If Judge Cannon was going to continue calling every ball in Trump’s favor, I’m not at all sure why she felt the need to appoint a special master to review the documents the government seized from Mar-a-Lago. We now know that when the FBI seized those documents, they found confidential, secret and top secret documents left lying around in the former president’s desk drawers and storage areas. And that’s to say nothing of all the classified folders found with their contents missing.
Andrew Weissmann agreed with Lawrence O'Donnell's question tonight as to whether Cannon was doing a good thing to not force Trump to designate and argue the "planted evidence" material until trial, in order not to create reversible error in the conviction, that he had been denied full rights to an "effective defense." He also pointed out that essentially this changed nothing regarding the outcome other than to delay it. Here's hoping he is right. He also was scathing in his denunciation of Cannon's behavior to Dearie.
Ugh. Between the sadness of the hurricane and now this, I’m angry. Will this ever end? I can hear by dad saying oh ye of little faith. It’s hard to have faith when we go backwards like this. Today I will sew and knit, restore my faith, tomorrow I will hope again. Sometimes we need a day off to process, to listen to those that know more than I and to regain hope.
Is there any action, motion that can be used to counter this, to allow DOJ investigation to continue using the documents --what would happen if they did continue? Would Cannon throw the DOJ in jail? Trump sue them? Can “the people” take some legal action since docs stolen from us? Like a class action of some sort that sues Trump or the judge for some type of fraud, infliction of distress or violation of oath that makes it too painful, costly to continue the gymnastics? Like something never done before since this all unprecedented--can anyone be creative within the rule of law to thwart corruption? Find out if judge receiving some benefit for these decisions? Or was the benefit her appointment in this 1st place?Or would any counter action just delay things further?
I echo Colleen Clary’s question. But also wonder whether what Judge Cannon is declaring by rolling back Dearie’s process is legally defensible. I am not a lawyer myself, so depend on the smart discussion here and elsewhere outlining the norms, and so far you (and others) have found her positions… questionable. If that’s the case here as well, are there plausible disciplinary steps available? To whom? And even if there were, would they be advisable!
I do believe Judge Cannon is at the very least doing a disservice to judicial legitimacy and rule of law. More and more she goes beyond being a partisan hack and into the realm of a Trump cult lackey.
Judge Cannon has shown that not everyone is treated equally under the law, more specifically, despite the popular saying, some people ARE above the law.
I’d be in jail awaiting a trail that would ultimately incarcerate me for many years.
is there any option for the Justice Dept to appeal Cannon's whole ruling at this point? if she continues to winnow away at the special master she appointed, then she will get her way after all. the 11th circuit clearly viewed her ruling with a jaundiced eye and i wonder if the DoJ has any options to get her out of the system all together?
On I’m sorry TC, I don’t have a public image, just an opinion which like yours doesn’t have to be factual or even popular but Is rather just my opinion… look it up
Well we know who Judge(?) cannon thinks is still president. Sure she also thinks it was stolen. All I can say is she must be very limber from all the back bends she has been doing. And give him a kiss
My snorkel is not long enough to survive on the sinking ship Garland’s incompetence (my opinion) has built for us. If I were Dearie, I would withdraw as special master.
I just filed a complaint with the 11th Circuit Court about Judge Cannon. If you are interested, their address is www.ca11.uscourts.gov. Type “complaint” into the search box. Please note that complaints about decisions are dismissed. I emphasized that I was complaining about abuse of the court to favor her benefactor, Trump.
Joyce, is there any recourse available to DOJ or the Judge Dearie? Or is Judge Cannon free to serve up unlimited cake to Trump?
Yup, two justice systems. Judge Dearie should resign and do so in flames... scorching Cannon. The audacity of Cannon is breathtaking
Andrew Weissmann agreed with Lawrence O'Donnell's question tonight as to whether Cannon was doing a good thing to not force Trump to designate and argue the "planted evidence" material until trial, in order not to create reversible error in the conviction, that he had been denied full rights to an "effective defense." He also pointed out that essentially this changed nothing regarding the outcome other than to delay it. Here's hoping he is right. He also was scathing in his denunciation of Cannon's behavior to Dearie.
Ugh. Between the sadness of the hurricane and now this, I’m angry. Will this ever end? I can hear by dad saying oh ye of little faith. It’s hard to have faith when we go backwards like this. Today I will sew and knit, restore my faith, tomorrow I will hope again. Sometimes we need a day off to process, to listen to those that know more than I and to regain hope.
Thank you Joyce. I am also curious as to DOJ’s next move. Are these decisions appealable?
Is there any action, motion that can be used to counter this, to allow DOJ investigation to continue using the documents --what would happen if they did continue? Would Cannon throw the DOJ in jail? Trump sue them? Can “the people” take some legal action since docs stolen from us? Like a class action of some sort that sues Trump or the judge for some type of fraud, infliction of distress or violation of oath that makes it too painful, costly to continue the gymnastics? Like something never done before since this all unprecedented--can anyone be creative within the rule of law to thwart corruption? Find out if judge receiving some benefit for these decisions? Or was the benefit her appointment in this 1st place?Or would any counter action just delay things further?
I echo Colleen Clary’s question. But also wonder whether what Judge Cannon is declaring by rolling back Dearie’s process is legally defensible. I am not a lawyer myself, so depend on the smart discussion here and elsewhere outlining the norms, and so far you (and others) have found her positions… questionable. If that’s the case here as well, are there plausible disciplinary steps available? To whom? And even if there were, would they be advisable!
I do believe Judge Cannon is at the very least doing a disservice to judicial legitimacy and rule of law. More and more she goes beyond being a partisan hack and into the realm of a Trump cult lackey.
Joyce, what justification can be offered that would support this judge? Is she a shill or simply motivates and wrong? Sandy
Judge Cannon has shown that not everyone is treated equally under the law, more specifically, despite the popular saying, some people ARE above the law.
I’d be in jail awaiting a trail that would ultimately incarcerate me for many years.
Trump walks free and there’s no doubt why.
Fabulous, Joyce!
is there any option for the Justice Dept to appeal Cannon's whole ruling at this point? if she continues to winnow away at the special master she appointed, then she will get her way after all. the 11th circuit clearly viewed her ruling with a jaundiced eye and i wonder if the DoJ has any options to get her out of the system all together?
On I’m sorry TC, I don’t have a public image, just an opinion which like yours doesn’t have to be factual or even popular but Is rather just my opinion… look it up
Well we know who Judge(?) cannon thinks is still president. Sure she also thinks it was stolen. All I can say is she must be very limber from all the back bends she has been doing. And give him a kiss
While she is at it.
My snorkel is not long enough to survive on the sinking ship Garland’s incompetence (my opinion) has built for us. If I were Dearie, I would withdraw as special master.
I just filed a complaint with the 11th Circuit Court about Judge Cannon. If you are interested, their address is www.ca11.uscourts.gov. Type “complaint” into the search box. Please note that complaints about decisions are dismissed. I emphasized that I was complaining about abuse of the court to favor her benefactor, Trump.