Tomorrow morning, jury selection begins in the case of the leader and four members of the Oath Keepers group, indicted on seditious conspiracy and other charges. The trial itself, with opening statements, is expected to begin later in the week, and could have serious implications for Trump.
I hope they are all found guilty. I watched the coup attempt on tv as it was unfolding. I watched trump incite the offenders to action. I watched the rioters attack the Capital Police and I watched for hours while no help came. They are guilty of seditious conspiracy and should be found guilty. They should face the maximum penalty the law allows. I watched many of our elected leaders in fear for their lives while other of our elected leaders side with the conspirators. It was a disgraceful day in our history.
You keep a fast pace JV. Thank you for details about the upcoming trials. I looked at the faces of those immigrants who were recently herded off to Martha’s Vineyard having just fled Venezuela under very harsh conditions and I applauded them for their strength and courage and hopes for a better life. They risked everything. The Rhodes gang however are followers of a myth that belonging to a lie will somehow purify them as long as they don’t look back that is. I’m sad for all of them that they got it so wrong.
Joyce--Dr Heather Cox Richardson covered some history on knitting and how was used to send messages like during French Revolution time. Here’s the talk https://fb.watch/fOBm-9zZz9/
Joyce, do you ever wish that they would call you back for cases like this? I I would love to see that. This trial is so important, if they all get off scot free, then that gives others permission to do the same thing. I know the wheels of justice turn slowly, but in cases like this, I wish we could spin those wheels a little faster. Back to my knitting. I did my first bootie...
Why can't the Oath Keepers guilty verdict not only include lengthily penal servitude but also permanent deportation into a foreign authoritarian government and loss of American citizenship since they obviously hate America's democratic form of governance?
If some or all of these people are found guilty, is it possible to taint any others who can be shown to have conspired with them, and perhaps prohibit those people from holding office? Thinking of the Gubernatorial Pa. Race, some senators or house members, or even Trump or people in his administration.
At the same time, is it possible to extend the same consequences if convictions happen with the fake elector scheme?
Thank you JWV for the informative assessment of what is happening and why the wheels of justice are grinding so slowly. I realize that Trump evaded impeachment twice, and that that procedure is not the same as prosecution by the DOJ. However, the adage that if you shoot the king, you'd best not miss, seems like a good reason the DOJ is taking its time to the indict the former president. This whole situation is worse than your typical Hollywood cliffhanger, thriller. If Republicans take over the House in the midterms they promise havoc on the J6 investigation, and create opportunity for DJT to proceed with his intention to get total power. This is nuts. With a belligerent, politicized SCOTUS and a MAGA GOP, what protection remains for defenders of representative democracy like Joe Biden?
I hope they are all found guilty. I watched the coup attempt on tv as it was unfolding. I watched trump incite the offenders to action. I watched the rioters attack the Capital Police and I watched for hours while no help came. They are guilty of seditious conspiracy and should be found guilty. They should face the maximum penalty the law allows. I watched many of our elected leaders in fear for their lives while other of our elected leaders side with the conspirators. It was a disgraceful day in our history.
"Stewart Rhodes, a Yale-educated lawyer" doesn't say much for Yale.
And there's a guy in Alaska who's an Oaf Meeper who just got denied the right to hold office under the
Alaskan constitution's "seditious conspiracy" clause.
Thank you, Joyce, for keeping us informed. I always look forward to your educated analysis of our current situation/s! You rock!!
Beverage of the day tomorrow, courtesy of another attorney I twitter-follow:
coke & spiritors
“Boom happened”
You are a born educator. Your articulate and thoughtful explanations of the law are incredibly helpful in understanding current legal situations.
You keep a fast pace JV. Thank you for details about the upcoming trials. I looked at the faces of those immigrants who were recently herded off to Martha’s Vineyard having just fled Venezuela under very harsh conditions and I applauded them for their strength and courage and hopes for a better life. They risked everything. The Rhodes gang however are followers of a myth that belonging to a lie will somehow purify them as long as they don’t look back that is. I’m sad for all of them that they got it so wrong.
Joyce--Dr Heather Cox Richardson covered some history on knitting and how was used to send messages like during French Revolution time. Here’s the talk https://fb.watch/fOBm-9zZz9/
Stellar explanation of a complex issue for a non-lawyer mind like mine, JV. Grazie!👍🏼
Really appreciate these well-thought-out summaries. In the words of Omar from "The Wire" -- "You come at the king, you best not miss."
Joyce, do you ever wish that they would call you back for cases like this? I I would love to see that. This trial is so important, if they all get off scot free, then that gives others permission to do the same thing. I know the wheels of justice turn slowly, but in cases like this, I wish we could spin those wheels a little faster. Back to my knitting. I did my first bootie...
Why can't the Oath Keepers guilty verdict not only include lengthily penal servitude but also permanent deportation into a foreign authoritarian government and loss of American citizenship since they obviously hate America's democratic form of governance?
If some or all of these people are found guilty, is it possible to taint any others who can be shown to have conspired with them, and perhaps prohibit those people from holding office? Thinking of the Gubernatorial Pa. Race, some senators or house members, or even Trump or people in his administration.
At the same time, is it possible to extend the same consequences if convictions happen with the fake elector scheme?
Rosh HaShanah blessings, Joyce. We are your loyal followers here in Rochester, New York.
Thank you JWV for the informative assessment of what is happening and why the wheels of justice are grinding so slowly. I realize that Trump evaded impeachment twice, and that that procedure is not the same as prosecution by the DOJ. However, the adage that if you shoot the king, you'd best not miss, seems like a good reason the DOJ is taking its time to the indict the former president. This whole situation is worse than your typical Hollywood cliffhanger, thriller. If Republicans take over the House in the midterms they promise havoc on the J6 investigation, and create opportunity for DJT to proceed with his intention to get total power. This is nuts. With a belligerent, politicized SCOTUS and a MAGA GOP, what protection remains for defenders of representative democracy like Joe Biden?