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I wish there were some way to keep trump from appealing absolutely everything. His delay tactics have gotten very old. I want to see him sentenced in Manhattan, and I want to see the DC trial proceed. I wish Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss a smooth path in collecting the judgement due them. They deserve it.

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With a writ of collection, they can move some semi-trailers up to Rudi's residences and haul his belongings to the auction house. The police will stand by to ensure security.

Time to get off the pot and get 'er done.

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Yes. This is a rich people time frame. It would be nice if the courts say that Rudy's stuff will be sold right away, and that includes properties. They also should lock him up. Here are some Lincoln Project videos where Giuliani is mentioned and they have a subscriber base of 1.2 mil.

Here is Ruby Freedman talking about her experiences. https://youtu.be/wt_7gi2IIn8?si=oeuQxo_0fTTW4juN

I find it quite moving and angering. here is Jasmine Crocett sharing her thoughts about Giuliani. https://youtu.be/XzQjxuXjA0U?si=M1pGV29hwEkCzHQo

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Jasmine Crockett is a jewel!!!

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What was done to Ruby Freeman and her daughter was despicable - quite honestly only one of the illegalities done by this bunch of crooks.

I have to wonder - along with many of us - WHEN is this slimy crook going to be stopped - for good.

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Jasmine Crockett is going to have a major part in the upcoming Harris administration. The perfect role model for the next generation and they know it.

Am blown away at how voter registration is so high..........Every democracy loving lawyer must devote some time to fight back against the "Orange Plague of Evil" that is going to attempt to steal this election.

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I have long felt that Jasmine Crockett would go far. I really want to see her appreciated for who she is.

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This Lincoln Project video seems an appropriate tribute to how most of us are feeling. It is called Stress. https://youtu.be/B9XTNcneynw?si=XKGU2EubCF11fvic

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Thanks fo much for putting the latest Lincoln Project video up.So perfectly done. I did watch Kamala in Detroit earlier and she is truly the women for the moment.

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I love listening to Jasmine Crockett!! She is always so on point.

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Great news! Makes me smile. I would absolutely not be sad to see Rudy go under.

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I want to see him sentenced in Manhattan, too.

450 hours of community service would be a good start.

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Cleaning the men’s bathrooms at Grand Central Station would be a perfect place for the community service.

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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to use any facility -- bathroom or otherwise -- that TFG had "cleaned"!

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I'm with you, PeachBlossom. Assign him a life sentence of cleaning toilets in a prison far away from social medial.

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with a toothbrush?

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HAH! Can you see Ol' Bone Spurs doing any kind of community service??

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He'd have the Christian Nationalists volunteer to do it for him and fundraise while he's at it.

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I would not want him in my community doing any kind of service.

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My dream is to see the moron picking up trash on the Cross Bronx Expressway in NYC. It might be a security issue but hey, how can one tell one worker in an orange vest from another

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...Orange can scrub the prison toilets and keep his protector "Big Buddy" happy before he heads for the shower.

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Now you're talking!!

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It would be interesting to see how he could manipulate and profit from community service, which, no doubt, he would find a way.

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Call Mark Burnett to produce a new TV show? Community Service by Donald?

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I wouldn't want Giuliani's service. I want him to live a long life in isolated impotent and insolvent shame.

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Since Trump tucked the Supreme Court into his pocket, he's gotten a nice off ramp to any final conviction. And you'd best believe that if he wins in November, absolutely everything will be dismissed.

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Failure is not an option. Vote blue 🗳️🇺🇸

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Very sad, but most likely true.

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Yes. Auction it all off. "Get a piece of Rudy". "A watch than once graced the wrist of Rudy".

Maybe one of his suits could be cut up and sold by the piece. It's been done before.

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What a thorough come-down for America's mayor. I remain suspicious that Andrew Giuliani's personal standards of conduct can't be far behind his Dad's.

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I'd also love to see Letitia James and E.Jean Carroll collect their money.

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Most of the time, his appeals are tossed out. So why complain? It's his life-long habit of using the courts to bully people into giving up and going away. Only the rich can afford to face down a clown like Trump who absolutely refuses to accept loss.

