In a Tuesday afternoon surprise, Jack Smith went to a grand jury in the District of Columbia to obtain a superseding indictment in the election interference case.
I want to begin a petition to demand that in the time of Trump’s passing, that not only he not be buried in Arlington, but that he is buried on land non contiguous to the United States and I thought his golf course in Scotland might be a good repository. But you, Joyce Vance, might take issue with using beautiful Scotland to get rid of the decrepit remains.
His sons will build a glorious tomb with a turnstile and charge admission; somewhere near his presidential library with no books and a tacky gift shop. Don't worry, you won't have to go.
That actually is another ability, learning through graphic novels. That gift may mean a disability, though, for processing written texts.. His teachers inadvertently set him on a course for failure before he left kindergarten.
Dianne, when you were in elementary school, did they periodically give students reading tests to show their "reading level" compared to their grade? Trump's couldn't possibly have been more than a second grade reading level, even if he were in fifth grade at the time. Except for a few words like election, conspiracy, president, Korea, and interference, I doubt he can understand or pronounce any words that contain more than two syllables. Watching him struggle through a vocabulary test when he was young would have been a treat!
Unlike libraries established by previous presidents, this would lack ANY reading material, except transcripts from Faux News where they gushed about his wonderfulness.
Instead of books, there would be several statues of himself, his fan club members, children, favorite MAGAs, and our adversarial leaders. The center of the lobby would show a life-size "re-enactment" of him sitting in his favorite dining room chair, sucking on a cheeseburger that's oozing grease and slimy cheese, and a dozen or so McDonald's ketchup packets next to his Diet Pepsi. THAT would be his favorite "attraction."
I wonder how much he would charge for admission. And where might it be located?
It seems to me that the issue with Trump is not his reading comprehension but his verbal vocabulary; which seems limited to about 100 words. Which is to say that he would understand what he read if he wasn't so lazy and so damn shallow as to only be interested in reading if the material is about him or at least contains his name.
Wow! I like your explanation a whole lot more than the rambling comments I made. He is the epitome of laziness, so that does make sense. Seems to me that since he was spoiled rotten from the day he was spawned, he did NOTHING for himself. Everything was handed to him on a silver platter. Makes me wonder if he ever learned to tie his shoes, because someone was there not to show him how to do it himself, but to do it FOR him.
I want to throw up just for saying this, but I almost --- about .0000001% --- feel sad for him because he never learned to be a HUMAN BEING. The world can thank his parents for that. The strangest part of his screwed-up upbringing is that his siblings DID act like humans!
I like your choice of words when you said he's shallow. He's laser-focused on what he wants, to the point of being obsessed. If he's miserable, he demands that everyone be miserable, too.
He has some parroting capabilities, but they are actually brilliant fascist propaganda strategies. Since Kamala has been on the offensive, he has tried to negate the power of her words, by then calling her the things she has called him and just parroting her. Watch it. We know that if words are used a lot they lose their power. So he has called her fascist, dangerous, and other things that he has created to match things she has said, like that she is communist. While these have not stuck yet, I am sure his base is accepting the words in the way he intends them to.
Nah, he will extract the electrons from X and his other failing social media platform and hold them in his not tiny hands. Big strong men will come up to him with tears in their eyes and say "sir! We've never seen someone hold electrons like you do! All the best ones! Everyone says so!"
Then he'll make it into a NFT to grift from the suckers and losers ostensibly for the attorneys he will not pay, and one of the attorneys will reverse polarity on the electrons causing him to spontaneously combust.
His family, in memoriam, will leave the charred blood stains on the tattered walls as it will be their last remnant of him, and will rebrand the DJT Library as Trump BBQ and sewer reclamation.
No, I haven't really thought about it. Why do you ask?
Although the trump hotel in DC has been sold I bet if he owned it he’d want his likeness there along all else that glorifies him.
Regarding his inability to understand the written word, no educator here, but I bet he has a reading disability. One wonders how he ever got through school, didn’t he go to Wharton? I guess daddy paid a lot for his degree
I think its an accepted fact that he has dyslexia and possibly ADD. When he was in school such things weren't recognized and most kids with those problems thought they were stupid.They also learned to avoid reading.
Couple that with his inflated sense of himself, and he's decided he's the smartest human being on earth without having to inform himself.
Hes not actually stupid. But he's uninformed, grandiose and has poor judgment and poor impulse control.
