Twice in one day Joyce you really have been busy. Both so informative too. I really have hope that the “Teflon “ is wearing off and Tfg will after all these years be held accountable for his actions., it is long overdue.
Yes, us non-lawyers want justice to move faster, at least swing the scales and clunk him in the head. It feels like he will die of old age before we see him in an orange jumpsuit. But, YAY for justice. We love her standing tall, blindfold in place.
Greek philosopher Sextus Empiricus, wrote 'The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind small.' Sextus would have watched THIS movie with a lot of buttered popcorn.
Some of us non-lawyers, however, have been targeted by "justice" on the fast track, and/or know others who have -- because of our political activities, because we were lesbian or gay, because we were Black, because we hung out with the "wrong" crowd, or for some other reason. Or maybe we're just familiar with not-too-distant U.S. history. Over the decades I've developed due respect for due process, and gratitude for any opportunity to speak of justice without scare quotes around it.
Great point! One of the perversions of Justice shown by tfg was using the Cannon Court to plead for extraordinary equitable jurisdiction. That exists so that a person who is helpless in the face of corrupt and bigoted prosecutors can plead for fair treatment. What an awful show!
One of my favorite parts of the 11th Circuit decision is where they point out that acceding to Trump's request would basically give the targets of any authorized search the right to control or even call off the search. Reductio ad absurdum, as they say.
I'm being silly, but speaking of the color orange, if T. is incarcerated I doubt he'll be able to tan by lotions, dye his hair, or continue his comb=over. That alone should deflate his narcissism quite a bit.
TFG's life story has been one of skirting the law, breaking the law, bullying contractual partners, making liberal use of untold numbers of attorneys to delay and obfuscate standard legal/judicial processes, essentially exhausting all attempts to call him to account for his behavior. His improbable entry into politics at the highest level is simply another stage on which to act in the same predictable fashion with a different governing principles and laws. The justice system HAS failed to call him to account over literally decades of similar behavior. He has demonstrated a sort of feral genius as a petty criminal and has been rewarded in the press and Hollywood for it. So yes, many of us are beyond impatient and tired of the endless parade that circles the courthouse but never ends at it's door.
This may be a Manhattan Delight long hoped for, never anticipated, that this dude would someday go over the line and receive his comeuppance. I expect it's a bigger day in NEW YORK than when the Yankees win the pennant.
Isn't is sweet that an authoritarian movement with a narcissist dominator at the apex suddenly finds all it's delusions crumbling?
So many bad actors acted out of hubris founded on nothing more substantial than bullying and delusion.
People who thrive for power never contemplate losing it. Hence the Alice In Wonderland aspect that the transitory nature of power eludes them. Their fragile egos turn a privilege into an entitlement to rule, to settle scores and to make permanent their position.
I am very thankful for our system of laws and those dedicated to preserving our nation as envisioned and designed. If we dodge a fascist style bullet our heroes will be those who took oaths as I did at SSA where I spent 43 years: to uphold the Constitution and abide by our laws, taking seriously the consequences we face for failure to do so.
The sobering detail is that Trump, Meadows, Graham, Flynn et al were simply a bunch of rank amateurs who at this moment are still not being held accountable. We should consider ourselves fortunate their incompetence and pathetic natures made success less likely for themselves. What could happen if future usurpers were both competent and self-disciplined?
To me we need to free our politics from private money's nefarious corruption. Until the people are the primary legislative recipients, our laws will continue to be rewritten for those that covet power rather than exercise it by, of and for the people.
For me the most sobering thing is the huge number of USians who rallied around TFG and apparently remain devoted to him, despite his incompetence and the incompetence of his entourage, and especially despite the fact that he doesn't care about them, only their adulation. They're not going away. They'll be channeling their devotion on a smaller scale, perhaps to mega-MAGA preachers, and waiting for another catalyst to make them feel alive again.
I think the frightening aspect is they appear periodically (McCarthyism, Silent Majority, Tea Party) and yet most sober Americans pay them no mind when they recede. They are still there, but won't be replaced by "them" but will be by their own grandkids. There is hope.
A recent pundit theorized 40% of GOP voters are lost, 40% are flirting with authoritarianism and another 10% are more traditional.
I just finished Sarah Posner's Unholy. In this media age Trump allowed fundamentalist Christians to merge with the Alt-Right and find common cause in a bizarro world of lies and conspiracy.
Trump allowed hundreds of thousands to choke to death on a virus to show they worshiped him. That is sick.