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The reason I'm not happy is because his life-long habit is really obnoxious, and it denies the country its right to a speedy trial, and even more, its right to know the truth.

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They get to live on w/their stuff while they appeal until oh well look at that, they died . Stuff intact.

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Ask the question: If Trump is innocent, then why the appeals?

Get it over with so his show can go on!

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That's the part he just doesn't get. I guess he must know somewhere inside that he is guilty, but there is no way he will ever admit it. (I've been asking the same question seemingly forever.)

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He's learned how to play the judicial system masterfully. I'd worry about his followers trying imitate him except, thankfully, they couldn't afford it - unless a PAC slips them money for the unworldly attorney's fees because they want their SCOTUS to undo some of the charges from J6.

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I doubt that a PAC would slip them some money, because trump would drain the account before they could do anything else with it. And playing the judicial system the way he does is disgusting. It's clear that it's all about refusing to take responsibility for anything he's done. It boggles my mind that he thinks he's the only person in the world who has any value.

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No one wakes up to his constant attempts to delay, to get judges removed, attacks their families. If a person were non-guilty they would want to speedily move the case the trial, PRESENT THEIR PROOF OF INNOCENCE, but he has none. His attorney's are individuals he has scrapped the bottom of the barrel to find, who will actually represent him. The former president of the United States should be able to be represented by the greatest lawyers in the U.S. Every legitimate law firm in the country has made it clear they want nothing to do with him. The ONLY reason he is running is to be put into power to erase every one of his legal cases. Period.

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Agreed!

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As you said, things are going to get heated and busy. It's so good to have your professional insights into what to expect.

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Thank you!

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So, when trump loses the election, November 5 how long before he can be arrested and forced to pay the half billion or so from civil fraud case and thrown into jail on the business records fraud case - pending the sentencing on September 18. Do we have to wait for the other trials to begin until after January 6 or can the court cases start immediately since that is only ceremonial. He won't be involved in the inauguration January 20. A nice note - Kamala will be inaugurated on Martin Luther King Day - a Federal Holiday.

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And most likely by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, for an added blessing!!! 🔥

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It is the most important election in our lives. Thank you Joyce!

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Make the election a blue tsunami.

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As Joyce notes, SDNY Judge Alvin Hellerstein rejected Trump's claim that allegations in the then hush money indictment involved official duties, writing in July 2023, "The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that the matter was a purely a personal item of the president — a cover-up of an embarrassing event. Hush money paid to an adult film star is not related to a president's official acts. It does not reflect in any way the color of the president's official duties."

In order to be able to properly refile the long-shot motion for removal, Trump would have to get the DA to sign off on the request or obtain "leave" for it from Justice Merchan. The chances of either are slim to none IMO. More pasta against the wall.

I suggest the chances are the same for Merchan vacating the conviction based on the SCOTUS immunity ruling and even the appellate court considering that decision before sentencing. Appeals in NYS criminal cases (and elsewhere) are not normally allowed before sentencing, since that along with the conviction represent the final judgment in a case. Doesn't mean Trump won't try in an effort to ensure more delay. But, both Merchan and the appellate court have already shown they don't suffer motions ostensibly for delay gladly, and have so ruled quickly.

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Don't underestimate the ability of SCOTUS to put a blanket over Trump dumpster fires for rest of Trump's life.

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Once the Federalist Society finds Trump expendable --- and losing a second time should do it --- Trump will no longer be protected. Alito and Thomas may also decide retirement is the better part of valor, rather than face even talk of impeachment or the imposition of changes to the Court.

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Thomas and Alito will go out feet first. SCOTUS reform a necessity, Uncle Joe (you listening?).

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I want The Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation to be brought down to their knees as well as Alito and Thomas. Then I want Barrett and especially Kavanaugh heavily investigated. I feel there is no doubt that Leonard Leo or Harlan Crow paid Kav’s debts.

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Losing a second time is the key. The electoral college has become a football

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What about Heritage and their links to the Trumpian milita's? These GIJoe-toy soldier sandbox warriors are trigger happy and ready to go!!! By the looks of it......voter line ups are going to be miles long........they should stay home and play Risk.

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When Kamala wins and the Dems have the Senate and the House, Alito and Thomas will be thrown off the Court. Then things will start to improve.