I'm not sure its an inability to understand the written word, it's the utter lack of interest, either because it doesn't directly profit him or because he doesn't think he needs to learn.
"...Trump came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything."
The MAGAs don"t read….that’s what Preachers are for - to shout the "words of God" at those parishioners, who have been told to believe the Preacher, and do what he says…..
Not even that. 3 Corinthians was his answer for his favorite passage. He was laughed at for that lie, so since the he has refused to name a favorite or even inspirational verse.
He doesn't read. And refuses to listen when others read to him. eg security briefings.
He watches Fox and tweets, posts, or truths in 3rd grade level grammer.
I bet he had one of those big boxes with a sharpener in the back.
Not sure what that one book would be. If a book about the old TV show "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" had ever been written, that would have been his very favorite. Somehow, I can't picture him looking at a Golden Book or anything written by Richard Scarry or Dr. Zeuss.
Here is the one and only statement I will make in trump's defense: He appears to me to be artistic (swirling signature, golden toilet), and possibly would have been much better off in school learning from graphic novels, than he would from printed text. Like the one I have here on my coffee table: "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snyder, Graphic edition. Oh, maybe that's his bible.
Seriously my guess is he has a learning disability, no educator here, but have worked with children who needed help with reading which was not available when he was in school; those kids were mocked and taken out of their classes and put in a class for slow (often called dumb) kids. I bet his family just sent him off to some expensive private school and were not engaged in his reading issues. And we know daddy ensured he had an ivy league degree.
What amazes me is no rethug news media outlet ever mentions his inability to read and comprehend AND Dems are not mean spirited enough to mock him publicly. Didn’t members of his cabinet remark that he was not interested in the daily briefings and never read any details about current issues? My guess is he can’t
Dianne, I've often wondered why he was so allergic to those daily briefings. It seemed to me that he just didn't want to be bothered with knowing about what's going on in the world, unless it had to do with him, or HIS allies overseas. And of course, his MAGA buddies here in the US.
Your explanation makes sense. Still, one would think that during almost 80 years of being on Earth One, he would have learned the concept of "taking responsibility for one's actions." His laziness has also been a big part of who he is. That'll never change, because he grew up having others do things for him. He wouldn't know how to start a lawn mower, change a tire, or load a dishwasher if his life depended on it.
Meanwhile, you're right about Democrats. We have more class than Republicans. We do have some standards that Republicans wouldn't understand.
Ronald Reagan's funeral went on so long that they had to finally bury him. I assume trumps funeral will go longer only with clowns and toothpaste under everyone's nose.
Ick! Who would want to look at HIS body in a glass showcase? Not me, that's for sure! Some things are better done the "normal" way, six feet under, with no peepholes.
Only if they can use other people's money. More likely at the golf course.
Rather than disturb the grass near Wife 1, the boy's mother, another more appropriate place of interrment would be to open a paved and level spot regularly visited by staff, under the dumpster(s).
You know, how did that idea escape me. Yes, Kim Jong Un. I always claimed in my stories that they both spent the night in bed together at the Hanoi Hilton. And him, God only knows what they did I that room.
Good to know another Scot. According to my DNA I'm 90% Scottish 6% Celt Irish/Welsh and 4% whatever. My ancestors came from the area around Loch Linne, Specifically Oban and Pertshire.
To Michael Stanton: Right on, Michael. I’ve had that thought for a while. Or, how about something a little more hi-tech? Get his buddy, Elon, to donate a rocket (for a tax write off, of course), put Drumpf’s rotting corpse in the capsule, and shoot him into space. Destination: Never to be seen or found…EVER!!!
Conalds final resting....whatever you want to call it.. The prefect place to place all your Big Mac and Whopper wrappers.....dump all the Depends you want.......toss your KFC buckets........
Bill, he doesn't qualify for Arlington since he's never been a service member. I really like the idea of the traitor being buried in another country - or dumped at sea, never to be seen again! I'd kinda hate to poison our oceans, though... poor whales and other sea life. :'(
Actually, since he did not serve in the military, I think he will have to get special ation to be buried in Arlington, like RFK. Hopefully, that will not happen.
Diaper Don fcuked up by using Arlington National Cemetary as a photo op. The Orange Asshole is the abomination of Gods creation. Satan is gongi to kick this jerk off out of hell....
