Last night Democrats saw what happens when they run on the issues. When they run on who they are, instead of running away from it, they win. Now Democrats need to take on an issue many would rather avoid: Donald Trump and the future of democracy if he’s re-elected. It may seem safer to stick to traditional kitchen table issues—don’t poke the bear—but it’s time to put the most important cards down on the table and have a serious conversation with the American people about what Donald Trump intends to do if he wins again. The writing on the wall is clear. But far too many people remain unaware of Trump’s 2025 plan, or they don’t take it seriously. People who love democracy need to make sure they do.
The mainstream media should relentlessly report what you’ve written. Instead, it’s all about his trial, his power, his high poll numbers, etc. I’ve come to detest the media for its ignorance, mediocrity, and seeming determination to give trump the White House. Everything Joyce has written should be their focus, not the trivia bs I see and hear everyday. It would also be helpful if they’d mention Joe Biden’s daily accomplishments as he works hard to undo trump’s attempts to destroy us. If I hear one more time about Joe’s age, gaffs, or low poll numbers, I may scream.
When I first learned of the "Heritage" Foundation in the 1980's, my blood ran cold a the prospect of what a well-financed, cagey, spiteful conservative group of hell-bent people could do. Now what is manifesting from them is even worse than I could have imagined. It is not just Trump folks; he just is a useful monster. The real menace is the greed of the hyper-wealthy control-mad oligarchs pulling for Trump.
So many people do not even pay attention to "politics" or say they don't know enough about "politics" to get involved. When I tell them "politics" affects every area of their lives, I am usually met with silence. I don't know how to get through to people that we are staring at the end of democracy...
I reported “Stay Strong USA”. We don’t need trolls.
I have felt that our democracy was at risk for years starting with the Bush 2 administration. Not so much with him personally, but of his supporters. And the overt racism during the Obama years. Trump was just the torch that lit the fire, brought it all out in the open. Not just open season on persons of color, but on women, the LGBTQ community, and persons who do not observe fundamentalist christianity.
Don’t be complacent. Don’t bore the young voters with economic gains, it is not being felt at this stage of their lives. We still have unfair income inequality, basic services like health care being bought by equity companies and hedge funds, housing costs unaffordable to the middle class and an unfair tax system that benefits the wealthy and screwed the middle class during the last Trump tax law changes. Address them where it affects them personally, reproductive rights, personal rights, the right to be who you are and who you love.
Our Constitution is very clear, Amendment 14, Section 3, states he should not be allowed to run again, and our Justice system should be fighting like hell to uphold the 14th, sec 3.
Question is: is this exclusively a tRump aspiration, or is "Project 2025" a blueprint for ANY Repub who may be elected president, whether in 2024 or beyond? I mean, isn't it folly to believe that if somehow tRump would disappear before or lose in 2024, tRumpism/MAGA disappears with him? What you've outlined here, and what WaPo and the Times have reported is simply the game plan of a powerful minority, funded by - amongst others - SV billionaire "libertarians", wealthy PE principals, industrialists, and that ilk, a minority virulently set against an evolving majority of Americans who have no interest in what these Republicans are selling, nor in the "values" of the far-right religious extremists, anti-abortionists, self-styled "patriotic" militias, et al who compromise the public face and shock troops of their minoritarian movement.
Frankly, "Project 2025" is sort of a latter-day "Mein Kampf", a list of grievances and a plan of attack on how to seize power, and keep it as a means to reorder society in the image of a white, "christian", hyper-capitalist State, theoretically in perpetuity. This action plan is designed to outlive tRump, who is merely a convenient vehicle and rabble-rousing figurehead behind whom the groundwork will be laid over four years for total control as outlined in "Project 2025".
So, yes, this movement can be forestalled, or even defeated, if - and ONLY if - we in the majority come out in numbers and enthusiasm as we have seen in the 2020/2022/2023 elections, and turn away these authoritarians and Know-Nothings in November, 2024, while we still have the opportunity to do so in a democratic fashion, full stop.
This could not be more serious and perhaps the most pressing issue ever in the United States and the world. Not only would Trump dismantling the United States but the world. He is a sycophant to Putin and is driving the US to support Putins intentions. With an exceptional few there is no honor in the GOP. They have dishonored their oath to preserve , protect and defend the constitution. We are not in an election cycle, we are in a war!
