Possibly a silly question: Who gives a flying ---- what Cannon says at this point? Why does anyone give her "orders" the slightest attention? She's out of the game.
And forgive me if I repeat myself -- can't remember where I've aired this view recently. There had better be several digital copies of the full, unredacted report safely stashed around the world, to be released at the given signal. If the various malevolent and corrupt forces at play succeed in preventing the report's release, let the signal ring out, let the truth see the light of day, and let the chips fall where they may.
Sure, including Woodward on the distro would be OK. But I'd start with ProPublica, The Guardian, Meidas Touch, maybe Talking Points Memo, and <add your favorite truth-telling, democracy-defending independent information outlet here>. I wouldn't even waste the bandwidth sending copies to NYT and WaPo and LAT.
Let the spirit of Daniel Ellsberg roam. It's nigh time.
I also don't understand why people are taking her current orders seriously when she does not have jurisdiction. She should have been clapped back by the 11th Circuit.
Exactly. Why is Garland even pretending to listen to her. According to her timetable, then as I type this Trump has quite a few hrs to file appeals. Garland needs to grow a spine. And other bits.
Marlo, Cannon is not going to be disbarred or kicked off the bench or anything else because she is a good little minion and will rule exactly what Trump, who nominated her wants her to do and gladly. She is a puppet who will do the bidding of Trump and his oligarchic friends. So anti-American!
Judge Cannon's own orders in January 2025 provided further proof that Judge Cannon is corruptly abusing her position and powers and she is acting like a mere con man to deceive the American public. In footnote 2 to her January 13 order, Judge Cannon very publicly threatened DOJ attorneys with disciplinary action for potential lack of "candor' with respect to their "representations made to this Court." Yet, Judge Cannon said nothing to Trump's attorneys about their obvious (and irrefutable) lack of candor.
An actual future prosecution of Trump's accomplices by the DOJ under Trump's influence (or actual control) is the crucial "fact" on which the Defendants' so-called Emergency Motion (to conceal information from the American people) depended. Yet, the Defendants failed to present any evidence (or even argue) that the DOJ actually would pursue any prosecution of Trump's accomplices after Trump's inauguration. Judge Cannon certainly did not ask the DOJ to present any such evidence. Instead, in her January 13 order, Judge Cannon merely emphasized that the "parties agree that Volume II" merely somehow "concerns this criminal proceeding."
When a judge relies on something that parties merely "agree" rather than on the facts and evidence that the judge KNOWS the law REQUIRES, that's a red flag. The parties' mere agreement that information merely somehow "concerns this criminal proceeding" clearly and irrefutably is not the standard that governs Judge Cannon's own conduct. Even the Defendants' own motion emphasized that fact (and the controlling legal standard).
As the Defendants counsel (and Judge Cannon) knew, the Defendants must actually believe (and show "good cause" (per Rule 6 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure) to believe) that "there is a reasonable likelihood that" public "dissemination" of the information in Vol. I or Vol. II actually "will interfere" (in a material respect) "with a fair trial or otherwise prejudice the due administration of justice.” Judge Cannon knows the Defendants did not show such good cause.
Trump's own public statements (and other compelling facts, including Trump's choices for leadership positions in the DOJ) establish there is no "likelihood" of a "fair trial" or "due administration of justice." Even before Trump was elected, he publicly boasted that he, personally, "would fire [Jack Smith] within two seconds" after Trump's inauguration. Trump made that campaign promise to his supporters.
Smith, himself, compellingly proved he believes Trump will at least cause Smith to be subjected to harassment and retaliation and cause justice to be obstructed and he believes the DOJ will not prosecute Trump's accomplices. As Judge Cannon already knows, Smith already has resigned.
Trump and his counsel provided further compelling evidence that they all expect the termination of these criminal proceedings against Trump's accomplices. In a motion on Jan. 7, 2025, Trump and his counsel actually argued and represented to the Court that "President Trump should be permitted to participate in these proceedings" precisely because Trump is the "soon-to-be President."
It is not even plausible that Trump and his counsel would insist on Trump's "right" to participate in criminal proceedings that they expect will continue all the way to trial. For years, Trump and his counsel worked hard to get out of such proceedings. For years, they asked judges of multiple courts to pretend that Trump had immunity from prosecution for his crimes specifically because participating in such proceedings would interfere with the president's ability to perform his duties.
Marlo, had Joyce been Cannon's boss, she would never have gotten the documents case in the first place. It was a huge conflict of interest which has turned into a fiasco which as planned let Toddler-Trump off again from his many crimes. Why is everyone bowing and scraping to a toddler-adult? It makes no sense except maybe to bad parents who let their toddler rule the house, never a good choice.
Houston, yes, Cannon does have everything Republicans crave, lack of integrity, a general ignorance of the law, willingness to kiss Toddler-Trump's nether regions, and a disregard for the American people, well, except maybe for the rich white ones who will give her some goodies as many perhaps all of the Supreme 6 have benefited from.
This was my question, too. What authority does she have over a case that is not before her? Why would anyone even pay attention to her sycophancy? Why not just call her out and blow her off?
I will state it plainly: America is no longer a country that abides by the rule of law. That basic principle of our founding is gone. The criminals are now in charge and we can no longer rely on the courts for anything remotely resembling justice. This nightmare will not end until the people rise up in sustained mass protest. Sadly, there are no indications that that is going to happen anytime soon.
Unfortunately, and sadly, U R CORRECT!! In posts on various sites and other media I.ve called out for Americans to fight and oppose enemies of our Democracy! Politicians and the CORRUPT LEGAL/JUDICIAL SYSTEM have violated and destroyed Our Human, Civil, and Constitutional rights and almost NO ONE cares!! FELON TRUMP'S ABORTION BAN is in effect in over 20 states and yet 55% of WHITE FEMALES voted for FELON TRUMP and POTUS MUSK!! At least 70% of all MEN(?) voted for FELON TRUMP! male (?) vote did NOT surprise me but, that many females FLABBERGASTED me! America is CURSED and I hope KARMA serves its justice soon! America is HOPELESS and NO ONE is COMING to save us. PEACE!
pts, I love your idea! I am hoping Smith and friends took a copy or ten with him/them and that he will pass it/them along to the groups you recommend ASAP, before Trump and his thugs take over. Trump will do whatever harm to this nation he can as long as we let him do it and there are plenty of Republican minions who will do his dirty work for him because he is so pathetic. He can do nothing for himself, except bankrupt 6 times and approve horrific actions like separating kids from parents. Trump is neither bright nor caring, but his angry old man self is going to be unleashed next Monday and the nation will pay for voting in such a terrible human being.
America is CURSED since FELON TRUMP and POTUS MUSK were elected. The only reason VPOTUS Harris lost is b/c she's a BLACK WOMAN!! All the other LAME EXUSES spewed by analysts are BS when compared to the TRUE REASON!! Hopefully KARMA will serve its justice on the voters who are the "ENEMIES of AMERICA"SOON!!
Stephanie & pts, Thank you for your comments 100% agree with you. Merrick Garland is as the old joke goes an enigma wrapped in a riddle. Timid to a fault? Threatened or intimidated by the MAGA's? Every US citizen and our allies need to know what Trump was doing with the documents.
Everybody: Jen Psaki interviewed ANDREW WEISSMANN on her Sunday show today.