In addition tRump cannot lie in state( or is it lay in state?) after his death. Where is his presidential library? What about his presidential portrait? Weird.
Bill, I'll gladly sign that petition, so that Trump will never be allowed at Arlington. It would be an insult to my former high school classmates and former military personnel who I had the honor of knowing, but who lost their lives in Vietnam. Their sacrifices meant something. Trump has YET to make a sacrifice for our country, so he deserves to be left out.
There are plenty of golf courses where he could be tucked away in a corner, like he did for his ex-wife (the one whose casket is probably filled with classified documents, since the little urn she needed for her ashes left a lot of empty space, but then I digress). Makes sense that someone who loves golf would want to be there forever.
Why have a beautiful country like Scotland desecrate their land by burying him there? I’m sure they don’t like him anymore than we do. There must be a piece of ground at Guantanamo Bay that could be used…bury him there.
Joyce, your combination of hiking in Scotland and providing 'A Superseding Indictment in the Election Interference Case' for our understanding warrant medals for Democracy, Health, Teaching, Service and Generosity.
Jack Smith, as well has conducted himself with excellence as a Special Prosecutor and guardian of American Democracy.
Smith has already put it before a NEW grand jury to get these new indictments, to save the defense the trouble of complaining that the first grand jury made decisions based on information they were not supposed to hear. That will jumpstart things moving forward.
Trump's attorneys requested a postponement 8/15. Judge Merchan is also deciding on a request to throw out the verdict due to immunity issues, He has said he would issue a ruling 9/16.
Correct LP, the Court will rule on the verdicts (plural) in the court days before 9/18.
The 34 felonies fall into 3 distinct categories of private behavior likely not subject to alleged federal immunity no matter how broadly construed by the jury convicted Defendant.
He has also signaled he's not likely to throw everything out.
He's no fan of Trump's shenanigans.
I've been wondering why the election forecast hasn't included a mention of Marchan reappearing in the public eye in a few weeks. I don't think he'll put Trump in jail but I think the conviction and the judgment will be hot news for a few days.
The decision will hopefully be stinging enough to have an impact. Trump will of course appeal it immediately but so what. 34 felony count conviction is just such a sweet phrase he cannot deny.
Yes. According to the current version of the Supreme Court, a president has immunity from corrupting the department of justice internally. In what world should this be OK? Answer: none.
Yeah, the nutty Supreme Court immunity ruling actually mentioned a president's decision regarding who heads DOJ is part of a president's official actions, which is therefore "presumptively" immune.
What I find even nuttier is how the Court's majority opinion went on to say, as I understand it, that the motive behind such DOJ personnel decision could not even be considered in any prosecution, corrupt though it may be!
Yeah, but the president is the one who picks the members of his cabinet. I agree, though, that what tfg did (tried to do) with replacing the acting AG was entirely corrupt, and only a corrupt supreme court would be unable to see and address the corruption.
I'm still confused by this. I thought the DOJ was supposed to be independent from the Executive Branch, and therefore no "official act" would be in play.
🎶 Reindicted and it feels so good, superseding, as they thought it should, maybe this one will be, a charge that sticks permanently...we all are so excited cuz Jack reindicted... he he, yeaaaa 💙
The VOTE is Nov 5. All else is dependent on the people getting out the vote in spite of restrictions. The people need to insure 370 electoral college votes to protect the legal process.
Thank you, yes, for Justice and Democracy to prevail we must use our (current) right to vote in whatever form each particular State allows. We cannot risk any missteps either. If we had a responsible MSM they could be highlighting requirements State by State, then again we have GA changing the rules within 90 days of a Presidential election (with vaccines available for pandemic related accommodation made in ‘20) and Texas reportedly being messy, as usual.
It is still astounding, and disgraceful, that a president who corruptly influences government agencies to advance their personal interest is, through some twisted interpretation of the Constitution, not liable to criminal prosecution for that.
Maybe that can get “overturned” (just as Roe vs Wade was overturned) with a few more Supreme Court justices…if we win the Presidency, the House and the Senate. 🤞🙏
The Presidency and the House are well within reach we hope - but the Senate this cycle is a huge hill to climb, Democrats are trying to defend 23 seats, some of which are in Trump-Red states.
I do not think a normal supreme court (lower case is intentional) would have come anywhere near this decision. These hacks have been waiting for an orange jeezus for years and their waiting paid off.
