Donald Trump has 18 co-defendants in Georgia. While some of them are familiar names, others may only register dimly or be complete unknowns. But they’ll take on more importance in the next few weeks. Some of them, like David Shaker, Shawn Still, and Cathy Latham, who were among Georgia’s fake electors, show up in roles where it’s unlikely they had much, if any, direct contact with the former president. Then, there’s Mike Roman.
Nice piece on another scuzbag, Roman. He's been a dirty shyster since the 90's for those rich Koch brothers who buy politicians like Crow buys Supreme Court Justices. We have to overturn Citizens United if we win in 2024, period! Gee, I just finished reading yesterdays posting, and this one popped. Rest, Joyce. carry on
Trump’s regime was, and still is defined as a “Transnational crime syndicate masquerading as a government.” His father was in bed with the Russian mob developing Brighton Beach, and of course tRump too. Witness protection, something is needed to get folks to flip. tRump is the dictator we must defeat.
It would also be interesting to ask him which members of the House and Senate he was colluding with to overturn the election since he seems to be a central figure in that scheme.
I note in passing that Mr Trump has cancelled his much anticipated news conference scheduled for next Monday. It seems he has done this on the advice of council. Does this indicate that he finally realises just how much doo dah he’s in?
Thank you Joyce for keeping us informed. It helps a lot to have your explanations without puffery or blatherskite or regurgitated 'opinion.' Just solid facts we can trust. 💛
Back in the Nixon/Watergate era a key player, G Gordon Liddy, took a prison sentence rather than rat out his boss, as prosecutors could never shake any crucial testimony out of Liddy regarding the break-in, the "Plumbers", and any direct ties to the Nixon WH..Liddy was loyal to the core.
Now, how many in the tRump circle, from insiders to those on the periphery, would take the fall for The Don, eschewing coöperation and facing certain hard time by doing a Liddy? Meadows? Eastman? Rudy? Powell? Well, quite honestly, NONE of them. They all lack "the right stuff", and veteran prosecutors such as Fani Willis and Jack Smith can suss out weakness and fear, there is no doubt about that. In the months to come there will be changes in the indictment roll call, pre-trial pleas, etc., all strengthening the charges against tRump, "loyalty" be damned.
Sauve qui peut will be the order of the day, bank it.
He sounds like a capo taking the fifth. And while we know an accused is not to be considered guilty until convicted in a court of law.....would an innocent one use 'the fifth' in every response?
Trump is more and more getting his own words back to him. Remember “if you are innocent why take the fifth. Only the mob takes the fifth”. And HE took it. Incredible that millions of that alt right false christians maga base still do not realise what they are doing and how deep they got it from Don the Con. Pathetic.
I'm thinking about the huge savings and loan scandal back in the 80's. Many of the bank fraudsters who created the crisis had very soft landings with cushy, well-paying jobs, just as we saw with the 2007-08 crash. I imagine some of Trump's conspirators, indicted or not, will land similarly, after prison, with the GOP funders like Mercer, Koch, Crow, etc. So I hope these scumbags get long, unpleasant prison time for their treachery against democracy. Rikers?
Nice piece on another scuzbag, Roman. He's been a dirty shyster since the 90's for those rich Koch brothers who buy politicians like Crow buys Supreme Court Justices. We have to overturn Citizens United if we win in 2024, period! Gee, I just finished reading yesterdays posting, and this one popped. Rest, Joyce. carry on
Trump’s regime was, and still is defined as a “Transnational crime syndicate masquerading as a government.” His father was in bed with the Russian mob developing Brighton Beach, and of course tRump too. Witness protection, something is needed to get folks to flip. tRump is the dictator we must defeat.
It would also be interesting to ask him which members of the House and Senate he was colluding with to overturn the election since he seems to be a central figure in that scheme.
Ms Vance, you always come up with the most fascinating information. Thank you for shining a light on another criminal aiding and abetting Trump.
I note in passing that Mr Trump has cancelled his much anticipated news conference scheduled for next Monday. It seems he has done this on the advice of council. Does this indicate that he finally realises just how much doo dah he’s in?
It’s amazing how deep the rot is, and for how long it’s been simmering in the background. Thank you Joyce...
Thank you Joyce for keeping us informed. It helps a lot to have your explanations without puffery or blatherskite or regurgitated 'opinion.' Just solid facts we can trust. 💛
Back in the Nixon/Watergate era a key player, G Gordon Liddy, took a prison sentence rather than rat out his boss, as prosecutors could never shake any crucial testimony out of Liddy regarding the break-in, the "Plumbers", and any direct ties to the Nixon WH..Liddy was loyal to the core.
Now, how many in the tRump circle, from insiders to those on the periphery, would take the fall for The Don, eschewing coöperation and facing certain hard time by doing a Liddy? Meadows? Eastman? Rudy? Powell? Well, quite honestly, NONE of them. They all lack "the right stuff", and veteran prosecutors such as Fani Willis and Jack Smith can suss out weakness and fear, there is no doubt about that. In the months to come there will be changes in the indictment roll call, pre-trial pleas, etc., all strengthening the charges against tRump, "loyalty" be damned.
Sauve qui peut will be the order of the day, bank it.
He sounds like a capo taking the fifth. And while we know an accused is not to be considered guilty until convicted in a court of law.....would an innocent one use 'the fifth' in every response?
I updated the Relationship Map of the original 19 indictees with 14 new unindicted co-conspirators (including Mike Roman) today based on info from the Washington Post and the Daily Beast. Check it out! https://thedemlabs.org/2023/08/17/relationship-map-trumps-unindicted-co-conspirators-in-georgia/
Trump is more and more getting his own words back to him. Remember “if you are innocent why take the fifth. Only the mob takes the fifth”. And HE took it. Incredible that millions of that alt right false christians maga base still do not realise what they are doing and how deep they got it from Don the Con. Pathetic.
Hope Willis has lite a fire under him! Talk about an organized crime syndicate with Trump at the helm!
PROSECUTION: would you rather do 20 years or 5 years, Mr Roman?
ROMAN (diverts eyes:) what do you wanna know?
I'm thinking about the huge savings and loan scandal back in the 80's. Many of the bank fraudsters who created the crisis had very soft landings with cushy, well-paying jobs, just as we saw with the 2007-08 crash. I imagine some of Trump's conspirators, indicted or not, will land similarly, after prison, with the GOP funders like Mercer, Koch, Crow, etc. So I hope these scumbags get long, unpleasant prison time for their treachery against democracy. Rikers?
I wonder how many, and even Mike Roman are afraid for their lives or the lives of their families or friends.
I love loyalty! But Trump demands loyalty, but gives not one ounce of loyalty back. The ultimate messiah complex... from the devil himself.