Wow! Joyce. So much detail and I understand criminal law to an extent. Will be rereading this column. What’s amazing is that a former president is in court for these crimes and also leading some polls re: the next election. Everyone in America should be required to read your words!
I'm going to have to re-read this post. It is extremely detailed and I'm not versed in 'legalese'. Even so, I did gain from it that SC Smith and his team have to be laser focused to deal with all this, and that they must have patience and restraint the likes of which I do not. I'm grateful for them, as well as you, Joyce. Your explanations, even though it takes more than one reading, are a great replacement to network news. Thank you.
Tell me again, he is not being treated differently. I am a great admirer of yours Joyce but there is so much of what I think of as BS he is getting away with. Did the Rosenburg's get this kind of treatment before they were hung; to this day many believing his wife was innocent? I am sick and tire of our government giving this SOB the long stretch of the law. The only reason is, he is running again; the only other possible reason is again our AG's interference not wanting to look political, while looking political. No, I am not a lawyer and I know it shows, but this whole thing re Trump is beyond disgusting and as far as I am concerned a betrayal of the U. S. Constitution and the American people. Sick of the whole damn thing. And as this continues the Republicans will only get worse seeing him get away with so much.
God, just let the Fatal Hamberder make all this moot - a nice, public, fatal massive myocardial farction, preferably mid-rant at the next Nuremberg Rally, in front of the drooling MAGAts, flopping around on the stage like a beached whale.
Today you are certainly doing the heavy lifting Joyce and making it seem so easy. I always reread your newsletters. An online classroom in real time. How fortunate to be part of an American learning curve that is so crucially important. Unwavering we will prevail. Thank you for your courage and always remembering to wear your hard hat 🇺🇸🗽🗳️📚❤️
Joyce, thanks for sticking with us! Gets so legally involved and confusing. WE can believe what you describe and tell us. Nice being “spoon fed,” my dear!
"All good evidence is prejudicial in the sense that it tends to prove the defendant’s guilt." As a young boy I recall this was one of my mother's favorite arguments, as "because I told you so" began to wear thin with me. Alas, now she's a Trump Talibangelical and evidence no longer matters. Where did I go wrong in the raising of my parents?
What you have written is stunning. It is fascinating and I am now settling in to read the motions before we hear back from you today on Jack Smith’s response. Your detail is amazing. Thank you Joyce. I am absolutely amazed that you have already read the motions and set all of this forth for us. I appreciate your mentioning that Jack Smith had carefully covered in his indictments that Trump could always use his first amendment rights to sprout forth talking points (lies). I noticed that in the indictment. Trump is on the campaign trail trying to convince people that his first amendment rights have been trumped on and that’s a bunch of hooey. We are in this together and we are your best 101 students! (We have the advantage of having the answers before the readings:) Thank you. Just one question about Trump’s attorneys, saying that Biden had wanted Trump to be indicted according to news reports. That can’t be entered into any court can it? I don’t remember seeing that anywhere. I recall Biden saying he was staying out of any business having to do with his attorney general and Trump. And what news reports? The Trump aligned Fox News organization was spewing falsehoods putting people like Powell’s on their newscasts. In fact, there has already been a court case that has cost Fox News a lot of money for lying about voting machines, and they fired one of their main newscasters. So that would put some shade on anything Fox had to say. So what news reports are they talking about where a Biden wanted Trump prosecuted? I think he wanted people who destroyed our Capitol and interfered with our vote. confirmation process to be prosecuted. Biden has been extremely discreet in not accusing Trump of fraud.
Ms. Joyce Vance: Your writing is so accurate and precise.
You might consider saving all of these materials you send us; collate them; edit and expand them; and publish your learning as either a West-Publishing Hornbook or a Casebook for law students.
As several famous pundits have observed, former President Trump’s defense strategy isn’t primarily intended to be evaluated in law. It’s mostly crafted to motivate his devoted followers. Just what actions they will eventually be inspired to undertake is unpredictable.
Thank you as well, Joyce. It will take a few reads to absorb it all. I'll also be watching you and everyone else on msnbc. Later...chickens, dog, cat, knitting, and a glass of wine to decompress and relax a bit after all this writing and explaining.
Deep Dive: Trump's Motions to Dismiss the D.C. Prosecution
Wow! Joyce. So much detail and I understand criminal law to an extent. Will be rereading this column. What’s amazing is that a former president is in court for these crimes and also leading some polls re: the next election. Everyone in America should be required to read your words!