Thank you so much for this information about the Superseding Indictment, Joyce! And for taking the time to do it from a vacation in Scotland! I sure hope we readers give you enough praise for using your substantial knowledge and skills to promote democracy. Along with Robert Hubbell and Heather Scott Richardson, you have helped me hang on to my sanity these past years. I hope you enjoy the rest of your vacation! You are the best!
I knew we could count on Jack Smith. He is the best. Judge Chutkan is another amazing person. She is a far cry from loose cannon. Thanks Joyce for bringing us this update all the way from Scotland. I hope when you get back, you’ll have pictures to share with us.
Joyce, thank you for taking time from your vacation to inform and educate - much gratitude for all that you do. Rest and enjoy. “We are in this together.”
Thank you for helping to clarify some of this. BTW…. I am so jealous of you being in Scotland. I definitely left a piece of my heart in the Cairngorm Mountains. I found a lovely little heart rock at Loch Lomond. ❤️
This entirely off topic, but you mentioned your time in Scotland
Was this your first visit, and would you be able to share any “must do’s”, how long was your stay and if you used an agent to help plan? If not, no problem and enjoy your evening.
If you ask this question on https://www.reddit.com/r/ThornTree/ I would be happy to provide advice on planning Scotland - it's a travel forum with an experienced community.
We have friends that live in Scotland so we travelled around with them. Wallace Monument, Stirling Castle, Dunnottar Castle were very informative. Mt favorite area was the Cairngorm Mountains and Loch Lomand. We stayed at a holiday hiuse (Airbnb type) in that area.
My regret was not getting to the Isle of Skye area. That will be next years trip!
While you are vacationing in Scotland, I wonder whether you might come across some documentation regarding Mary, Queen of Scots.
My recollection that earlier Elizabeth had been held in custody for years, until ultimately surviving to become Queen of England. Then Elizabeth put Mary under close custody for years until, SHAZAM, secret ciphers were found implicating Mary in treasonous activities. Soon, KAPUT.
Might Special Counsel Jack Smith learn from this history? Whoever the judge, were he to find secret correspondence between the Orange Orangutan and Putrid Putin that would be treason—and a head losing offense.
Just a thought, as Jack is dealing with an injudicious judge and Donnie has a head that wouldn’t be missed, once all the glop were removed.
Reader While I appreciate your recognition of ‘brilliance,’ I seriously wonder, if you appreciate my mind set, whether you might seek professional mental assistance. My wife has been suggesting this for years.
For me, Keith, it is your use of language that hits the spots. Combining ancient history with 'Donnie', the evil, comic book character, except this being America, he was elected the country's president. Now, a Felon, he is a candidate for a 2nd term, and Special Prosecutor, Jack Smith, Superman The Rule of Law in America, after many setbacks, is still determined to put 'Donnie' where he belongs. Someone, please tell the Prosecutor that Keith Wheelock has done just that with the strokes of his erudite, cartoonish pen.
Fern Great to see you back! I was afraid that you had fled to Outer Mongolia or some other non-Trump locale.
I have been reenergized by Kamala/Coach and that the only ‘age factor’ is a moribund, moldering whale whose head is awaiting Bobby Kennedy Jr.’s chain saw.
I have resurrected history to place Dufus Donald in an appropriate treasonous mode. I have also pondered whether he is sliced sushi or simply chicken s++t.
I have sought a coach/tutor that could prepare Turkey Turd for the September 10th ‘debate,’ though concluded that such would be a failed effort for someone who has never read a book and believes that he is the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Some of my more restrained commentaries have appeared on the NYT website. With Heather, I have been more expressive.
If you wish to catch up, click on Keith Wheelock and then NOTES, which include comments on Heather, Joyce Vance, and James Fallows.
FORWARD is better than BACKWARD and much more fun.
I thought treason could be applied only in war time. I understand why everyone describes tfg's behavior as treasonous, but I think that technically it is not.
Susan What a quaint thought that the law and precedence should be considered in judicial matters such as treason. Could you alert the current Supreme Court to your common sense insight?
Susan There was a case in the early 1800s. Chief Justice John Marshall was also, in keeping with court tradition, a circuit justice. He heard the case of treason against a person involved in the Louisiana area. He acquitted the man because there were not two witnesses who could testify to the treason.