Why doesn't anyone in media call this person what he is? A malignant narcissistic psychopath. Engoron and Chutkan are not willing to stand up to him and have refused to do to him what anyone else would experience. The boot licking and cowardly Judge Cannon is merely a puppet. If these people are not stepping into this psychopath with the full weight of the law and judicial system behind them they are disheartening and demotivating average American citizens. Being informed of this person's insanity and those enabling him is very important. And more important are the actions of our LE and judicial system putting the full weight of the system on this person not treating him with repeated and never ending "exceptions" in avoidance of what we all see he is trying to do. It is utterly ridiculous Smith should have to file a motion telling the judge they are being manipulated by this person. It is obvious even to a tween what this person is doing. This person's behavior in court on Monday was never curtailed or punished. This IS the message being sent to the average American. This person gets to be totally abusive and no one does anything to stop him.
So it seems that we can't just defeat Trump at the polls. We have to dismantle the whole anti-democratic aparatus that he's enabled. Could that be done peacefully? Or should I get another passport and plan my family's escape?
So, yes, let's beat Trump. But let's also keep in mind that the would-be autocrats putting this roadmap together will outlast Trump. They will be back to try this again. We must also plan to defeat them, now and for the foreseeable future.
Thank you, Joyce. As has been clear to a lot of us since 2017, Trump wants to be the Putin of the USA. He no more wishes to uphold the Constitution, (which I sincerely doubt he has ever read) than he respects your Christian bible, which he held upside down in the photo shoot following his ordering tear gassing of peaceful protests by Black Lives Matter. He and the leadership of the entire q-anon, MAGA movement want a fascist dictatorship. I doubt the MAGA followers have a clue or even a dim understanding of where their movement is heading.
For some reason I do not understand, even decent elected Democrats in Congress seem afraid to uphold and invoke the Constitution. I am hopeful, at least after the elections on Tuesday, that if we can have a really good turnout next year we can put trump to bed. But we still have that fascist crowd to put down. Trump is stupid, but others in the movement are not, they are just so enthralled with themselves they see a firm dictatorship as the answer to their dreams.
And we must strip our oligarchy of a significant portion of their ill-gotten wealth to renew our Democracy for everyone.
That’s right Joyce. Enough of the legal analysis snd right to the point.
Trump is going to destroy this country snd the world. It’s out in the open and enough people are not listening. The courts are not going to stop this. Minnesota just priced it. Florida is proving it. J6 who the hell knows. The civil trial is just pissing him off.
Clearly all the Meadows, Patels, Millers etc are still actively plotting.
Voters aren’t seeing this risk that the country could easily be gone in less than one year. It’s very real.
I must have enjoyed the bliss of naivety all my life, but I never realized so much of what is done relies on the honor system and the decency of the federal workers and politicians. I was hoping the January 6 Committee would make recommendations for new laws to fill in these holes. No such luck?
If Trump wins he’ll take over the FCC and I predict within 6 months the liberal media “enemy of the people” will begin to be silenced via new draconian regulations and DOJ actions that trump will use to take MSNBC off the air, and he will also move to close down The NY Times and Washington Post. It all will be done under his authority seized under the insurrection act to silence who Trump names as dangerous enemies of the state- people like Joyce Vance, Nicolle Wallace, Rachel Maddow, Neil Katyal, Andrew Weismann, Glenn Kirschner and many more that we turn to everyday and assume they will always be there.
A new Soviet style gulag for such people who are identified as dangerously disloyal to Trump will be created and tens of thousands more will be imprisoned under his Stalinist rule.
Just close your eyes for a second and ask yourself if trump is really capable of going that far.