I'd make that most *privileged* Americans, especially those privileged by race and sex. We do tend to get lulled into complacency until something like the murder of George Floyd, or Jan. 6, or the Dobbs decision kicks us in the butt. Then we (some of us anyway) read a little history and say, over and over again, "Wow, I never knew that." As far as the MAGAs being replaced by their own grandkids -- we'll see. As far as I can tell, it's their grandkids who commit many mass shootings, and for every one who goes that far over the edge there are probably thousands who are wrapped just tight enough to keep it together. And though the victims of COVID-19 have been disproportionately old(er), the victims of the opioid epidemic seem to be disproportionately young(er).
Interesting question. I've come to believe that the biggest factor (or wild card) in waking up is the willingness to be woken up. That's where privilege gets in the way: who wants to wake up if everything looks fine when you're snoozing? "Binocular vision" can help a lot: learning to recognize my lack of privilege as a woman made me much more conscious of my privilege as a white person. (IMO this helps explain why class-privileged white men often have a hard time waking up.) Diversifying one's circles and listening carefully to other people's experiences helps a lot. And reading, lots of reading.
Even though Jared Kushner was exposed in saying the virus was to damage the Blue States and harm Donald's enemies even that seem to have fallen on deaf ears.
Unbelievable! This is like a sleeping tablet. I dream of his head down in a "perp walk" and the jail bus rolling away, to the end of his shtick! Thank you for lining up all the bricks in the wall of justice set to crash on his 40 years worth, or more, of doing whatever, he wants, whenever he wants.
I dream of him stroking out live on TV while talking about the witch hunts. Maybe it will be when financial experts get to review his taxes, prove he hasn’t been under perpetual audit, and has cheated on his taxes for his lifetime.
A good fair evening to you Joyce. The clashing sounds of injustice seem to be clamoring for resolve amidst so much disinformation and hate. With sites like yours here on SubStack the word is getting out finally countering social platforms that only perpetuate darkness. An incredible resource I am so thankful to be a part of. We do need Meadows to testify. And as an aside, how are we going to get all those election deniers out of Congress? Twists and turns in the fork in the road do not deter my intention to get to the other side of 2024 fairly unscathed and upholding democracy. Thank you for important facts we need to be following. Today you went above and beyond the call for freedom and climbed the mountain top toward the justice we all seek. Thank you Joyce.
Would it be possible to bring Ms. G. Maxwell out of prison for a moment to testify against Donald? I would be very surprised if she had nothing on him.
You said, "federal resources and courts would be better suited to prosecuting, and ultimately incarcerating, if Trump is convicted, a former president."
I've been wondering how a prison, either state or federal, would go about managing a prisoner like Trump. Surely he couldn't be put in the general population where another prisoner might seek to increase their "stature" by being the one who killed an ex-president.
In addition, some of the guards, who have previously supported Trump, might seek his favor by giving him special privileges. That would be supremely galling to those of us who would like to see him given only bread and water. ;)
SuperMax Florence, CO puts prisoners in a solitary cell where they have an hour outside by themselves, and no contact with others. I would also take away phones, computers and tv. Give him all the books he previously failed to read.
Terre Haute or Colorado, Fed supermax. 23 hours a day of All Donald, just Donald, only Donald. 1 hour for exercise. That’s the cruel & unusual part.
And may God help the judge who has to read through the Habeas of the Day petitions from the ex-prez. Allowing Democrats for corrections officers. A Protection Order to keep Hillary out of the facility. Commissary must have a McDonald's Franchise for his religious dietary needs. Sigh.
Ankle bracelet at home. No one with as many state secrets to trade would be put in a general prison population. I don’t care so much about that as I do hoping there is a way to prevent TFG from ever holding public office again.
Most important is that we maintain the rule of law. I believe that years from now, long after those of us who abhor Trump and what he’s done are passed, the upholding of the rule of law in the face of resistance will be what is celebrated.
The best thing Mark Meadows ever did for the country was to hire Cassidy Hutchinson and bring her with him to the White House. Possibly the worst thing Mark Meadows ever did for his own self-interest and that of the GOP was to hire Cassidy Hutchinson and bring her with him to the White House. I could get drunk (or at least tipsy) on the irony of this.
We see the cruel hand of O'Cally's Maxim on Ontology at work: "If it sucks and you didn't expect it, it's likely Reality." Sic transit the loons of the tfg administration.
Twice in one day Joyce you really have been busy. Both so informative too. I really have hope that the “Teflon “ is wearing off and Tfg will after all these years be held accountable for his actions., it is long overdue.
Me too
Not to prolong the metaphor, but maybe all these investigations are metal spatulas being used on the Teflon pan...
Yes, us non-lawyers want justice to move faster, at least swing the scales and clunk him in the head. It feels like he will die of old age before we see him in an orange jumpsuit. But, YAY for justice. We love her standing tall, blindfold in place.