As a non lawyer, I would say that Trump’s public testimony that he took Putin’s word over US intelligence assessments was treasonous.
I would definitely do that because I know in my heart of hearts that they would listen to me and suddenly straighten up… Thank you for a good laugh, Keith.
I still love Joe Biden. The media, which needs to sell controversy, seems to continue pooh-poohing his accomplishments. But historians, who have the luxury of objective hindsight, will put Biden's amazing accomplishments in proper perspective; one of America's greatest presidents and a gift to all of us.
I'm quickly learning to love Kamala Harris. What a miraculous transition. And I believe she will win big-time on Nov 5.
We can see victory in the voter numbers starting at the 81 million who voted for Joe, in her contributions, in her engaging and hopeful messaging, in women's health choices, in her taking back to the Democratic Party the fundamental words of "freedom", "patriotism", "loyalty","joy", her outreach to all Americans, her dismissal of Trump as unserious thereby incapable of trolling Democrats, and so forth. Who to vote for is such a simple choice; Goodness and Joy or Trump and MAGA's Awfulness.
We can see victory in the tidal wave of new volunteers joining the millions of grassroots activists who have been working since 2016 to bring back a Democratic majority in Congress and the White House. This majority will arrive and pass historic legislation for Americans.
For all of us who grew up in the midst of Vietnam protests and the Civil Rights movements, we know the power of the most potent force in our democracy; The Consent of the Governed. Given time and diligence, it will overwhelm the the enemy we face; The Tyranny of the Minority.
Trump's final act will not be overthrowing our Democracy but finally electing a woman POTUS in America.✌️✌️
Joyce, thank you for your commitment to democracy and keeping us informed. Have a great rest of your trip!
I want to begin a petition to demand that in the time of Trump’s passing, that not only he not be buried in Arlington, but that he is buried on land non contiguous to the United States and I thought his golf course in Scotland might be a good repository. But you, Joyce Vance, might take issue with using beautiful Scotland to get rid of the decrepit remains.
His sons will build a glorious tomb with a turnstile and charge admission; somewhere near his presidential library with no books and a tacky gift shop. Don't worry, you won't have to go.
He has/will have a presidential library??? I’m not sure he can even actually read…
illustrated comic book style library...
Good idea, since they seldom contain any words at all!
That actually is another ability, learning through graphic novels. That gift may mean a disability, though, for processing written texts.. His teachers inadvertently set him on a course for failure before he left kindergarten.
Dianne, when you were in elementary school, did they periodically give students reading tests to show their "reading level" compared to their grade? Trump's couldn't possibly have been more than a second grade reading level, even if he were in fifth grade at the time. Except for a few words like election, conspiracy, president, Korea, and interference, I doubt he can understand or pronounce any words that contain more than two syllables. Watching him struggle through a vocabulary test when he was young would have been a treat!
Unlike libraries established by previous presidents, this would lack ANY reading material, except transcripts from Faux News where they gushed about his wonderfulness.
Instead of books, there would be several statues of himself, his fan club members, children, favorite MAGAs, and our adversarial leaders. The center of the lobby would show a life-size "re-enactment" of him sitting in his favorite dining room chair, sucking on a cheeseburger that's oozing grease and slimy cheese, and a dozen or so McDonald's ketchup packets next to his Diet Pepsi. THAT would be his favorite "attraction."
I wonder how much he would charge for admission. And where might it be located?
It seems to me that the issue with Trump is not his reading comprehension but his verbal vocabulary; which seems limited to about 100 words. Which is to say that he would understand what he read if he wasn't so lazy and so damn shallow as to only be interested in reading if the material is about him or at least contains his name.
Wow! I like your explanation a whole lot more than the rambling comments I made. He is the epitome of laziness, so that does make sense. Seems to me that since he was spoiled rotten from the day he was spawned, he did NOTHING for himself. Everything was handed to him on a silver platter. Makes me wonder if he ever learned to tie his shoes, because someone was there not to show him how to do it himself, but to do it FOR him.
I want to throw up just for saying this, but I almost --- about .0000001% --- feel sad for him because he never learned to be a HUMAN BEING. The world can thank his parents for that. The strangest part of his screwed-up upbringing is that his siblings DID act like humans!
I like your choice of words when you said he's shallow. He's laser-focused on what he wants, to the point of being obsessed. If he's miserable, he demands that everyone be miserable, too.