Andrew pointed out Merrick Garland alone could release "substantial information" in JACK SMITH's report on the "classified document case". Andrew stated clearly that it was a "mistake" not to release Jack Smith's information in his report, Volume II, "about a lot of people" specifically calling out KASH PATEL. Jen Psaki stated she would "follow up on that" information.
There is much work that must be down now. Kash Patel's Senate hearing is waiting on the receipt of the Patel's FBI background check. The FBI has conducted interviews. We need Smith's Volume II in whole or relevant parts ASAP. Jen's interview of Andrew starts at the 29 minute time marker on her show.
Said it before. . .Biden should have found a better AG long ago. Biden wanted to shove it to Trump and McConnell and that hurt all of us. Garland may have been a great jurist, but he is a failure at the Political game.
I agree. But we don't know him, and thinking about his righteous crusader work for The Hague I'm wondering if perhaps, if it isn't released, he will. Leaving his DoJ post frees him from constraints that would bind him for some matters.
He can speak, as a private citizen. But I wouldn't think he'd release the report. But he might give it off to someone who will.
Or money to defend himself against the scurrilous attacks on him from the MAGA world that are coming down the pike. I hope he does write that book, but I have a feeling he will not.
The U.S. Attorney General (Garland) should stand up and support and defend the U.S. Constitution as he swore to do. Lawyers certainly need not comply with an illegal order by any judge. The American Bar Association's Model Rules of Professional Conduct Rule 3.4 emphasizes that a lawyer may "knowingly disobey an obligation under the rules of a tribunal" if he or she does so by means of "an open refusal based on an assertion that no valid obligation exists." Rule 8.4 also emphasizes that lawyers must not "knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law."
She did, Bryan. I was refering to the American Bar Associations Model Rules for Professional Conduct. Seems like, as a lawyer, Cannon violated just about every part of Jack's post.
That's a good question and there's a good answer to it. A lot of retired or semi-retired lawyers and judges (or law professors or law students) out there could be and should be doing more of what Joyce is doing--using their knowledge and writing skills (and learning more) to expose and oppose the misconduct of judges (like Cannon) who are attacking and undermining our Constitution.
Lawyers who are actually practicing before judges are afraid of judges. Too many judges too often act in mean, spiteful ways to attack lawyers who expose judicial misconduct. Judges in multiple courts commonly gang up on a lawyer who dares to expose judicial misconduct. But there's not much a judge can do to retaliate against a retired lawyer or judge for exposing the lies and crimes of judges. More retired lawyers and judges need to file more complaints against judges who violate the Code of Conduct for United States Judges.
That explains a lot, Jack. My takeaway from it is that the Rule of Law is a Tooth Fairy that we believe in at our peril. The more I learn, the more disheartened I become. I'm glad I'm old. At 82, I probably won't have to put up with this dumpster fire for all that much longer.
Although not quite as bad as Comey for announcing an investigation into Clinton days before the election, Garland also will not be remembered kindly in history when he could have made a difference and chose not to act.
For me, leaks should occur only when there is no other way to secure accountability and the transparency of content benefits the American. A leak in this case is not only justified, but also urgent.
Bob Woodward is a Republican. He will sit on this information until he can gain a big buck from it. NO! Give it to anyone who will publish it immediately without the input from "Good 'ole Bob"
I had asked a related question: why can't Biden demand the documents and then release them as an official act. The case against the other two Trump stooges is going to end with dismissal in a few weeks. We could skip WaPo. Just release.
I'm definitely with you on the Jan 14th national day of shame designation. Seems appropriate that Hegseth will have his comfirmation hearing on that date.
My only problem with that is that having such a day would keep us reminded of the worst time and the worst person our country ever had to endure. How about we all just hold our noses for 4 years and then return to sanity?
The judge Cannon case is such a debacle. I think she is trying to stay relevant. I hope she gets put in her place. Sounds like she might be qualified to write parking tickets rather than a bench gig.
I'd pay to watch Cannon's confirmation hearing. I'm guessing that no one will be able to ask WTF she thought she was doing there at the end with opinions on closed cases that weren't even hers.
Cannon is only trying to stay relevant in trump's eyes. She was slapped twice by the 11th circuit court and soon she will be slapped a third time. trump will be gone in four years. Does she not have a trace of concern for her reputation?
Federal judges do not have to be team players in their courts. They are virtual islands. The worst thing that can happen to them is getting chastised by an appeals court or the SC (a rarity) or impeachment (even more rare.) But she will just go on like normal and enable her sugar daddy in destroying our country.
that's my point--the somewhat worst thing has already happened--the 11th circuit has chastised her twice and she feels so empowered she doesn't care. Next month I will visit my friend who is her next door neighbor. That'll be weird....
I have Britt and Tuberville as my senators. They are going to rubber stamp everyone. I often wonder what it’s like to be them. Wandering around without an original thought…..
Jon, you are open minded. Here is a prediction of mine. We lost and if we insist on not reevaluating our issues, at best we may only get partial victory. The democrats (of which I one in name only in order to vote locally) Ed to reflect on issues that the larger population supports. I won’t get nitty gritty you already know my positions. Here is one that got my goat. Biden wanted to phase out gas stoves. Gas stoves? Holy Toledo. I love my gas stove. If you want folks to vote against you, tell them they need to toss their gas stoves out, lol.
Gas stoves emit nitrogen dioxide (NO2), a pollutant that can cause:
Respiratory problems, especially for people with asthma or other respiratory illnesses
Decreased lung development in children
Early deaths
An increased risk of developing heart disease
Childhood asthma
A December 2022 paper estimated that 12.7% of all current childhood asthma cases in the United States are attributable to gas stove use.
High concentrations of emissions
During cooking, peaks of NO2 can reach hundreds of parts per billion, exceeding the outdoor short-term 1-hour National Ambient Air Quality Standard.
Proximity to emissions
People and their children are often close to high-concentration emissions from gas stoves while cooking.
To reduce indoor pollution and health risks, you can:
Use an exhaust hood, even if it doesn't vent outside
Keep your home well-ventilated
The US Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) has launched a task force about gas stoves and indoor air quality. The CPSC is actively investigating the issue, but has no plans to ban gas stoves.
Gas stoves emit unsafe levels of nitrogen dioxide | Stanford Report
May 3, 2024
Stanford Report
What Science Says About the Health Risks of Gas Stoves | Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health
Apr 7, 2023
Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health
Clearing the Air: About Gas Stoves - University of Utah Health
Apr 18, 2023 — That said, using an exhaust hood, even if it doesn't vent outside, is better than no fan at all, according to Mendoza,
Well I understand the health risks and yes there are some. My family had had gas stoves my entire life and the one time I had an electric stove I could not use it properly. I expect the loss of good cooking was more harmful to our health than the relatively small risk from gas stove.
However consider that we STILL permit the sales of tobacco which is about 200x more dangerous to the health of Americans (both smokers and those of us who have to inhale the exhausts) than gas stoves.
I suggest we pay attention to the things that are IMPORTANT and not worry so much about the smaller issues.
To you and Bill... it would be phased out. As well you can learn to cook great meals on electricity. But this is not only about your health, if you don't care.
Some, as well, don't have the choice because their apartments come with gas stoves. This should not be imposed on people who rent. NYC .. for instance. With re tobacco.. you cannot smoke in many places now. You can go ahead and smoke in your home outside and your car. Gas stoves surely will still be sold but restricted due to these health hazards.
