So, what happened today in the ongoing legal battles between Trump and the Justice Department? DOJ filed its response to Trump’s application to SCOTUS, in which Trump sought (partial) vacatur of a (partial) stay of the district court’s order granting an
I wonder if Judge Cannon can be sanctioned or even prosecuted for some of her actions during all of this. It's unclear to me (and undoubtedly many others) who oversees judicial conduct and how anything could be done without it becoming a partisan fight. Who decides when actions are inappropriate?
Is Cannon implicated in obstruction in this case because of her disregard of the law? You politely implied she is ignorant of procedures regarding lawfully seized items. I suspect she is fully aware that she is impeding a criminal investigation.
Dear Ms Vance, like many other lawyers, you analyzed the litigation assuming Trump-appointed Federalist Society judges will "apply the law," as opposed to "giving Trump what he asks for."
The widely held, sacrosanct American beliefs that "no person is above the law," is at issue. Now being tested is our country's core belief that we live under "the rule of law," [as opposed to the "whim of the KIng," or "the fiat of the fuhrer"].
Justice Clarence (Ginni's co-conspirator) Thomas should have rejected Trump's appeal out of hand, or recused himself. Having done neither, we see that SCOTUS is willing to ignore the rule of law. If the 5 Trump puppets on the Supreme Court give any credence to the appeal, (1) the world will know they are in Trump's pocket , (2) the Court's credibility will be forever lost, (3) our allies will be even more reluctant to share intelligence with the U.S.A., and (4) they will have established that Trump is free to ignore laws. At least we can rely on Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson to hold their feet to the fire and embarrass them for their perfidy.
Thank you, Joyce. I keep scratching my head and thinking these documents HAVE already been compromised and shared, and I’m left to wonder why this isn’t being treated more urgently.
Good evening/early morning JV. Things are unfolding fast and furious. Thanks for the update. As I follow your explanations I gain more and more respect for your analyses as things twist and turn around this saga of ill gotten gain and at what cost and to whom? I’m holding my breath for Friday.
Joyce, you make the legalize for us non-attorney types so easily understood. I can see how your law students would give you 5 star grades as a professor. Thank you for all you do.
Thank you so much, Ms. Vance, for clarifying the nitty gritty of the legal issues involved here. What I get out of your explanation is that Trump is doing everything he (actually his lawyers) can do to delay being indicted for criminality. If the Republicans win the House or both House and Senate, Trump hopes/expects the Republican controlled Congress will cancel the investigation and do whatever they can to absolve Trump of any wrong doing. Ouch. Has anyone else in American history gotten away with this much bull manure to fertilize the stinkweed of illiberalism?
whoa. this really is a narrow and obscure request by dumpty's lawyers. so much losing...
I started reading the glossary of terms and my eyes started crossing. I can only imagine how folks are following this whole episode as I can barely understand what would possess any litigator to make such arguments. Not the A team of federal practice bar, obviously.
Thank you, Joyce. I’m drawing diagrams of your legal terms (in boxes) connected by arrows flowing in the direction of legal movements. Your breakdown exposes Cannon for who she is. To say she’s incompetent or having slept through law lectures, I think, is too generous. Taken into the context of the moment, her rulings appear to collude (with great intention) with Trump’s obstructionism. I think we are all waiting for her come-up-pins, peer shunning, justified by the 11th Circuit ruling, or removal from the bench ... Clarence Thomas must find himself in a personal pickle. Thank you, Carol in Richmond, VA
Love it when your Discourse is in my inbox first thing in the morning. I sponge up the information that you have turned from legalese to english. Thanks.
Whew! And I am a lawyer! That said, thank you for the clear and concise procedural summary. Scooted me out of retirement for a moment there and reminded me why I loved practicing law.
I wonder if Judge Cannon can be sanctioned or even prosecuted for some of her actions during all of this. It's unclear to me (and undoubtedly many others) who oversees judicial conduct and how anything could be done without it becoming a partisan fight. Who decides when actions are inappropriate?
Is Cannon implicated in obstruction in this case because of her disregard of the law? You politely implied she is ignorant of procedures regarding lawfully seized items. I suspect she is fully aware that she is impeding a criminal investigation.
Thank you, Joyce, for keeping us informed.
Thanks once again for bringing clarity to take us out of the ver-mist.
Dear Ms Vance, like many other lawyers, you analyzed the litigation assuming Trump-appointed Federalist Society judges will "apply the law," as opposed to "giving Trump what he asks for."
The widely held, sacrosanct American beliefs that "no person is above the law," is at issue. Now being tested is our country's core belief that we live under "the rule of law," [as opposed to the "whim of the KIng," or "the fiat of the fuhrer"].
Justice Clarence (Ginni's co-conspirator) Thomas should have rejected Trump's appeal out of hand, or recused himself. Having done neither, we see that SCOTUS is willing to ignore the rule of law. If the 5 Trump puppets on the Supreme Court give any credence to the appeal, (1) the world will know they are in Trump's pocket , (2) the Court's credibility will be forever lost, (3) our allies will be even more reluctant to share intelligence with the U.S.A., and (4) they will have established that Trump is free to ignore laws. At least we can rely on Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson to hold their feet to the fire and embarrass them for their perfidy.
Thank you, Joyce. I keep scratching my head and thinking these documents HAVE already been compromised and shared, and I’m left to wonder why this isn’t being treated more urgently.
Thank you for clarifying what is going on with this appeal.
Good evening/early morning JV. Things are unfolding fast and furious. Thanks for the update. As I follow your explanations I gain more and more respect for your analyses as things twist and turn around this saga of ill gotten gain and at what cost and to whom? I’m holding my breath for Friday.
vermischt, und verkokt!
Joyce, you make the legalize for us non-attorney types so easily understood. I can see how your law students would give you 5 star grades as a professor. Thank you for all you do.
I suspect Cannon is fully aware that she thinks she is protecting FPOTUS for whatever reason but exposing her ineptitude in this risky process.
Thank you so much, Ms. Vance, for clarifying the nitty gritty of the legal issues involved here. What I get out of your explanation is that Trump is doing everything he (actually his lawyers) can do to delay being indicted for criminality. If the Republicans win the House or both House and Senate, Trump hopes/expects the Republican controlled Congress will cancel the investigation and do whatever they can to absolve Trump of any wrong doing. Ouch. Has anyone else in American history gotten away with this much bull manure to fertilize the stinkweed of illiberalism?
whoa. this really is a narrow and obscure request by dumpty's lawyers. so much losing...
I started reading the glossary of terms and my eyes started crossing. I can only imagine how folks are following this whole episode as I can barely understand what would possess any litigator to make such arguments. Not the A team of federal practice bar, obviously.
Thank you, Joyce. I’m drawing diagrams of your legal terms (in boxes) connected by arrows flowing in the direction of legal movements. Your breakdown exposes Cannon for who she is. To say she’s incompetent or having slept through law lectures, I think, is too generous. Taken into the context of the moment, her rulings appear to collude (with great intention) with Trump’s obstructionism. I think we are all waiting for her come-up-pins, peer shunning, justified by the 11th Circuit ruling, or removal from the bench ... Clarence Thomas must find himself in a personal pickle. Thank you, Carol in Richmond, VA
Love it when your Discourse is in my inbox first thing in the morning. I sponge up the information that you have turned from legalese to english. Thanks.
Whew! And I am a lawyer! That said, thank you for the clear and concise procedural summary. Scooted me out of retirement for a moment there and reminded me why I loved practicing law.