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Scrotum MUST BE REFORMED ASAP!!!

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Like former President Barrack Obama said, VOTE That is the only Answer!

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I'll vote Sept 20 in Virginia!

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As soon as my absentee ballot arrives. Wondering how Youngkin will try to influence our election.

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He'll try. His moral authority was long ago flushed.

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He showed us during his campaign. Terry failed us by his arrogance, as though he had it in the bag. Hillary showed some of that too.

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Yes. Calling opposing potential voters "Deplorables" will go down in history of campaigning as one of the great examples of foot-in-mouth disease.

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His DOE is up to its neck in trying to destroy public education. GOTV for down ballot races!

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Just think how a snake would react. You certainly picked a big LOSER!

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Who picked a big LOSER and who is he or she?

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Register more Democrats.

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I think of black ants when I read these articles about Trump. If there is a little crack of daylight anywhere, his legal team will try it. Why would anyone be proud of this man for being uncontrollable? It is part of his pathology, the little boy who needs to spend time in the corner for not listening. Thank you Joyce for digesting this all for us.

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Precisely!

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I keep sayin' in their guts, they know he's nuts.

MAGAT grandmas for Kamela. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crMe-O10j9g

Republican voters against Trump. https://rvat.org/

Evangelicals for Harris. https://www.evangelicalsforharris.com/

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I hope the judge takes all of Rudy colludy’s assets and hands them on a silver platter to Ruby and Shaye with his blessing they can clean the funk of cigars out of his condos and furniture, his collection of World Series rings, Rolex watches and whatever he can get out of his personal bank accounts. The NY condo has been on the market for years but nobody has wanted that gaudy place. Might be different under new owners and gaudy removed.

I don’t believe in violence but dang why couldn’t that guy have hit TFG instead of the innocent attendee. He wouldn’t need to use the right side of his brain cause he has no emotions other than hate.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Merchan sentences him to prison and remands him immediately. Can that even be done like in L&O SVU? Honestly the rich don’t need to be released on bail plus what happens if TFG loses and his next coup fails? He’ll be on the first jet to a country that doesn’t extradite.

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I love that they are going for the World Series Rings, which clearly mean the world to Rudy Colludy

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Rudy Colludy!!!

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It’s a huge wish of mine that Merchan take one for the team.

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Yes, he will try to steal the election again if he loses. He has learned through the actions of the Supreme Court in their delays and then decisions on immunity that they have him covered. He has learned that his delay tactics work. He has learned that he can do as he pleases. He has learned these things from the actions of those around him and the justice system itself, just like many of my former clients with severe behavior problems learned from the actions and inactions of the people around them that these problem behaviors worked.

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But he won't be President when he loses. He won't have access to the levers of power he had four years ago, even if his creatures are spread all over the Federal and local governments. And it might just happen that if he tries to incite another insurrection President Biden might invoke some of the powers SCOTUS just confirmed to go ahead and Lock. Him. Up. Put him in the orange jumpsuit and let him appeal until Hell freezes over. Delay that!

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I agree entirely ... Trump does not have ANY of the resources he had last time, at least at the federal level.

However I expect Team Trump has primed every County Election Supervisor in the 6-8 swing states to simply refuse to certify any Harris-win results by the "safe harbour" date (around 14 December). That is the greatest threat to a Harris Electoral College win I think - forcing the decision to a Republican (state delegation majority) House.

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With a corrupt, accountable to nobody, immunity granting SCOTUS to back him up.

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Please know that Marc Elias and his brilliant team have joined forces with the DNC. If you are not following him on Democracy Docket, you should. https://www.democracydocket.com/

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Great thought, James.

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John, I appreciate your comments. Seems like he learned at a very young age how to beat the system, thanks to the influence of some family members (not siblings, as far as I know), especially in the way his father treated others?

On the other hand, how did he learn to make millions of naive idiots worship the ground he walks on, kiss his ring and worst of all, give him their hard-earned money, expecting nothing.in return?

Although I have only three college credits in psychology, I think I understand what you mean about severe behavior problems learned from others. He's like a huge orange sponge, absorbing all that's bad in people, instead of positive and helpful things.