I suggest you don't decide what is important to a person's life.
The point that I made is not to bug people about things like this. Do you want to win elections or get buggy abut things that most of us want.? That’s my point.
I'm in Alabama also. I email those two a few times per week. I wonder if that will get us in trouble at some point?
I am old. I am low income. I am afraid. I have "prepped" a lot for what comes after January 20th.
I bought cleaning supplies to last a year, because they can be stored and last a long time. Saves money for other higher prices, later.
I bought a new Kindle, a new phone, and a new tablet. All are spares, so I can always communicate. These items are going to be expensive.
I am eating everything in my pantry, freezer, cupboards right now. Prior to January 20th, I will shop for all new stuff to store and freeze. The groceries will skyrocket, because Publix CAN...
And as someone here brikliantly suggested a while back, I will look for a roommate if my Social Security is cut!
Joyce, this was an exhaustive piece. Thanks for every word! And the snow chickens were good, too!
I stocked up and bought backups too. I'm in Maine and we will be working hard to replace Susan Collins in 2026. She says she's running again. 😠 She used to be moderate but she has no backbone and won't stand up to Trump. She only voted with Dems during the Biden admin when Murkowsky did. Between voting for Kavanaugh and Trump's head of Dept and cabinet picks I'm feeling confident we can beat her this time. 🙏
Can't there still be a rush of phone calls to their offices to let them know 50.1% of voters did not vote for Trump, vs. 49.9 %, which does not amount to a "mandate," and that you object to unqualified nominees who are a disgrace to this country's majority? Katie Britt 202-224-5744; Tommy Tuberville 202-224-4124.
Those of us who subscribe to Scott Dworkin’s Substack have been sending letters and calling our Senators for weeks. Over 100,000 letters have been sent concerning the unqualified candidates, including Hegseth.
I need to look @ this substack```` i have been doing this on my own. Are any of his candidates qualified? As Jimmy Carter's casket passed , everyone put their hand over their heart, except one. This will be no difference when he takes the oath of office & the same as his nominees say whatever lie to attain the cabinet post. Does the oath mean anything to them?
Well this is a bit nit picky. Bill Clinton claimed a mandate when he won with only 43% of the vote (that was the year Ross Perot got a substantial number of votes). The mandate claim is based on number of electoral votes which are the only votes that actually count. Trump got more electoral votes in 2024 than he did in 2016 when he also won but lost the popular vote. This time he won both even if his popular vote margin was slim.
In any sense it is irrelevant. He won, the people (us) lost but that's the way our election system works. I am much more sympathetic to arguments against his really fatuous nominations like RFKjr, Tulsa Gabbard and Kash Patel.
I can not see why anyone would want to live in Texas anymore. What a corrupt state, with amazingly corrupt leaders. I feel sorry for you if you have to stay because of employment or family. I don't care how beneficial that place is for things like taxes, it would feel like prison to me. With all its failings, California still feels like a better place to live.
I live in texas too. It is not an easy task to up and move to a different state. Unfortunately money has everything to do with it. Thank goodness I live in a Democratic city in a sea of red. We have decent politicians at the local level. That is who I will pay attention to. Felon 47 will NEVER be my president, ever, and I will not acknowledge it, either. cruz and cornyn (not capitalized to show my consternation) both suck and are mostly worthless as senators, especially cruz.
Yes. I wouldn’t live anywhere else in this state. But honestly if I could, I would move to Oregon in a New York minute. But we just can’t swing it; we have the most wonderful neighbors who we are very good friends with, my sister, her partner and 2 kids are here as is my cousin who I am also friends with.
I live in Oregon - I believe it's a hares breath from becoming Republican. 2/3 rds of the state doesn't even want to acknowledge our Lesbian Governor. It's only because of Portland Metro & Willamette Valley there's enough "D" voters to win by a slim margin. You can bet when Trump starts cutting off federal funds, OR leaders will collapse like an aluminum bumper. I'm hoping to move back to CA even though my family are Oregon Pioneers & I've lived here more than half my life.
I get it. I began looking into Italian citizenship because I have a right to it on account of my grandparents on my mother’s side “DiMauro” born in Sicily. The government wants around $600 for the document.
Absolutely, Jon. My kids and I moved from near Houston, Texas to near San Francisco, California, 35 years ago. I don't think I'll ever go back. I'm very grateful to be in a blue city in a solidly blue state, surrounded by people whose ideology corresponds to mine, despite the problems.
Ignorance really is bliss, Jennifer, if you are a Republican senator. When I first came to this country as a child, I knew nothing of American politics or government. I'm guessing that's where Britt and Tuberville are inside their heads. All that changed when I had to coach my mother through her naturalization process five years later. That interlude was rather nice. I'd like it back. My condolences for your senators' aimless wanderings..
If he runs, he’ll be re-elected. He ran against Doug Jones. Alabama sent a second rate football coach with no knowledge government instead of Jones. This is why Alabama can’t have nice things.
I know because mine are Jerryjeffrickybobbywaynestupid and some other guy. I'm not sure, but they are empty vessels that are programmed to repeat everything any republican ever says. Neither has a working brain, but then again our whole state is that way hence them being in office. Big oil rules the state and the whole world it seems. No one says you have to be smart to dig a hole and find oil. You can't throw a rock without hitting a petroleum worker.
The employees of the Justice Department who are not clearly identified as MAGA are going to have a very bad time after the transition. Maybe one of them who might be planning an exit anyway could figure out a way to get those documents into the public. Easier to ask forgiveness than permission….
I would put my money on the Congress people who got the report if any of them were Democrats. Otherwise, we’re asking a career civil servant to jeopardize the pension they earned through long difficult effort. That seems too much to ask.
Not just their pension. They risk jail time. A congress person has some immunity due to the speech and debate clause of the Constitution.
I still wish Biden had considered issuing a nationwide blanket pardon to ALL citizens for all federal crimes committed prior to the date of the pardon. Maybe he still will on Jan 20. Most people would be unaffected but anyone who did something like a leak would be 100% protected from prosecution.
I wish he would commute the life sentence of Indian activist Leonard Peltier. Looks like he won’t and for this reason among others I really despise Biden.
Why not? Trump will pardon them all anyway. The idea is a general pardon for EVERYONE so it's not considered favoritism like pardon he issued for Hunter. Sure some will get them who don't deserve it but mercy is a good thing IMHO (and I'm not even religious!)
The main thing with a general pardon is it leaves NO ONE for Trump to go after at all!
Ughhh. I am feeling so overwhelmed that I had a panic attack earlier today along with crying. Good days and bad days…January 14th is a national day of shame! Judge cannon sucks.
Also, WHY is the 11th Circuit not immediately quashing Cannon’s meddling given that there is NO case before her? I don’t understand why she is permitted so much latitude when she has brought a measure of shame on the rule of law by her questionable rulings and judgements. It is so frustrating that blatant interference is allowed to be taken seriously.
I get the impression that there is still a trial pending for the other two defendants, although I'm not sure who the prosecutor would be since Jack Smith resigned.
The US is the prosecutor. Smith was just the prosecuting attorney, but criminal prosecutions are always brought in the name of the government. That protects each case if someone has to resign or retire.