He has some parroting capabilities, but they are actually brilliant fascist propaganda strategies. Since Kamala has been on the offensive, he has tried to negate the power of her words, by then calling her the things she has called him and just parroting her. Watch it. We know that if words are used a lot they lose their power. So he has called her fascist, dangerous, and other things that he has created to match things she has said, like that she is communist. While these have not stuck yet, I am sure his base is accepting the words in the way he intends them to.
I am sure Trump would rather have a casino in his name than a library, and the papers from his administration would be kept in boxes in the bathrooms.
Nah, he will extract the electrons from X and his other failing social media platform and hold them in his not tiny hands. Big strong men will come up to him with tears in their eyes and say "sir! We've never seen someone hold electrons like you do! All the best ones! Everyone says so!"
Then he'll make it into a NFT to grift from the suckers and losers ostensibly for the attorneys he will not pay, and one of the attorneys will reverse polarity on the electrons causing him to spontaneously combust.
His family, in memoriam, will leave the charred blood stains on the tattered walls as it will be their last remnant of him, and will rebrand the DJT Library as Trump BBQ and sewer reclamation.
No, I haven't really thought about it. Why do you ask?
And those toilets better be made of gold.
Although the trump hotel in DC has been sold I bet if he owned it he’d want his likeness there along all else that glorifies him.
Regarding his inability to understand the written word, no educator here, but I bet he has a reading disability. One wonders how he ever got through school, didn’t he go to Wharton? I guess daddy paid a lot for his degree
I think its an accepted fact that he has dyslexia and possibly ADD. When he was in school such things weren't recognized and most kids with those problems thought they were stupid.They also learned to avoid reading.
Couple that with his inflated sense of himself, and he's decided he's the smartest human being on earth without having to inform himself.
Hes not actually stupid. But he's uninformed, grandiose and has poor judgment and poor impulse control.
I'm not sure its an inability to understand the written word, it's the utter lack of interest, either because it doesn't directly profit him or because he doesn't think he needs to learn.
"...Trump came to Wharton thinking he already knew everything."
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/10/12/1705902/-Former-Wharton-Professor-Donald-Trump-Is-the-Dumbest-Goddam-Student-I-Ever-Had
The DJT Library is a contradiction in terms.
He does not need to read, but someone who cares about him needs to read. Wonder if MAGAs do much of that. I guess Scripture.
The MAGAs don"t read….that’s what Preachers are for - to shout the "words of God" at those parishioners, who have been told to believe the Preacher, and do what he says…..
Yeah, ain't that the true gospel right there. 👆
Not even that. 3 Corinthians was his answer for his favorite passage. He was laughed at for that lie, so since the he has refused to name a favorite or even inspirational verse.
He doesn't read. And refuses to listen when others read to him. eg security briefings.
He watches Fox and tweets, posts, or truths in 3rd grade level grammer.
One book and a box of crayons. But not the really big box of crayons. The one with maybe 24 colors.
I bet he had one of those big boxes with a sharpener in the back.
Not sure what that one book would be. If a book about the old TV show "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" had ever been written, that would have been his very favorite. Somehow, I can't picture him looking at a Golden Book or anything written by Richard Scarry or Dr. Zeuss.
6 colors. and no coloring in the lines.
Here is the one and only statement I will make in trump's defense: He appears to me to be artistic (swirling signature, golden toilet), and possibly would have been much better off in school learning from graphic novels, than he would from printed text. Like the one I have here on my coffee table: "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snyder, Graphic edition. Oh, maybe that's his bible.
Seriously my guess is he has a learning disability, no educator here, but have worked with children who needed help with reading which was not available when he was in school; those kids were mocked and taken out of their classes and put in a class for slow (often called dumb) kids. I bet his family just sent him off to some expensive private school and were not engaged in his reading issues. And we know daddy ensured he had an ivy league degree.
What amazes me is no rethug news media outlet ever mentions his inability to read and comprehend AND Dems are not mean spirited enough to mock him publicly. Didn’t members of his cabinet remark that he was not interested in the daily briefings and never read any details about current issues? My guess is he can’t
Dianne, I've often wondered why he was so allergic to those daily briefings. It seemed to me that he just didn't want to be bothered with knowing about what's going on in the world, unless it had to do with him, or HIS allies overseas. And of course, his MAGA buddies here in the US.