Thank you Joyce for a real look at what we could be facing should we ignore all the red flags in front of us. TFG has a lot of nerve thinking he can just walk all over us. He hopes to take advantage of a nation of slackers whose self interests negate any hope of our salvation. But he doesn’t really know who we are. A spirit remains steadfast and loyal to our ideals. It’s part of our DNA. And if you think our forefathers have abandoned us why not check in on the House and Senate floors and really listen hard for the men and women who fight for us every day despite the hatred and lies trying to drown out our hopes and dreams that we might finally evolve to to be the human race we were meant to be. I appreciate your steadfast belief in our power to save ourselves from oblivion. It’s now or never 🇺🇸🗽🗳️❤️
The mainstream media should relentlessly report what you’ve written. Instead, it’s all about his trial, his power, his high poll numbers, etc. I’ve come to detest the media for its ignorance, mediocrity, and seeming determination to give trump the White House. Everything Joyce has written should be their focus, not the trivia bs I see and hear everyday. It would also be helpful if they’d mention Joe Biden’s daily accomplishments as he works hard to undo trump’s attempts to destroy us. If I hear one more time about Joe’s age, gaffs, or low poll numbers, I may scream.
When I first learned of the "Heritage" Foundation in the 1980's, my blood ran cold a the prospect of what a well-financed, cagey, spiteful conservative group of hell-bent people could do. Now what is manifesting from them is even worse than I could have imagined. It is not just Trump folks; he just is a useful monster. The real menace is the greed of the hyper-wealthy control-mad oligarchs pulling for Trump.
Remain vigilant and to hell with polls.
So many people do not even pay attention to "politics" or say they don't know enough about "politics" to get involved. When I tell them "politics" affects every area of their lives, I am usually met with silence. I don't know how to get through to people that we are staring at the end of democracy...
I reported “Stay Strong USA”. We don’t need trolls.
I have felt that our democracy was at risk for years starting with the Bush 2 administration. Not so much with him personally, but of his supporters. And the overt racism during the Obama years. Trump was just the torch that lit the fire, brought it all out in the open. Not just open season on persons of color, but on women, the LGBTQ community, and persons who do not observe fundamentalist christianity.
Don’t be complacent. Don’t bore the young voters with economic gains, it is not being felt at this stage of their lives. We still have unfair income inequality, basic services like health care being bought by equity companies and hedge funds, housing costs unaffordable to the middle class and an unfair tax system that benefits the wealthy and screwed the middle class during the last Trump tax law changes. Address them where it affects them personally, reproductive rights, personal rights, the right to be who you are and who you love.
Said from an old hippie boomer.
Our Constitution is very clear, Amendment 14, Section 3, states he should not be allowed to run again, and our Justice system should be fighting like hell to uphold the 14th, sec 3.
Question is: is this exclusively a tRump aspiration, or is "Project 2025" a blueprint for ANY Repub who may be elected president, whether in 2024 or beyond? I mean, isn't it folly to believe that if somehow tRump would disappear before or lose in 2024, tRumpism/MAGA disappears with him? What you've outlined here, and what WaPo and the Times have reported is simply the game plan of a powerful minority, funded by - amongst others - SV billionaire "libertarians", wealthy PE principals, industrialists, and that ilk, a minority virulently set against an evolving majority of Americans who have no interest in what these Republicans are selling, nor in the "values" of the far-right religious extremists, anti-abortionists, self-styled "patriotic" militias, et al who compromise the public face and shock troops of their minoritarian movement.
Frankly, "Project 2025" is sort of a latter-day "Mein Kampf", a list of grievances and a plan of attack on how to seize power, and keep it as a means to reorder society in the image of a white, "christian", hyper-capitalist State, theoretically in perpetuity. This action plan is designed to outlive tRump, who is merely a convenient vehicle and rabble-rousing figurehead behind whom the groundwork will be laid over four years for total control as outlined in "Project 2025".
So, yes, this movement can be forestalled, or even defeated, if - and ONLY if - we in the majority come out in numbers and enthusiasm as we have seen in the 2020/2022/2023 elections, and turn away these authoritarians and Know-Nothings in November, 2024, while we still have the opportunity to do so in a democratic fashion, full stop.
This could not be more serious and perhaps the most pressing issue ever in the United States and the world. Not only would Trump dismantling the United States but the world. He is a sycophant to Putin and is driving the US to support Putins intentions. With an exceptional few there is no honor in the GOP. They have dishonored their oath to preserve , protect and defend the constitution. We are not in an election cycle, we are in a war!