Joyce, regarding Volume II of Jack Smith's report being in jeopardy of not being released:
What about the idea floated by Kristy Greenberg on Nicole Wallace's "Deadline: Whitehouse," that Merrick Garland drop the documents case against the two co-defendants (small fish, about to be pardoned) and let America see the report?
Garland says he's withholding it to protect the process of a trial that will never happen. Focused on his department's reputation for integrity, he is actively preparing the spectacle of Trump escaping judgment, ending the case, AND deep-sixing the report. How does such a lose-lose-lose outcome build confidence in our system's effectiveness?
This is a great idea but Garland has not been especially quick on the uptake with ideas, it's one of the reasons we are in this mess in the first place.
Now that he’s a convicted felon, will he be denied travel to certain countries, like Canada? There are a number of countries that apparently deny entrance to felons.
Some folks have already covered this in other places. It's true that a number of countries do deny entrance to felons, which I know because I happen to know a felon. But that felon has been to countries recently that previously denied access. I don't know whether it's because time has expired on that or what but I have very serious doubts that anybody is going to deny Trump access on the basis of being a felon.
Not too much. Technically yes, but at the same time once he is in office, he could have the benefit of sovereign immunity (given to ambassadors and other federal workers in foreign countries) and most countries who want to be friendly with the US aren't going to pick a fight over that. It's not like he was convicted of murder of something (although who knows, right?)
Its important to us but in other countries they really don't care about how leaders get into power much especially big important countries like the US. Hey, we let Stalin work with us during WW2 and he certainly did a lot worse to the Soviet people than Trump did to us no matter how bad we think it is.
I believe, based on what I have read, that trump as a private citizen would not be allowed but as President of the United States, he will have no problem
There is also a Resistance effort to make Jan. 20th the first day of a 6-day boycott of all mainstream media (MSM) including boycotting the televised inauguration. Many of us already get our news from smaller, independent media sources like Substack so it's not difficult and would affect MSM ratings if enough people participate. Please consider it.
I'm certainly with you on the National Day of Shame on those Republican. Such a Statement should be published even if it can't pass. AOC are you listening?
Thank you for keeping olf informed of all the legal developments Joyce, we'd be lost without you.
Please explain: trump was sentenced "after" being elected. He is a felon. Why is he permitted to take office? If Dems were the ones with an indicted felon, they would do everything to stop the inauguration. There is no way to stop the inauguration? Makes no sense because a business would not hire a felon, and with 35 counts!
In order to be elected and then serve as President a person must meet certain requirements set forth in the US Constitution. Having a felony conviction (34 in fact) does not disqualify trump from being President. Sorry if someone promised you that life is always fair, they were wrong
Nope, no one ever promised fairness and at 70 know this well. Michael Cohen went to jail and others have been justly barred as lawyers. Outcomes have occurred but unfortunately not to trump. Still, many will take a stand for dignity and truth to oppose fear.
To be a LITTLE fair, the criminal convictions he suffered are NOT violent felonies. They were effectively business record felonies which are pretty mild. It's not even like bribery. It's doubtful that even if he wasn't elected President that he would spend much if any time in jail for THESE crimes (I am ignoring the crimes he hasn't been convicted of because those wouldn't count anyway until he is convicted)
But as pointed out, President is special anyway and even if he HAD committed serial murders AND been convicted, he could still be elected and would be permitted to serve. It's one of the weird quirks of our Constitution.
The nature of felonies, violent vs. nonviolent, is not determintive. In most states, a felony is a crime subject to a possible sentence of more than 1 year imprisonment and/or the imposition of a Fine. Since Trump has no prior criminal record and his age a sentence of imprisonment would had been very unusual.
Can Joe Biden order the release of the second volume of Jack Smith’s report in the interest of National Security? If people involved in that case are heading up our DOJ, we should know what, if any, crimes they committed.
Sure would be great if some anonymous patriot dropped off copies of the Jack Smith reports on Bob Woodward's front porch...
Possibly a silly question: Who gives a flying ---- what Cannon says at this point? Why does anyone give her "orders" the slightest attention? She's out of the game.
And forgive me if I repeat myself -- can't remember where I've aired this view recently. There had better be several digital copies of the full, unredacted report safely stashed around the world, to be released at the given signal. If the various malevolent and corrupt forces at play succeed in preventing the report's release, let the signal ring out, let the truth see the light of day, and let the chips fall where they may.
Sure, including Woodward on the distro would be OK. But I'd start with ProPublica, The Guardian, Meidas Touch, maybe Talking Points Memo, and <add your favorite truth-telling, democracy-defending independent information outlet here>. I wouldn't even waste the bandwidth sending copies to NYT and WaPo and LAT.
Let the spirit of Daniel Ellsberg roam. It's nigh time.
Cannon should be disbarred. I don’t understand why she hasn’t been at least reprimanded.
I also don't understand why people are taking her current orders seriously when she does not have jurisdiction. She should have been clapped back by the 11th Circuit.
Exactly. Why is Garland even pretending to listen to her. According to her timetable, then as I type this Trump has quite a few hrs to file appeals. Garland needs to grow a spine. And other bits.
Exactly, don’t they know the law?
Federal judges are pretty much immune from most bad or illegal or inappropriate behavior.
Kind of like the Supreme Court?
The Judicial Conference has jurisdiction. Censors and sanctions lots of judges. The problem is that at the 11th cir, many judges are like minded.
No, they are not, and it does no good to anyone to perpetuate that falsehood.
Marlo, Cannon is not going to be disbarred or kicked off the bench or anything else because she is a good little minion and will rule exactly what Trump, who nominated her wants her to do and gladly. She is a puppet who will do the bidding of Trump and his oligarchic friends. So anti-American!
You are being too kind. In the words of the great philosopher K. Olbermann,
"she is a judicial whore". Sorry Joyce but she is so corrupt she should be on the s. corruptors
"Judicial Whore" hardly describes Judge (?) Cannon. She is a FASCIST, TRAITOR and MUST be REMOVED from the COURTS, NOW!!
Judge Cannon's own orders in January 2025 provided further proof that Judge Cannon is corruptly abusing her position and powers and she is acting like a mere con man to deceive the American public. In footnote 2 to her January 13 order, Judge Cannon very publicly threatened DOJ attorneys with disciplinary action for potential lack of "candor' with respect to their "representations made to this Court." Yet, Judge Cannon said nothing to Trump's attorneys about their obvious (and irrefutable) lack of candor.
An actual future prosecution of Trump's accomplices by the DOJ under Trump's influence (or actual control) is the crucial "fact" on which the Defendants' so-called Emergency Motion (to conceal information from the American people) depended. Yet, the Defendants failed to present any evidence (or even argue) that the DOJ actually would pursue any prosecution of Trump's accomplices after Trump's inauguration. Judge Cannon certainly did not ask the DOJ to present any such evidence. Instead, in her January 13 order, Judge Cannon merely emphasized that the "parties agree that Volume II" merely somehow "concerns this criminal proceeding."
When a judge relies on something that parties merely "agree" rather than on the facts and evidence that the judge KNOWS the law REQUIRES, that's a red flag. The parties' mere agreement that information merely somehow "concerns this criminal proceeding" clearly and irrefutably is not the standard that governs Judge Cannon's own conduct. Even the Defendants' own motion emphasized that fact (and the controlling legal standard).
