unable to resist. Exhs. A and B.
23. Both Defendants let Plaintiff know that each was a very wealthy, powerful man and indicated that they had the power, ability and means to carry out their threats. Indeed, Defendant Trump stated that Plaintiff shouldn’t ever say anything if she didn’t want to disappear like Maria, a 12-year-old female that was forced to be involved in the third incident……
Dawna
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DONALD TRUMP IS A RAPIST.
DONALD TRUMP IS A RAPIST.
DONALD TRUMP IS A RAPIST.
OF COURSE JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS MURDERED IN PRISON.
DONALD TRUMP IS A RAPIST.
What is the status of this case?
All of tRump cases end up in limbo someplace, don’t they? He’s getting away with treason and espionage as we write.
How about double page spreads in newspapers, the kind you find at the checkout counter.
But …. But….the Thomas Clarence & friends have already demonstrated they ARE above the law.
Respectfully, you have a typo, probably the word processor. "no" instead of "know" 6th line from end.
Thank you
Your head and heart are in the right position. But it's far too long. We can work on "short and on-point." Carry on.
Aside from the obvious legal shenanigans Trump, abbetted by SCOTUS, seem to be playing, he won't win election. Haley just won DC Republican primary by a wide margin. Since Trump last lost, the insurrection occurred, his rhetoric is frightening and I truly believe January 6 had a wider effect than was "polled." Jack will have a lot of pressure off then. (Afterwards, we impeach Thomas and add to SCOTUS!)
Heather True. Haley got 63,% of small.number of R's DC but all 19 Delegates.
Haley has been pulling 40% - and 20% of those have said they will *never* vote for Trump. Some will vote for Biden.
Or not vote at all
Yay Haley!
The D.C. vote could, hopefully, have a waterfall effect on Super Tuesday if people are paying attention. I hope Haley starts earning support like Biden did after South Carolina in the 2020 election cycle. Biden might have a tougher time against Haley, but she might preserve democracy?
Nikki Haley is no friend to women.
Haley is great as long as you want to see the end of SS, Medicare, Medicaid, the Affordable Care Act, want to see the insipid clown pardoned for what he’s done to this country, and think the richest among us need a bigger tax cut.
Neither is Trump.
I wouldn’t count on it. A month ago she said she’d pardon TFG.
Yes, she said that and she would do it. She's just Trump light
And let’s not forget that she said we are not a racist country!!
Ugh.
Also, if Haley wins the primary (unlikely, I know), it would dampen the anger and insanity of the MAGAs when Biden-Harris win.
Oh, and agree, Haley would preserve democracy. No fear there.
Hi Louise L - I would not count on it. Haley can’t keep her facts straight and she has never said she would not support X45 if he wins the nomination although I am very happy how she has been setting the record straight to voters about his many atrocities.
Haley is def in for Super Tuesday. I think Trump will still win the Primaries overall, but as a Biden supporter, Biden will win. Haley would be more difficult. But! If you are a Republican, yes Nikki still has a path. ❤️
I am not a Republican, but see a silver lining in Haley's D.C. win. Hoping she can garner some clout before the Republican convention. Anything to take some air out of Trump's campaign.
I hope she doesn’t. She is financed by the evil Koch Corporations. Her win tonight was really no big deal. I think a total of R voters was 1988. Haley won by 63% to Trump’s 38%. DeSantis got 1.9%. Nothing to write home about but she did pick up 19 delegates.
According to the NYT, SCOTUS may issue its Colorado decision tomorrow at 10 am EST. It will be interesting how they twist themselves and the Constitution into a decision allowing a man who tried to overthrow the Constitution (and promises to do the same if elected) to run for President.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/03/us/supreme-court-trump.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb
I gave Republicans a small pass previously, but now Trump is speaking his “truth” out loud. I am just baffled by these sheep. No offense to the 🐑 🐑.
At the State of the Union I hope Biden tells point by point what he has already accomplished. Then I hope he goes a step further stating what he was wanting to and how the Republicans won’t even listen - just a blanket no! They are truly a do-nothing party.
I’d also like to know what happened to Trump’s four hundred million liquid dollars that he claimed he had. I’m glad they aren’t giving him a “special” pass. I hope he can’t come up with the money for the bonds so appeals are off the table.
The only thing I’ve learned is patience waiting for all these delays…
I did make my brownies and took them to my friend. She isn’t budging an inch but did thank me for the brownies. I was able to talk with another neighbor who is an independent but now voting for Biden.
Joyce, thanks for the detailed account of the coming week. We know what’s going to happen and appreciate you so much.
I’m hoping at this State of the Union that Biden harkens back to 2023 when he received a standing ovation from all - 100% of the Republicans, including Mike Johnson - a then third string unknown - when he said Medicare/social security would not be touched. Make them all stand up again. It’s on video. Womp, womp…
I hope that Biden gives the most forceful and BEST speech ever, proving his strength, energy and determination to make sure Trump never, ever gets within a mile of the White House!!! And afterwards, I'd love to see a lengthy standing ovation from both sides of the aisle.
Meanwhile, it would be great to be able to TRUST that Johnson will have the "you-know-whats" to make sure that ANY member of the House will be thrown out the door if they start yelling insults, making scenes, or acting like immature brats. Last year's performance by MTG was uncalled for, so I do not look forward to a repeat this time.