Why doesn't anyone in media call this person what he is? A malignant narcissistic psychopath. Engoron and Chutkan are not willing to stand up to him and have refused to do to him what anyone else would experience. The boot licking and cowardly Judge Cannon is merely a puppet. If these people are not stepping into this psychopath with the full weight of the law and judicial system behind them they are disheartening and demotivating average American citizens. Being informed of this person's insanity and those enabling him is very important. And more important are the actions of our LE and judicial system putting the full weight of the system on this person not treating him with repeated and never ending "exceptions" in avoidance of what we all see he is trying to do. It is utterly ridiculous Smith should have to file a motion telling the judge they are being manipulated by this person. It is obvious even to a tween what this person is doing. This person's behavior in court on Monday was never curtailed or punished. This IS the message being sent to the average American. This person gets to be totally abusive and no one does anything to stop him.
So it seems that we can't just defeat Trump at the polls. We have to dismantle the whole anti-democratic aparatus that he's enabled. Could that be done peacefully? Or should I get another passport and plan my family's escape?
So, yes, let's beat Trump. But let's also keep in mind that the would-be autocrats putting this roadmap together will outlast Trump. They will be back to try this again. We must also plan to defeat them, now and for the foreseeable future.
Thank you, Joyce. As has been clear to a lot of us since 2017, Trump wants to be the Putin of the USA. He no more wishes to uphold the Constitution, (which I sincerely doubt he has ever read) than he respects your Christian bible, which he held upside down in the photo shoot following his ordering tear gassing of peaceful protests by Black Lives Matter. He and the leadership of the entire q-anon, MAGA movement want a fascist dictatorship. I doubt the MAGA followers have a clue or even a dim understanding of where their movement is heading.
For some reason I do not understand, even decent elected Democrats in Congress seem afraid to uphold and invoke the Constitution. I am hopeful, at least after the elections on Tuesday, that if we can have a really good turnout next year we can put trump to bed. But we still have that fascist crowd to put down. Trump is stupid, but others in the movement are not, they are just so enthralled with themselves they see a firm dictatorship as the answer to their dreams.
And we must strip our oligarchy of a significant portion of their ill-gotten wealth to renew our Democracy for everyone.
That’s right Joyce. Enough of the legal analysis snd right to the point.
Trump is going to destroy this country snd the world. It’s out in the open and enough people are not listening. The courts are not going to stop this. Minnesota just priced it. Florida is proving it. J6 who the hell knows. The civil trial is just pissing him off.
Clearly all the Meadows, Patels, Millers etc are still actively plotting.
Voters aren’t seeing this risk that the country could easily be gone in less than one year. It’s very real.
Ruth Ben-Ghiat. Please read her on Twitter.
These legal cases are meaningless now.
I must have enjoyed the bliss of naivety all my life, but I never realized so much of what is done relies on the honor system and the decency of the federal workers and politicians. I was hoping the January 6 Committee would make recommendations for new laws to fill in these holes. No such luck?
If Trump wins he’ll take over the FCC and I predict within 6 months the liberal media “enemy of the people” will begin to be silenced via new draconian regulations and DOJ actions that trump will use to take MSNBC off the air, and he will also move to close down The NY Times and Washington Post. It all will be done under his authority seized under the insurrection act to silence who Trump names as dangerous enemies of the state- people like Joyce Vance, Nicolle Wallace, Rachel Maddow, Neil Katyal, Andrew Weismann, Glenn Kirschner and many more that we turn to everyday and assume they will always be there.
A new Soviet style gulag for such people who are identified as dangerously disloyal to Trump will be created and tens of thousands more will be imprisoned under his Stalinist rule.
Just close your eyes for a second and ask yourself if trump is really capable of going that far.
There you go- now you have your answer.
This is what facism looks like.
It can happen here.
Thank you Joyce for a real look at what we could be facing should we ignore all the red flags in front of us. TFG has a lot of nerve thinking he can just walk all over us. He hopes to take advantage of a nation of slackers whose self interests negate any hope of our salvation. But he doesn’t really know who we are. A spirit remains steadfast and loyal to our ideals. It’s part of our DNA. And if you think our forefathers have abandoned us why not check in on the House and Senate floors and really listen hard for the men and women who fight for us every day despite the hatred and lies trying to drown out our hopes and dreams that we might finally evolve to to be the human race we were meant to be. I appreciate your steadfast belief in our power to save ourselves from oblivion. It’s now or never 🇺🇸🗽🗳️❤️