As the Defendants counsel (and Judge Cannon) knew, the Defendants must actually believe (and show "good cause" (per Rule 6 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure) to believe) that "there is a reasonable likelihood that" public "dissemination" of the information in Vol. I or Vol. II actually "will interfere" (in a material respect) "with a fair trial or otherwise prejudice the due administration of justice.” Judge Cannon knows the Defendants did not show such good cause.
Trump's own public statements (and other compelling facts, including Trump's choices for leadership positions in the DOJ) establish there is no "likelihood" of a "fair trial" or "due administration of justice." Even before Trump was elected, he publicly boasted that he, personally, "would fire [Jack Smith] within two seconds" after Trump's inauguration. Trump made that campaign promise to his supporters.
Smith, himself, compellingly proved he believes Trump will at least cause Smith to be subjected to harassment and retaliation and cause justice to be obstructed and he believes the DOJ will not prosecute Trump's accomplices. As Judge Cannon already knows, Smith already has resigned.
Trump and his counsel provided further compelling evidence that they all expect the termination of these criminal proceedings against Trump's accomplices. In a motion on Jan. 7, 2025, Trump and his counsel actually argued and represented to the Court that "President Trump should be permitted to participate in these proceedings" precisely because Trump is the "soon-to-be President."
It is not even plausible that Trump and his counsel would insist on Trump's "right" to participate in criminal proceedings that they expect will continue all the way to trial. For years, Trump and his counsel worked hard to get out of such proceedings. For years, they asked judges of multiple courts to pretend that Trump had immunity from prosecution for his crimes specifically because participating in such proceedings would interfere with the president's ability to perform his duties.
We need to make Joyce Vance Cannon’s boss!
Marlo, had Joyce been Cannon's boss, she would never have gotten the documents case in the first place. It was a huge conflict of interest which has turned into a fiasco which as planned let Toddler-Trump off again from his many crimes. Why is everyone bowing and scraping to a toddler-adult? It makes no sense except maybe to bad parents who let their toddler rule the house, never a good choice.
Destined for SCOTUS. She has everything that Trump is looking for in a judge.
Exactly, ignorance of the law, lack of integrity, only caring about power - NOT following the law and doing justice for the American citizens.
"WE the People of AMERICA MUST find a way to stop that from happening!!
Houston, yes, Cannon does have everything Republicans crave, lack of integrity, a general ignorance of the law, willingness to kiss Toddler-Trump's nether regions, and a disregard for the American people, well, except maybe for the rich white ones who will give her some goodies as many perhaps all of the Supreme 6 have benefited from.
U R TOO KIND in your description of FASCIST JUDGE (?) Cannon.
Woodward would sit on it until his book about it came out. Integrity, where hast thou gone?
Yes, let's all honor Daniel Ellsberg.
Hear, hear, pts. Pro Publica would be my first choice as well. Or send it to all of them and let them fight to see who publishes it first.
This was my question, too. What authority does she have over a case that is not before her? Why would anyone even pay attention to her sycophancy? Why not just call her out and blow her off?
I will state it plainly: America is no longer a country that abides by the rule of law. That basic principle of our founding is gone. The criminals are now in charge and we can no longer rely on the courts for anything remotely resembling justice. This nightmare will not end until the people rise up in sustained mass protest. Sadly, there are no indications that that is going to happen anytime soon.
Unfortunately, and sadly, U R CORRECT!! In posts on various sites and other media I.ve called out for Americans to fight and oppose enemies of our Democracy! Politicians and the CORRUPT LEGAL/JUDICIAL SYSTEM have violated and destroyed Our Human, Civil, and Constitutional rights and almost NO ONE cares!! FELON TRUMP'S ABORTION BAN is in effect in over 20 states and yet 55% of WHITE FEMALES voted for FELON TRUMP and POTUS MUSK!! At least 70% of all MEN(?) voted for FELON TRUMP! male (?) vote did NOT surprise me but, that many females FLABBERGASTED me! America is CURSED and I hope KARMA serves its justice soon! America is HOPELESS and NO ONE is COMING to save us. PEACE!
pts, I love your idea! I am hoping Smith and friends took a copy or ten with him/them and that he will pass it/them along to the groups you recommend ASAP, before Trump and his thugs take over. Trump will do whatever harm to this nation he can as long as we let him do it and there are plenty of Republican minions who will do his dirty work for him because he is so pathetic. He can do nothing for himself, except bankrupt 6 times and approve horrific actions like separating kids from parents. Trump is neither bright nor caring, but his angry old man self is going to be unleashed next Monday and the nation will pay for voting in such a terrible human being.
Wish J. Smith could do that but he is a an example of those who follow the rules and that doesn't work anymore.
America is CURSED since FELON TRUMP and POTUS MUSK were elected. The only reason VPOTUS Harris lost is b/c she's a BLACK WOMAN!! All the other LAME EXUSES spewed by analysts are BS when compared to the TRUE REASON!! Hopefully KARMA will serve its justice on the voters who are the "ENEMIES of AMERICA"SOON!!
Stephanie & pts, Thank you for your comments 100% agree with you. Merrick Garland is as the old joke goes an enigma wrapped in a riddle. Timid to a fault? Threatened or intimidated by the MAGA's? Every US citizen and our allies need to know what Trump was doing with the documents.
love this - written so eloquently.
I think Jack Smith will soon be writing a blockbuster tell all book now that he’s resigning. That will be worth 5 million dollars. Retirement money.
Everybody: Jen Psaki interviewed ANDREW WEISSMANN on her Sunday show today.
Andrew pointed out Merrick Garland alone could release "substantial information" in JACK SMITH's report on the "classified document case". Andrew stated clearly that it was a "mistake" not to release Jack Smith's information in his report, Volume II, "about a lot of people" specifically calling out KASH PATEL. Jen Psaki stated she would "follow up on that" information.
There is much work that must be down now. Kash Patel's Senate hearing is waiting on the receipt of the Patel's FBI background check. The FBI has conducted interviews. We need Smith's Volume II in whole or relevant parts ASAP. Jen's interview of Andrew starts at the 29 minute time marker on her show.
All the slime buckets are waiting to enter the cabinet. Cheeses
Said it before. . .Biden should have found a better AG long ago. Biden wanted to shove it to Trump and McConnell and that hurt all of us. Garland may have been a great jurist, but he is a failure at the Political game.
Bill Katz - but I don’t think that is quite Smith’s style. Perhaps there are other ways he could shake things up.
I agree. But we don't know him, and thinking about his righteous crusader work for The Hague I'm wondering if perhaps, if it isn't released, he will. Leaving his DoJ post frees him from constraints that would bind him for some matters.
He can speak, as a private citizen. But I wouldn't think he'd release the report. But he might give it off to someone who will.
Wish he would but he has too much integrity. I think that is the word. Wasn't sure it was still in use.
Trump would sue him. That’s his MO.
That's why Biden should pull his finger out. He cannot be sued for an official act, nor can he be held criminally liable.
Just a tad late! all these folks who keep "the skinny" close to the vest until they garner a book deal have done America a disservice.
I hope so, but the MAGAs will try to find him first.
Or money to defend himself against the scurrilous attacks on him from the MAGA world that are coming down the pike. I hope he does write that book, but I have a feeling he will not.