We have to expect that those things he did the last time were a piece of cake, compared to what he has up for his sleeve in November. He may not be book smart, but he has learned many things from his friends who lead our adversarial nations. We're seeing more "bots" (AIs, perhaps?) stirring up angry discussions regarding political articles posted online.

Since he promises to make our lives miserable whether he wins or loses, do you worry about him ever having access to the nuclear codes? Do you think he learned a lot of that aggressiveness from playing games with war toys when he was growing up? Assuming that he had someone to play with, that is.

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In addition to the keys to our nuclear arsenal, I worry if the countries to which he's sold classified documents, (perhaps stolen to keep him in office?) the case of which Judge Cannon dismissed, now have enough damaging information to cause World War Three.

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David, I've thought a lot about that, too. Do you remember a while back when that tape was revealed in which you can hear Trump discussing a classified document about Iran with a staffer and reporter, knowing they weren't cleared to see it, and then they laugh about it?

Makes me wonder how many others without any authority to see or hear about any classified documents have discussed them with Trump, and how many of these documents have been sold (and may still be available, at the right price) or given to our adversaries. This is NOT the kind of person we want to see within 100 miles of the White House.

Speaking of sharing documents with those not cleared to handle them, I wonder what the reaction would be if Harris mentioned that incident if/when they have a debate. If they don't have a debate, would if help if she added a little snippet of that discussion in her ads, especially since his very favorite judge in the entire universe will never hear that case?

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And never forget the powerful hand of Mitch McConnell operating behind the throne to wrest power back into the hands of the hard right. Denying Obama his pick for a Justice and nominating the 3 Justices under Trump. Nominating other hard right Judges around the country like the ideologues Aileen Cannon and Matthew Kacsmaryk in Texas. It's been a dumpster fire for our freedoms.

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And haven’t we all learned (infuriating bit by bit) that America needs a reboot…

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Thanks for keeping us informed, Joyce, and distilling the essential legal news, sprinkled with glimpses of your chickens et al. You are greatly appreciated. Stay safe!

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Joyce, first of all, welcome back from your trip! How on earth were you able to overcome jetlag and put all of this information together, while unpacking everything ..... and of course, giving your furry and feathered children great big hugs?

Way off topic here, but I have to ask, were you able to buy some beautiful yarns while you were in Scotland?

Anyway, thank you for sharing all of this information. I appreciate the many hours you put into making this so easy to understand. I'm going to print the chart and put it on my refrigerator door (IF I can find room) so I don't miss anything.

The biggest gross-out was that J6 invitation. Nothing says "Yes, the J6 WAS an insurrection, and yes, I WAS involved in it!" more than that particular piece of paper or cardboard (probably used the backs of his/OUR classified documents). I wonder if he invited Mr. Pillow, Barr, or even Pence?

Glad to have you home.

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Joyce, you won’t believe what just happened. I posted your Substack on FakeBook with trumps interview quote as part of the header to your post. FB REMOVED it as going against its “community standards as SPAM”! I’ve got the screenshot. Of course I protested the removal so we’ll see what happens from here. This is the second time they’ve pulled this with your Substack.

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Just had Facebook remove my post of Joyce’s substack, for the same reason! This is the second time this has happened to my sharing of one of Joyce’s substacts. I have asked for a review!!!

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Yep. Same.

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When we post Joyce's material on FB, it's SPAM, but when right-wing extremists post their hatred and vitriol on Twitter, it's welcomed.

Please help make it make sense.

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One name: Musk(rat).

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If anyone asks, we'll be able to tell our grand kids that we were there when the modern day Nero tried to fell our republic.

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I've often marveled at the fact that no matter how crazy it has been, we live in historic times.

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Impossible to do at this time.

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This has happened me twice. FB says I’m seeking clicks and likes, as if that’s not what all influencers are after

I’ve started adding a note to my Shares that I’m doing so for public awareness. I’m thinking also of adding a disclaimer “please don’t like this link”

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Are you posting a link? Could you copy and paste sections or summarize in your own words? (Don't have a FB account myself, so I don't know how posting on it works.)

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I post the link. I do have a workaround though. I just go to Joyce’s FB page and share from there.

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Wow. That's interesting to find out. I wonder if you ever see FB postings favoring trump?