I'm going to have to re-read this post. It is extremely detailed and I'm not versed in 'legalese'. Even so, I did gain from it that SC Smith and his team have to be laser focused to deal with all this, and that they must have patience and restraint the likes of which I do not. I'm grateful for them, as well as you, Joyce. Your explanations, even though it takes more than one reading, are a great replacement to network news. Thank you.
Tell me again, he is not being treated differently. I am a great admirer of yours Joyce but there is so much of what I think of as BS he is getting away with. Did the Rosenburg's get this kind of treatment before they were hung; to this day many believing his wife was innocent? I am sick and tire of our government giving this SOB the long stretch of the law. The only reason is, he is running again; the only other possible reason is again our AG's interference not wanting to look political, while looking political. No, I am not a lawyer and I know it shows, but this whole thing re Trump is beyond disgusting and as far as I am concerned a betrayal of the U. S. Constitution and the American people. Sick of the whole damn thing. And as this continues the Republicans will only get worse seeing him get away with so much.
God, just let the Fatal Hamberder make all this moot - a nice, public, fatal massive myocardial farction, preferably mid-rant at the next Nuremberg Rally, in front of the drooling MAGAts, flopping around on the stage like a beached whale.
Thanks for this Joyce! It is a LOT! Maybe tomorrow before more of this, we need some chickens?
Thank you Joyce!
Today you are certainly doing the heavy lifting Joyce and making it seem so easy. I always reread your newsletters. An online classroom in real time. How fortunate to be part of an American learning curve that is so crucially important. Unwavering we will prevail. Thank you for your courage and always remembering to wear your hard hat 🇺🇸🗽🗳️📚❤️
Joyce, thanks for sticking with us! Gets so legally involved and confusing. WE can believe what you describe and tell us. Nice being “spoon fed,” my dear!
"All good evidence is prejudicial in the sense that it tends to prove the defendant’s guilt." As a young boy I recall this was one of my mother's favorite arguments, as "because I told you so" began to wear thin with me. Alas, now she's a Trump Talibangelical and evidence no longer matters. Where did I go wrong in the raising of my parents?
What you have written is stunning. It is fascinating and I am now settling in to read the motions before we hear back from you today on Jack Smith’s response. Your detail is amazing. Thank you Joyce. I am absolutely amazed that you have already read the motions and set all of this forth for us. I appreciate your mentioning that Jack Smith had carefully covered in his indictments that Trump could always use his first amendment rights to sprout forth talking points (lies). I noticed that in the indictment. Trump is on the campaign trail trying to convince people that his first amendment rights have been trumped on and that’s a bunch of hooey. We are in this together and we are your best 101 students! (We have the advantage of having the answers before the readings:) Thank you. Just one question about Trump’s attorneys, saying that Biden had wanted Trump to be indicted according to news reports. That can’t be entered into any court can it? I don’t remember seeing that anywhere. I recall Biden saying he was staying out of any business having to do with his attorney general and Trump. And what news reports? The Trump aligned Fox News organization was spewing falsehoods putting people like Powell’s on their newscasts. In fact, there has already been a court case that has cost Fox News a lot of money for lying about voting machines, and they fired one of their main newscasters. So that would put some shade on anything Fox had to say. So what news reports are they talking about where a Biden wanted Trump prosecuted? I think he wanted people who destroyed our Capitol and interfered with our vote. confirmation process to be prosecuted. Biden has been extremely discreet in not accusing Trump of fraud.
Well done, as always, Joyce. Lock him up!
Ms. Joyce Vance: Your writing is so accurate and precise.
You might consider saving all of these materials you send us; collate them; edit and expand them; and publish your learning as either a West-Publishing Hornbook or a Casebook for law students.
Your writing is that good!
As several famous pundits have observed, former President Trump’s defense strategy isn’t primarily intended to be evaluated in law. It’s mostly crafted to motivate his devoted followers. Just what actions they will eventually be inspired to undertake is unpredictable.
Thank you as well, Joyce. It will take a few reads to absorb it all. I'll also be watching you and everyone else on msnbc. Later...chickens, dog, cat, knitting, and a glass of wine to decompress and relax a bit after all this writing and explaining.
Thank you Joyce. I am grateful that you are you and I love the deep dives!
It does help to be a retired attorney. Thanks for the explanation!