The U.S. Attorney General (Garland) should stand up and support and defend the U.S. Constitution as he swore to do. Lawyers certainly need not comply with an illegal order by any judge. The American Bar Association's Model Rules of Professional Conduct Rule 3.4 emphasizes that a lawyer may "knowingly disobey an obligation under the rules of a tribunal" if he or she does so by means of "an open refusal based on an assertion that no valid obligation exists." Rule 8.4 also emphasizes that lawyers must not "knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law."
So where does that leave Aileen Cannon and the Trump lawyers who coach her??
I think Professor Vance covered that one; Loose Cannon's 72 house Order expires automatically tomorrow regardless.
She did, Bryan. I was refering to the American Bar Associations Model Rules for Professional Conduct. Seems like, as a lawyer, Cannon violated just about every part of Jack's post.
Yeh, but Trump has a few hrs to file an appeal. I'd much prefer it if DOJ nipped this in the bud now. Or yesterday.
That's a good question and there's a good answer to it. A lot of retired or semi-retired lawyers and judges (or law professors or law students) out there could be and should be doing more of what Joyce is doing--using their knowledge and writing skills (and learning more) to expose and oppose the misconduct of judges (like Cannon) who are attacking and undermining our Constitution.
Lawyers who are actually practicing before judges are afraid of judges. Too many judges too often act in mean, spiteful ways to attack lawyers who expose judicial misconduct. Judges in multiple courts commonly gang up on a lawyer who dares to expose judicial misconduct. But there's not much a judge can do to retaliate against a retired lawyer or judge for exposing the lies and crimes of judges. More retired lawyers and judges need to file more complaints against judges who violate the Code of Conduct for United States Judges.
See https://www.uscourts.gov/administration-policies/judiciary-policies/ethics-policies/code-conduct-united-states-judges
That explains a lot, Jack. My takeaway from it is that the Rule of Law is a Tooth Fairy that we believe in at our peril. The more I learn, the more disheartened I become. I'm glad I'm old. At 82, I probably won't have to put up with this dumpster fire for all that much longer.
Garland is too much of a milk toast, unfortunately.
Concur.
You make an excellent point, but this is Garland. He hasn't done the right thing in the last 4 yrs. I don't see him doing anything.
Although not quite as bad as Comey for announcing an investigation into Clinton days before the election, Garland also will not be remembered kindly in history when he could have made a difference and chose not to act.
Sorry for you, I live in a blue state. Still, all disheartening.
For me, leaks should occur only when there is no other way to secure accountability and the transparency of content benefits the American. A leak in this case is not only justified, but also urgent.
You read my mind.....Daniel Ellsberg where are you?
In the ground.
Yes... in remembrance of his bravery. 1931-2023
🙏 I met him once in the Green Room at KPFA in Berkeley CA. A brave man with a brilliant mind who asks penetrating questions.
Or I will get the report to ProPublica.
Someone MUST have a copy; a national hero whistleblower.
Bob Woodward is a Republican. He will sit on this information until he can gain a big buck from it. NO! Give it to anyone who will publish it immediately without the input from "Good 'ole Bob"
I had asked a related question: why can't Biden demand the documents and then release them as an official act. The case against the other two Trump stooges is going to end with dismissal in a few weeks. We could skip WaPo. Just release.
Oh yes -- I've been thinking the same thing!
I'm definitely with you on the Jan 14th national day of shame designation. Seems appropriate that Hegseth will have his comfirmation hearing on that date.
My only problem with that is that having such a day would keep us reminded of the worst time and the worst person our country ever had to endure. How about we all just hold our noses for 4 years and then return to sanity?
Do you remember when he said you won’t have to ever vote again?
Yup. Worries me, too.
My, my . . . how naive you are. After Trump has destroyed our government, do you actually think there will be the means to "return to sanity"?
Let me please repeat my song because it might get lost below.
I haven't recorded this song but it will be performed in New York Manhatten on Saturday.
Titled: "I'm a Political Prisoner"
I’m a political prisoner.
Stand with me, stand with me.
I’m a political prisoner.
Stand with me, stand with me.
They raided my home.
Arrested me finger-printed me.
They took my mug sho.t
Now we’ll go down in history.
I’m a political prisoner.
Stand with me, stand with me.
I’m a political prisoner.
Stand with me, stand with me.
I’ll make America fart again.
Fart again, fart again.
I’ll make America fart again.
Just you wait and see
I’m a political prisoner.
Stand with me, stand with me.
I’m a political prisoner.
Stand with me today.
(Not my most profound song but it will do. It makes folks laugh and we need some laughing.)
But MAGAts and Republicans (now an overlapping Venn diagram) are incapable of shame.
Avoid
Except the Day of Shame should not lie on the date of his impeachment, but on the date of his acquittal Feb. 13.
The judge Cannon case is such a debacle. I think she is trying to stay relevant. I hope she gets put in her place. Sounds like she might be qualified to write parking tickets rather than a bench gig.
Cannon will prob. end up on the SCOTUS when Thomas or Alito retire. Nauseating.
I'd pay to watch Cannon's confirmation hearing. I'm guessing that no one will be able to ask WTF she thought she was doing there at the end with opinions on closed cases that weren't even hers.
In my entire career in the courts I’ve never seen anyone more ignorant and corrupt and arrogant as that horrible excuse for justice.
I'd like to see her on street sweeping duty.
I'd rather see her as latrine cleaner.
Cannon is only trying to stay relevant in trump's eyes. She was slapped twice by the 11th circuit court and soon she will be slapped a third time. trump will be gone in four years. Does she not have a trace of concern for her reputation?
Federal judges do not have to be team players in their courts. They are virtual islands. The worst thing that can happen to them is getting chastised by an appeals court or the SC (a rarity) or impeachment (even more rare.) But she will just go on like normal and enable her sugar daddy in destroying our country.
that's my point--the somewhat worst thing has already happened--the 11th circuit has chastised her twice and she feels so empowered she doesn't care. Next month I will visit my friend who is her next door neighbor. That'll be weird....
Does anyone know where she came from? What kind of background does she have that makes her so corrupt?
I have Britt and Tuberville as my senators. They are going to rubber stamp everyone. I often wonder what it’s like to be them. Wandering around without an original thought…..
Tuberville is incompetent.
Too many footballs bounced off his head 😈
Good one...he actually played the game as a safety so maybe TBI from helmet to helmet contact?
Well he was a halfway decent football coach. Should have stayed on the field instead of heading to Congress.
Jon, you are open minded. Here is a prediction of mine. We lost and if we insist on not reevaluating our issues, at best we may only get partial victory. The democrats (of which I one in name only in order to vote locally) Ed to reflect on issues that the larger population supports. I won’t get nitty gritty you already know my positions. Here is one that got my goat. Biden wanted to phase out gas stoves. Gas stoves? Holy Toledo. I love my gas stove. If you want folks to vote against you, tell them they need to toss their gas stoves out, lol.
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Well I understand the health risks and yes there are some. My family had had gas stoves my entire life and the one time I had an electric stove I could not use it properly. I expect the loss of good cooking was more harmful to our health than the relatively small risk from gas stove.
However consider that we STILL permit the sales of tobacco which is about 200x more dangerous to the health of Americans (both smokers and those of us who have to inhale the exhausts) than gas stoves.