Your explanation makes sense. Still, one would think that during almost 80 years of being on Earth One, he would have learned the concept of "taking responsibility for one's actions." His laziness has also been a big part of who he is. That'll never change, because he grew up having others do things for him. He wouldn't know how to start a lawn mower, change a tire, or load a dishwasher if his life depended on it.
Meanwhile, you're right about Democrats. We have more class than Republicans. We do have some standards that Republicans wouldn't understand.
I have that one too.
Ronald Reagan's funeral went on so long that they had to finally bury him. I assume trumps funeral will go longer only with clowns and toothpaste under everyone's nose.
Wonder if the press will even cover it given no sound bites from him to report on.
I pity the people who have to follow along, armed with snow shovels and big contractor-sized plastic bags.
Don't forget the Lies From The Crypt trading card series, and the Died With His Sneakers On special edition Trump Bible.
Those "scriptures" would be unlike anything that ANY of us have ever seen.
😂👏
With thin gold leaf over everything , 14 carot of course. Maybe they'll house the whole thing at Mar-a-Lago, embalm him like Lenin, for the ages?
Ick! Who would want to look at HIS body in a glass showcase? Not me, that's for sure! Some things are better done the "normal" way, six feet under, with no peepholes.
Perhaps he will be buried on the grounds of Mar-a-lago.
Another affront to ecology.
I agree.
Presidential library? That's a stretch since he supposedly doesn't read.
Only if they can use other people's money. More likely at the golf course.
Rather than disturb the grass near Wife 1, the boy's mother, another more appropriate place of interrment would be to open a paved and level spot regularly visited by staff, under the dumpster(s).
It’s likely to be the Graceland of Scotland. Better make that DISGRACELAND! Thank you Professor Vance for your excellent analysis. Safe travels.
So would I object to Scotland, it is a beautiful country and deserves no such blasphemy. How about sending them to his "sweetheart" Kim Jong Un?
You know, how did that idea escape me. Yes, Kim Jong Un. I always claimed in my stories that they both spent the night in bed together at the Hanoi Hilton. And him, God only knows what they did I that room.
FUNNY!!!!
Fay, that’s the pluperfect place. Brilliant. I’m half Scottish, western highlands Rosshire, Loch Carron.
No to Bonnie Scotland, and YES to N Korea.
Good to know another Scot. According to my DNA I'm 90% Scottish 6% Celt Irish/Welsh and 4% whatever. My ancestors came from the area around Loch Linne, Specifically Oban and Pertshire.
I suggest we use the Osama-bin-laden procedure. Burial at sea. In international waters. At a undisclosed location.
Briliant - with Mike Johnson, MTG and a few other MAGA scumbags as ballast. Rounded off by a few rousing choruses of satchmo's wonderful world.
To Michael Stanton: Right on, Michael. I’ve had that thought for a while. Or, how about something a little more hi-tech? Get his buddy, Elon, to donate a rocket (for a tax write off, of course), put Drumpf’s rotting corpse in the capsule, and shoot him into space. Destination: Never to be seen or found…EVER!!!
A large fish kill event.
Strap him to a battery
The Scottish people, too, would have issue with this, even though his mother was born there.
Well then… we could send the casket one way to Moscow and let Putin create a mausoleum in Red Square to match his orange face.
Or maybe Venezuela, since he's considering moving there if he loses the election. :)
"when" he loses!
You should also include in your petition that for the love of God under no circumstance he lay in state at the Capitol he had desecrated….
I think the carcass should be dropped in the ocean for the sharks. As with Bin Laden, a place of burial would become a gathering point for terrorists.
There must be laws against poisoning sharks.
Conalds final resting....whatever you want to call it.. The prefect place to place all your Big Mac and Whopper wrappers.....dump all the Depends you want.......toss your KFC buckets........
Personally, I think he should be buried at SEA, in an area infested with sharks! Quite fitting, if you ask me. No need to pollute the ground!
Sharks and a boat with an electric battery.
Bill, he doesn't qualify for Arlington since he's never been a service member. I really like the idea of the traitor being buried in another country - or dumped at sea, never to be seen again! I'd kinda hate to poison our oceans, though... poor whales and other sea life. :'(
I certainly hope there won’t be lying in state rituals. He did enough lying when he was alive.