If she or Bobo act up again, I hope spit-wads land on them!
I heard that Victor Orban was to visit Trump at Mar A Lago…. Could that be he will ask for money to pay his judgements????
Orban is coming only for that reason, is my guess. If we all of a sudden see Trump saying he can pay, then we know Putin funneled the $ to Orban who laundered it to Trump.
Bearer Bonds.
The cynicism of the Disgraced Roberts Court knows no bounds.
I had two discouraging conversations, this weekend. In one, the woman was advocating voting for Trump because of the crime rate in her neighborhood in NY03. As if the crime rate has soared, of late. (It has not. It has long been a problem with its mixed sub-neighborhoods.) And because she knew, personally, of one recent victim of such, she's magnifying that into a crime surge that justifies not just not voting for Biden, but for Trump, actively. ??
The other conversation was with a man I had taken for greater intelligence, here declining to recognize Biden's accomplishments, belittling the recent historians' comparitive presidential rankings, and referring to Trump as "despite him being possibly corrupt." I confess to getting a bit too animated, and tried to begin articulating Biden's accomplishments with inheriting a non-existing vaccination distribution plan, and was met with, that was all the result of the Trump administration!
I sensed that the guy was confident of his news sources (he did at least denigrate the NY Times, proudly, as if that entitled him to the recognition as well-informed)!
Rather than pursue the question posed about entitlement of opinions, with me then saying, different opinions, of course, but we're way beyond respecting different opinions. This is it. We either vote for Biden or we kiss Democracy goodbye. You see it otherwise? (Which I should have done.)
I instead I just concluded this was not the occasion to take it further (i.e. despite Trump being "possibly corrupt"?) and retreated from the conversation. Why? Because one's energy is limited, at least mine is. And it's best not to dissipate it unwisely. Put it to maximum constructive use. Better to focus where the result will not only result in a vote, but a comprehended-why- enthusIAStic vote, that doesn't comprise entirely of the vote, itself, but the getting up-off-the-couch and actively persuading others to also vote Biden. We already see signs of being co-opted out of our organizational thrust--saving Democracy--by the Republicans. Imagine the chutzpah! But, THAT is where our argument lies.
Sincere apologies for the rant. I step down off the soap box. Forgive me, friends.
But this is it. Put one's energy to maximum effect. Reason with the ill-informed? Or persuade people just how important the 2024 election is.
Democracy. It's now. Or never.
I had one friend, who I took into my home, to get her out of an abusive marriage. Now, years later, she is so pro Trump, that I don't even try to discuss the election with her. Very sad!! It isn't worth my time and energy to talk to her.
Unfortunately, LesG, there are those who cannot listen to reason. I give you credit for trying.
"It’s worth noting that his [tfg's] wife and her parents, as well as his son Barron, all speak Slovenian" [Joyce's remark]. Not only are they non-English speakers, but Melania was undoubtedly an immigrant and the way she got her citizenship, based on a so-called Einstein-Visa (..."an immigrant has to provide evidence of a major award or meet three of 10 criteria proving excellence in their field) is highly suspicious. I know of no award and cannot cite 3 criteria of excellence that she might have brought with her. Do you? So she would be the first on the list of people to be sent back where they came from?
Payoffs work.
Thank you Joyce, for being a light for us and for speaking clarity to drivel. I will never lose hope so long as you remind us that ‘We’re all in this together.” 💙
Don’t give up on the person you are becoming. You’re becoming a beautiful, strong, compassionate, smart, caring American for all walks of life especially when you vote blue.
Sometimes when something is right under your nose you just can’t see it. I am Australian and I have been watching, and following, America since John Kennedy was President, and I just cannot fathom how Trump has any support at all in America. In Australia, if there was a contest between Trump and an empty chair the chair would win in a landslide.
I am now retired (I’m 81) but before I retired I was a Barrister (in American parlance I was a Trial Attorney) so I spent a lot of time arguing cases before Australian Courts. Following the Civil Discourse makes me feel very doubtful about the strength of the Justice system in America. That comment is made, obviously, in the context of the various legal cases involving Trump. The court system seems to me to be working at an almost glacial pace. And there is just so much discussion about the legal system being infected (I use that word advisedly) by politics. Rulings by Courts are seen through the prism of whether the Judge was a Democrat or a Republican, when such a consideration should be monumentally irrelevant. Your Supreme Court seems to me to be seen as a political, as distinct from a legal, institution.
So far it might be said that the Courts, despite glacial slowness, have held up well. Recent decisions in New York regarding fraud, and the sexual assault case are examples of that. But the cases in the District of Columbia, Georgia, and Florida are examples of the glacial slowness I have mentioned. And the case about immunity is almost a joke in a legal sense. The only possible saving grace in relation to the immunity issue is that the Supreme Court might have decided to emphatically bury the issue once and for all, as it should be.
Civil Discourse has repeatedly, and correctly, said that Democracy is on trial in America this year. It would ordinarily be said that Democracy would be on trial in the context of voters delivering a verdict.
My view is that the survival of democracy in America in 2024 is very much in the hands of the legal system. America’s legal institutions are under immense pressure this year, certainly more so than in the last 75 years.
And there are postcards. Check out Activate America for info.