I suggest we pay attention to the things that are IMPORTANT and not worry so much about the smaller issues.
To you and Bill... it would be phased out. As well you can learn to cook great meals on electricity. But this is not only about your health, if you don't care.
Some, as well, don't have the choice because their apartments come with gas stoves. This should not be imposed on people who rent. NYC .. for instance. With re tobacco.. you cannot smoke in many places now. You can go ahead and smoke in your home outside and your car. Gas stoves surely will still be sold but restricted due to these health hazards.
I suggest you don't decide what is important to a person's life.
The point that I made is not to bug people about things like this. Do you want to win elections or get buggy abut things that most of us want.? That’s my point.
Biden said many things, not only that. I don't recall he campaigned on it. But that got your goat enough to mention it. That was my point.
And massively ignorant.
I'm in Alabama also. I email those two a few times per week. I wonder if that will get us in trouble at some point?
I am old. I am low income. I am afraid. I have "prepped" a lot for what comes after January 20th.
I bought cleaning supplies to last a year, because they can be stored and last a long time. Saves money for other higher prices, later.
I bought a new Kindle, a new phone, and a new tablet. All are spares, so I can always communicate. These items are going to be expensive.
I am eating everything in my pantry, freezer, cupboards right now. Prior to January 20th, I will shop for all new stuff to store and freeze. The groceries will skyrocket, because Publix CAN...
And as someone here brikliantly suggested a while back, I will look for a roommate if my Social Security is cut!
Joyce, this was an exhaustive piece. Thanks for every word! And the snow chickens were good, too!
I stocked up and bought backups too. I'm in Maine and we will be working hard to replace Susan Collins in 2026. She says she's running again. 😠 She used to be moderate but she has no backbone and won't stand up to Trump. She only voted with Dems during the Biden admin when Murkowsky did. Between voting for Kavanaugh and Trump's head of Dept and cabinet picks I'm feeling confident we can beat her this time. 🙏
Janey, please don’t be so hard on yourself. After everything is said, we will survive.
Can't there still be a rush of phone calls to their offices to let them know 50.1% of voters did not vote for Trump, vs. 49.9 %, which does not amount to a "mandate," and that you object to unqualified nominees who are a disgrace to this country's majority? Katie Britt 202-224-5744; Tommy Tuberville 202-224-4124.
Those of us who subscribe to Scott Dworkin’s Substack have been sending letters and calling our Senators for weeks. Over 100,000 letters have been sent concerning the unqualified candidates, including Hegseth.
I need to look @ this substack```` i have been doing this on my own. Are any of his candidates qualified? As Jimmy Carter's casket passed , everyone put their hand over their heart, except one. This will be no difference when he takes the oath of office & the same as his nominees say whatever lie to attain the cabinet post. Does the oath mean anything to them?
Imho, no, none of his candidates are qualified. Some are worse than others, however. Hegseth, Kennedy, Gabbard, and Patel are the most dangerous.
Well this is a bit nit picky. Bill Clinton claimed a mandate when he won with only 43% of the vote (that was the year Ross Perot got a substantial number of votes). The mandate claim is based on number of electoral votes which are the only votes that actually count. Trump got more electoral votes in 2024 than he did in 2016 when he also won but lost the popular vote. This time he won both even if his popular vote margin was slim.
In any sense it is irrelevant. He won, the people (us) lost but that's the way our election system works. I am much more sympathetic to arguments against his really fatuous nominations like RFKjr, Tulsa Gabbard and Kash Patel.
Jon, Ross Perot would have become president had he not dropped out then re-entered the race. Remember?
No chance. That is just pie in the sky speculation. There had never been a chance for a third party candidate to be elected in the US.
Understood. But as I recall, have faulty memory, he was polling ahead of Bush and Clinton. Just saying. I could be wrong.
For a time he was ahead
My senators are Cornyn and Cruz. I've tried contacting them before and all I get back is something that is supposed to sound reasonable, but isn't.
I can not see why anyone would want to live in Texas anymore. What a corrupt state, with amazingly corrupt leaders. I feel sorry for you if you have to stay because of employment or family. I don't care how beneficial that place is for things like taxes, it would feel like prison to me. With all its failings, California still feels like a better place to live.
I live in texas too. It is not an easy task to up and move to a different state. Unfortunately money has everything to do with it. Thank goodness I live in a Democratic city in a sea of red. We have decent politicians at the local level. That is who I will pay attention to. Felon 47 will NEVER be my president, ever, and I will not acknowledge it, either. cruz and cornyn (not capitalized to show my consternation) both suck and are mostly worthless as senators, especially cruz.
Don't you just LOVE Austin?
Yes. I wouldn’t live anywhere else in this state. But honestly if I could, I would move to Oregon in a New York minute. But we just can’t swing it; we have the most wonderful neighbors who we are very good friends with, my sister, her partner and 2 kids are here as is my cousin who I am also friends with.
I live in Oregon - I believe it's a hares breath from becoming Republican. 2/3 rds of the state doesn't even want to acknowledge our Lesbian Governor. It's only because of Portland Metro & Willamette Valley there's enough "D" voters to win by a slim margin. You can bet when Trump starts cutting off federal funds, OR leaders will collapse like an aluminum bumper. I'm hoping to move back to CA even though my family are Oregon Pioneers & I've lived here more than half my life.
I totally get it! I live in Oregon and my baby sister lives in Austin, great town but, not the forest♡
I get it. I began looking into Italian citizenship because I have a right to it on account of my grandparents on my mother’s side “DiMauro” born in Sicily. The government wants around $600 for the document.
Absolutely, Jon. My kids and I moved from near Houston, Texas to near San Francisco, California, 35 years ago. I don't think I'll ever go back. I'm very grateful to be in a blue city in a solidly blue state, surrounded by people whose ideology corresponds to mine, despite the problems.
Well we are neighbors then! I live in the city in the Haight district.
Would love to have Texas be given back to Mexico.
I also live in a blue state. I live in CT. I was born in LA, but was back in CT at 3 months old. Thank you, Mom. She didn't like the South.
Yep good ole nutmeg state. I do too.
I assume you meant Louisiana, not Los Angeles :-) !
I feel about Texas the way maggots feel about California. And then there's decent people who loved there.
Damn that man
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They all have a form letter.
I feel for you. I heard someone today refer to Marco Rubio as the dumbest Senator but Tuberville has that trophy locked down tight.
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Ignorance really is bliss, Jennifer, if you are a Republican senator. When I first came to this country as a child, I knew nothing of American politics or government. I'm guessing that's where Britt and Tuberville are inside their heads. All that changed when I had to coach my mother through her naturalization process five years later. That interlude was rather nice. I'd like it back. My condolences for your senators' aimless wanderings..
Thank you. You saw at an early age that decisions matter.
We need to present them with our opinions anyway. If we don't, they'll choose to believe that everyone agrees with them.
He’s up for re-election in ‘26.
If he runs, he’ll be re-elected. He ran against Doug Jones. Alabama sent a second rate football coach with no knowledge government instead of Jones. This is why Alabama can’t have nice things.
I'll raise you,I have Voldemort and Lil Mario.
We're both in the same sinking boat, I'd say.
Britt and Tuberville... my condolences.
And getting paid for it.
Graham and Scott here!