Greek philosopher Sextus Empiricus, wrote 'The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind small.' Sextus would have watched THIS movie with a lot of buttered popcorn.
Some of us non-lawyers, however, have been targeted by "justice" on the fast track, and/or know others who have -- because of our political activities, because we were lesbian or gay, because we were Black, because we hung out with the "wrong" crowd, or for some other reason. Or maybe we're just familiar with not-too-distant U.S. history. Over the decades I've developed due respect for due process, and gratitude for any opportunity to speak of justice without scare quotes around it.
Great point! One of the perversions of Justice shown by tfg was using the Cannon Court to plead for extraordinary equitable jurisdiction. That exists so that a person who is helpless in the face of corrupt and bigoted prosecutors can plead for fair treatment. What an awful show!
One of my favorite parts of the 11th Circuit decision is where they point out that acceding to Trump's request would basically give the targets of any authorized search the right to control or even call off the search. Reductio ad absurdum, as they say.
I'm being silly, but speaking of the color orange, if T. is incarcerated I doubt he'll be able to tan by lotions, dye his hair, or continue his comb=over. That alone should deflate his narcissism quite a bit.
The big shock would be if he, say, volunteers for the prison's literacy program. (He'd have to learn to read for comprehension first, of course.)
Thanks for the "double duty" today as well as the MSNBC appearance where you also did a great job as our "legal affairs docent."
Wow! You’re phenomenal. Thank you for your superior brilliance, but mostly for your work ethic and diligence!
TFG's life story has been one of skirting the law, breaking the law, bullying contractual partners, making liberal use of untold numbers of attorneys to delay and obfuscate standard legal/judicial processes, essentially exhausting all attempts to call him to account for his behavior. His improbable entry into politics at the highest level is simply another stage on which to act in the same predictable fashion with a different governing principles and laws. The justice system HAS failed to call him to account over literally decades of similar behavior. He has demonstrated a sort of feral genius as a petty criminal and has been rewarded in the press and Hollywood for it. So yes, many of us are beyond impatient and tired of the endless parade that circles the courthouse but never ends at it's door.
This may be a Manhattan Delight long hoped for, never anticipated, that this dude would someday go over the line and receive his comeuppance. I expect it's a bigger day in NEW YORK than when the Yankees win the pennant.
Well said.
Amen!
Isn't is sweet that an authoritarian movement with a narcissist dominator at the apex suddenly finds all it's delusions crumbling?
So many bad actors acted out of hubris founded on nothing more substantial than bullying and delusion.
People who thrive for power never contemplate losing it. Hence the Alice In Wonderland aspect that the transitory nature of power eludes them. Their fragile egos turn a privilege into an entitlement to rule, to settle scores and to make permanent their position.
I am very thankful for our system of laws and those dedicated to preserving our nation as envisioned and designed. If we dodge a fascist style bullet our heroes will be those who took oaths as I did at SSA where I spent 43 years: to uphold the Constitution and abide by our laws, taking seriously the consequences we face for failure to do so.
The sobering detail is that Trump, Meadows, Graham, Flynn et al were simply a bunch of rank amateurs who at this moment are still not being held accountable. We should consider ourselves fortunate their incompetence and pathetic natures made success less likely for themselves. What could happen if future usurpers were both competent and self-disciplined?
To me we need to free our politics from private money's nefarious corruption. Until the people are the primary legislative recipients, our laws will continue to be rewritten for those that covet power rather than exercise it by, of and for the people.
Overturn Citizens United!
Yes!!!!
For me the most sobering thing is the huge number of USians who rallied around TFG and apparently remain devoted to him, despite his incompetence and the incompetence of his entourage, and especially despite the fact that he doesn't care about them, only their adulation. They're not going away. They'll be channeling their devotion on a smaller scale, perhaps to mega-MAGA preachers, and waiting for another catalyst to make them feel alive again.
I think the frightening aspect is they appear periodically (McCarthyism, Silent Majority, Tea Party) and yet most sober Americans pay them no mind when they recede. They are still there, but won't be replaced by "them" but will be by their own grandkids. There is hope.
A recent pundit theorized 40% of GOP voters are lost, 40% are flirting with authoritarianism and another 10% are more traditional.
I just finished Sarah Posner's Unholy. In this media age Trump allowed fundamentalist Christians to merge with the Alt-Right and find common cause in a bizarro world of lies and conspiracy.
Trump allowed hundreds of thousands to choke to death on a virus to show they worshiped him. That is sick.