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Controlling a president is so alien a concept in the American system. First of all, what has happened to the concept of a public servant? Someone who seeks elected office so that they can accomplish the will of the people. Biden said, and I believe that history will prove, that he seeks an office so that he can leave the country a bit better off.

Secondly, TFG seeks to obliterate our system of checks and balances, something that is fundamental to our constitution. He’s already got the SCOTUS in his pocket and the MAGA faction of Congress will do or say anything to support him in the naive belief that they will receive personal gain and power.

We must stop feeding the power hungry. They have no concept of public service, ethics, or greater good.

I think a very telling moment was when TFG and John Kelly visited Arlington. I believe they were standing by Kelly’s son’s grave. TFG asked, I believe sincerely, why he did it, why this young man was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for his country? He has no idea what it means to think about someone else.

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"Someone who seeks elected office so that they can accomplish the will of the people."

Call me an old cynic, but I think a BIG majority of those who try to get elected are not doing it for "public service" or honorable reasons - they like the income, the career requiring no obvious qualifications, the power, the status, the unending deference from people who are much smarter than they are, the chauffeur-driven black cars, the attention of starry-eyed female interns, the invites to the coolest parties, and the best seats at the theatre. And the post-office perks, with pensions and health care for life. And for a healthy minority of them, the graft and corrupt money.

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That is not cynical. It is simply the truth. The moral turpitude begins early in this late capitalism with a mass education system rigged to financially reward sociopathic Winner Takes All types. By the time individuals become adults those who are emotionally mature will have been socially sidelined one way or another. Unless they come from wealth, in which case they can make a career pointing out the faults of society without existential or physical risk, changing none of the fundamentals.

In a society built upon such an imbalanced foundations ‘things fall apart’. Writing about how corrupted our societal structures have become, even if we are powerless to prevent the unfolding corrosion is helpful🐈‍⬛

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"Bankruptcy" in the US obviously doesn't mean what it means in other common law jurisdictions. We - the unwashed inhabitants of lesser democracies - would expect all of Mr Giuliani's assets to have come under the control of a trustee in bankruptcy from the day he was declared bankrupt, and his creditors might already have received part payment of hits debts. In Oz he could keep his clothes, bed, chair, fridge, TV and phone, $4K worth of tools, a car worth $9K and hair dye. No championship rings, no condos.

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As a fellow Oz citizen, I indeed have been puzzled that Our Rudi could keep several million dollars worth of serious real estate out of the mix. But I don't think he requires $4K worth of tools - is he a carpenter as a day job?

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Gold-plated sharpie engraved with the initials "DJT" would be about all.

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I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution when I entered government service. So did Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.

Two of us adhered to our oath. Trump did not.

Our Founding Fathers, at the Constitutional Convention, never imagined that a president would trash the Constitution—nor that the Supreme Court might be supportive of such action.

Vote to support our Constitution on November 5th.

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"Our Founding Fathers, at the Constitutional Convention, never imagined that a president would trash the Constitution—nor that the Supreme Court might be supportive of such action."

With the greatest respect, the Constitution is a very flawed document ... written by gentlemen for gentlemen I guess - they all wore perfumed wigs after all. But it's really weak and flawed.

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Ian The nice thing about Substack is that well-informed individuals can exchange opinions. Personally I agree with William Gladstone that ‘the American Constitution is the finest political document ever written.’

If you have a chance, I suggest that you read Catherine Drinker Bowen’s MIRACLE AT PHILADELPHIA. The Articles of Confederation had failed, America was broke, and Shay’s Rebellion and other disturbances threatened to destroy the unity of 13 states.

The Declaration of Independence had mirrored the ideals of John Locke. At the Constitution Convention, under George Washington’s eye, some of the most extraordinary political compromises were devised that resulted in the survival of our country.

Lots has happened in the world since 1787. Amendments have permitted some adjustments to our Constitution. However, for its time it was, and remains, extraordinary.

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“Who ever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election where you have every right to do it … ”

At least this time Trump isn't the incumbent president, so his ability to "interfere" is significantly curtailed ... one hopes.

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I saw that clip too. It's scary what trump's sheep herd can get used too.

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