I know because mine are Jerryjeffrickybobbywaynestupid and some other guy. I'm not sure, but they are empty vessels that are programmed to repeat everything any republican ever says. Neither has a working brain, but then again our whole state is that way hence them being in office. Big oil rules the state and the whole world it seems. No one says you have to be smart to dig a hole and find oil. You can't throw a rock without hitting a petroleum worker.
I am so sorry for you.
Please call their offices to voice your opinion.
The employees of the Justice Department who are not clearly identified as MAGA are going to have a very bad time after the transition. Maybe one of them who might be planning an exit anyway could figure out a way to get those documents into the public. Easier to ask forgiveness than permission….
I would put my money on the Congress people who got the report if any of them were Democrats. Otherwise, we’re asking a career civil servant to jeopardize the pension they earned through long difficult effort. That seems too much to ask.
Not just their pension. They risk jail time. A congress person has some immunity due to the speech and debate clause of the Constitution.
I still wish Biden had considered issuing a nationwide blanket pardon to ALL citizens for all federal crimes committed prior to the date of the pardon. Maybe he still will on Jan 20. Most people would be unaffected but anyone who did something like a leak would be 100% protected from prosecution.
I wish he would commute the life sentence of Indian activist Leonard Peltier. Looks like he won’t and for this reason among others I really despise Biden.
ALL citizens? Including the January 6 insurrectionists? I think not.
Why not? Trump will pardon them all anyway. The idea is a general pardon for EVERYONE so it's not considered favoritism like pardon he issued for Hunter. Sure some will get them who don't deserve it but mercy is a good thing IMHO (and I'm not even religious!)
The main thing with a general pardon is it leaves NO ONE for Trump to go after at all!
Consider how frustrated he would be THEN!
Hoping
Ughhh. I am feeling so overwhelmed that I had a panic attack earlier today along with crying. Good days and bad days…January 14th is a national day of shame! Judge cannon sucks.
Also, WHY is the 11th Circuit not immediately quashing Cannon’s meddling given that there is NO case before her? I don’t understand why she is permitted so much latitude when she has brought a measure of shame on the rule of law by her questionable rulings and judgements. It is so frustrating that blatant interference is allowed to be taken seriously.
I get the impression that there is still a trial pending for the other two defendants, although I'm not sure who the prosecutor would be since Jack Smith resigned.
The US is the prosecutor. Smith was just the prosecuting attorney, but criminal prosecutions are always brought in the name of the government. That protects each case if someone has to resign or retire.
The case was handed off to the US Attorney for the SDFL which,of course, is appointed (and replaced) by the president.
Well said, Dana.
Joyce, regarding Volume II of Jack Smith's report being in jeopardy of not being released:
What about the idea floated by Kristy Greenberg on Nicole Wallace's "Deadline: Whitehouse," that Merrick Garland drop the documents case against the two co-defendants (small fish, about to be pardoned) and let America see the report?
Garland says he's withholding it to protect the process of a trial that will never happen. Focused on his department's reputation for integrity, he is actively preparing the spectacle of Trump escaping judgment, ending the case, AND deep-sixing the report. How does such a lose-lose-lose outcome build confidence in our system's effectiveness?
This is a great idea but Garland has not been especially quick on the uptake with ideas, it's one of the reasons we are in this mess in the first place.
Amen.
Well, he’s got a few days left to make his decision.
Now that he’s a convicted felon, will he be denied travel to certain countries, like Canada? There are a number of countries that apparently deny entrance to felons.
Some folks have already covered this in other places. It's true that a number of countries do deny entrance to felons, which I know because I happen to know a felon. But that felon has been to countries recently that previously denied access. I don't know whether it's because time has expired on that or what but I have very serious doubts that anybody is going to deny Trump access on the basis of being a felon.
And the fact that he’s now been officially convicted, doesn’t make a difference?
Not too much. Technically yes, but at the same time once he is in office, he could have the benefit of sovereign immunity (given to ambassadors and other federal workers in foreign countries) and most countries who want to be friendly with the US aren't going to pick a fight over that. It's not like he was convicted of murder of something (although who knows, right?)
Its important to us but in other countries they really don't care about how leaders get into power much especially big important countries like the US. Hey, we let Stalin work with us during WW2 and he certainly did a lot worse to the Soviet people than Trump did to us no matter how bad we think it is.
Fine explanation, thanks.
I believe, based on what I have read, that trump as a private citizen would not be allowed but as President of the United States, he will have no problem
I further suggest we designate this Jan. 20 as a "National Day of Mourning."
Yes! I agree. And the flags will still be at half-staff for President Carter, so it's appropriate. I refuse to turn on my TV that day.
There is also a Resistance effort to make Jan. 20th the first day of a 6-day boycott of all mainstream media (MSM) including boycotting the televised inauguration. Many of us already get our news from smaller, independent media sources like Substack so it's not difficult and would affect MSM ratings if enough people participate. Please consider it.
I'm certainly with you on the National Day of Shame on those Republican. Such a Statement should be published even if it can't pass. AOC are you listening?
Thank you for keeping olf informed of all the legal developments Joyce, we'd be lost without you.
This lawyer thinks it’s long past time for the 11th Circuit to admonish Contumacious Cannon and take her off the case once and for all.
“National Day of Shame” — celebrated by the shameless.
*Joyce,
Please explain: trump was sentenced "after" being elected. He is a felon. Why is he permitted to take office? If Dems were the ones with an indicted felon, they would do everything to stop the inauguration. There is no way to stop the inauguration? Makes no sense because a business would not hire a felon, and with 35 counts!
In order to be elected and then serve as President a person must meet certain requirements set forth in the US Constitution. Having a felony conviction (34 in fact) does not disqualify trump from being President. Sorry if someone promised you that life is always fair, they were wrong
Yeah that SO sucks, right?
Nope, no one ever promised fairness and at 70 know this well. Michael Cohen went to jail and others have been justly barred as lawyers. Outcomes have occurred but unfortunately not to trump. Still, many will take a stand for dignity and truth to oppose fear.
To be a LITTLE fair, the criminal convictions he suffered are NOT violent felonies. They were effectively business record felonies which are pretty mild. It's not even like bribery. It's doubtful that even if he wasn't elected President that he would spend much if any time in jail for THESE crimes (I am ignoring the crimes he hasn't been convicted of because those wouldn't count anyway until he is convicted)
But as pointed out, President is special anyway and even if he HAD committed serial murders AND been convicted, he could still be elected and would be permitted to serve. It's one of the weird quirks of our Constitution.
Still, something is very wrong. It's gonna be a rough road ahead.
I do not disagree that "something is wrong"! A whole LOT is wrong.
Just pointing out that unfortunately with respect to Trump there isn't much that can legally be done about it.
Jon, I appreciate your thoughts.
The nature of felonies, violent vs. nonviolent, is not determintive. In most states, a felony is a crime subject to a possible sentence of more than 1 year imprisonment and/or the imposition of a Fine. Since Trump has no prior criminal record and his age a sentence of imprisonment would had been very unusual.
That case was never going to involve jail time. There’s too many mitigating circumstances for jail to have been on the table.
Can Joe Biden order the release of the second volume of Jack Smith’s report in the interest of National Security? If people involved in that case are heading up our DOJ, we should know what, if any, crimes they committed.
National Day of Shame?
I'M IN!!!!!!!!111