I'd make that most *privileged* Americans, especially those privileged by race and sex. We do tend to get lulled into complacency until something like the murder of George Floyd, or Jan. 6, or the Dobbs decision kicks us in the butt. Then we (some of us anyway) read a little history and say, over and over again, "Wow, I never knew that." As far as the MAGAs being replaced by their own grandkids -- we'll see. As far as I can tell, it's their grandkids who commit many mass shootings, and for every one who goes that far over the edge there are probably thousands who are wrapped just tight enough to keep it together. And though the victims of COVID-19 have been disproportionately old(er), the victims of the opioid epidemic seem to be disproportionately young(er).
Well, what has to happen to wake us up?
Interesting question. I've come to believe that the biggest factor (or wild card) in waking up is the willingness to be woken up. That's where privilege gets in the way: who wants to wake up if everything looks fine when you're snoozing? "Binocular vision" can help a lot: learning to recognize my lack of privilege as a woman made me much more conscious of my privilege as a white person. (IMO this helps explain why class-privileged white men often have a hard time waking up.) Diversifying one's circles and listening carefully to other people's experiences helps a lot. And reading, lots of reading.
Even though Jared Kushner was exposed in saying the virus was to damage the Blue States and harm Donald's enemies even that seem to have fallen on deaf ears.
Hitler used hypnotic suggestions. Just like Donald is doing.
You are a great writer. Thank you!
Unbelievable! This is like a sleeping tablet. I dream of his head down in a "perp walk" and the jail bus rolling away, to the end of his shtick! Thank you for lining up all the bricks in the wall of justice set to crash on his 40 years worth, or more, of doing whatever, he wants, whenever he wants.
I dream of him stroking out live on TV while talking about the witch hunts. Maybe it will be when financial experts get to review his taxes, prove he hasn’t been under perpetual audit, and has cheated on his taxes for his lifetime.
A good fair evening to you Joyce. The clashing sounds of injustice seem to be clamoring for resolve amidst so much disinformation and hate. With sites like yours here on SubStack the word is getting out finally countering social platforms that only perpetuate darkness. An incredible resource I am so thankful to be a part of. We do need Meadows to testify. And as an aside, how are we going to get all those election deniers out of Congress? Twists and turns in the fork in the road do not deter my intention to get to the other side of 2024 fairly unscathed and upholding democracy. Thank you for important facts we need to be following. Today you went above and beyond the call for freedom and climbed the mountain top toward the justice we all seek. Thank you Joyce.
Would it be possible to bring Ms. G. Maxwell out of prison for a moment to testify against Donald? I would be very surprised if she had nothing on him.
😂
I responded on Twitter, when does Trump get declared a vexatious litigant having to seek permission before any lawsuit is filed.
Is that even a thing?
Once again, thank you. I do feel hopeful tonight.
You said, "federal resources and courts would be better suited to prosecuting, and ultimately incarcerating, if Trump is convicted, a former president."
I've been wondering how a prison, either state or federal, would go about managing a prisoner like Trump. Surely he couldn't be put in the general population where another prisoner might seek to increase their "stature" by being the one who killed an ex-president.
In addition, some of the guards, who have previously supported Trump, might seek his favor by giving him special privileges. That would be supremely galling to those of us who would like to see him given only bread and water. ;)
SuperMax Florence, CO puts prisoners in a solitary cell where they have an hour outside by themselves, and no contact with others. I would also take away phones, computers and tv. Give him all the books he previously failed to read.
Terre Haute or Colorado, Fed supermax. 23 hours a day of All Donald, just Donald, only Donald. 1 hour for exercise. That’s the cruel & unusual part.
And may God help the judge who has to read through the Habeas of the Day petitions from the ex-prez. Allowing Democrats for corrections officers. A Protection Order to keep Hillary out of the facility. Commissary must have a McDonald's Franchise for his religious dietary needs. Sigh.
Ankle bracelet at home. No one with as many state secrets to trade would be put in a general prison population. I don’t care so much about that as I do hoping there is a way to prevent TFG from ever holding public office again.
Most important is that we maintain the rule of law. I believe that years from now, long after those of us who abhor Trump and what he’s done are passed, the upholding of the rule of law in the face of resistance will be what is celebrated.
Wow! Very impressive snapshot. You, madam have just laid to rest any and all doubts about your brilliance.
The best thing Mark Meadows ever did for the country was to hire Cassidy Hutchinson and bring her with him to the White House. Possibly the worst thing Mark Meadows ever did for his own self-interest and that of the GOP was to hire Cassidy Hutchinson and bring her with him to the White House. I could get drunk (or at least tipsy) on the irony of this.
We see the cruel hand of O'Cally's Maxim on Ontology at work: "If it sucks and you didn't expect it, it's likely Reality." Sic transit the loons of the tfg administration.