Cremate it; sanitize the ashes with bleach — house brand—; throw them in a dumpster in Venezuela.
Actually, since he did not serve in the military, I think he will have to get special ation to be buried in Arlington, like RFK. Hopefully, that will not happen.
Diaper Don fcuked up by using Arlington National Cemetary as a photo op. The Orange Asshole is the abomination of Gods creation. Satan is gongi to kick this jerk off out of hell....
I just read that Kamala Harris is calling for some border wall. Oh. My. God. Finally.
In addition tRump cannot lie in state( or is it lay in state?) after his death. Where is his presidential library? What about his presidential portrait? Weird.
Bill, I'll gladly sign that petition, so that Trump will never be allowed at Arlington. It would be an insult to my former high school classmates and former military personnel who I had the honor of knowing, but who lost their lives in Vietnam. Their sacrifices meant something. Trump has YET to make a sacrifice for our country, so he deserves to be left out.
There are plenty of golf courses where he could be tucked away in a corner, like he did for his ex-wife (the one whose casket is probably filled with classified documents, since the little urn she needed for her ashes left a lot of empty space, but then I digress). Makes sense that someone who loves golf would want to be there forever.
Why have a beautiful country like Scotland desecrate their land by burying him there? I’m sure they don’t like him anymore than we do. There must be a piece of ground at Guantanamo Bay that could be used…bury him there.
Joyce, your combination of hiking in Scotland and providing 'A Superseding Indictment in the Election Interference Case' for our understanding warrant medals for Democracy, Health, Teaching, Service and Generosity.
Jack Smith, as well has conducted himself with excellence as a Special Prosecutor and guardian of American Democracy.
Abundant thanks to you both.
Yes. I love Scotland. Enjoy.
Smith has already put it before a NEW grand jury to get these new indictments, to save the defense the trouble of complaining that the first grand jury made decisions based on information they were not supposed to hear. That will jumpstart things moving forward.
Now, if only the FL and GA cases will go forward, too. Sentencing in NY is not postponed. And tfg loses in Nov...a girl can dream.
9/18 still on Judge Merchan's Docket 34 felonies & 10 contempts = 44 matters under NY state sentencing guidelines.
Trump's attorneys requested a postponement 8/15. Judge Merchan is also deciding on a request to throw out the verdict due to immunity issues, He has said he would issue a ruling 9/16.
Correct LP, the Court will rule on the verdicts (plural) in the court days before 9/18.
The 34 felonies fall into 3 distinct categories of private behavior likely not subject to alleged federal immunity no matter how broadly construed by the jury convicted Defendant.
He has also signaled he's not likely to throw everything out.
He's no fan of Trump's shenanigans.
I've been wondering why the election forecast hasn't included a mention of Marchan reappearing in the public eye in a few weeks. I don't think he'll put Trump in jail but I think the conviction and the judgment will be hot news for a few days.
The decision will hopefully be stinging enough to have an impact. Trump will of course appeal it immediately but so what. 34 felony count conviction is just such a sweet phrase he cannot deny.
What's holding up Georgia? I forget...
Appeals Court deciding if Fani Willis can still prosecute - decision not until 2025. Plus the SCOTUS immunity decision will be an issue also.
Go, Jack, Go!
So if a president tries to use the DOJ to circumvent an election, that is an official act and he can’t be charged? Nuts!
Yes. According to the current version of the Supreme Court, a president has immunity from corrupting the department of justice internally. In what world should this be OK? Answer: none.
This is how corrupt the majority justices are. Add Bill Barr to the mix and you have a molotov cocktail for ending democracy.
Yeah, the nutty Supreme Court immunity ruling actually mentioned a president's decision regarding who heads DOJ is part of a president's official actions, which is therefore "presumptively" immune.
What I find even nuttier is how the Court's majority opinion went on to say, as I understand it, that the motive behind such DOJ personnel decision could not even be considered in any prosecution, corrupt though it may be!
Yeah, but the president is the one who picks the members of his cabinet. I agree, though, that what tfg did (tried to do) with replacing the acting AG was entirely corrupt, and only a corrupt supreme court would be unable to see and address the corruption.
I guess this means Nixon was innocent.
Yep, that's what it says. Oy.
Not in this case. Trump was not committing an official act and there is nobody in their right mind who would think otherwise.
I'm still confused by this. I thought the DOJ was supposed to be independent from the Executive Branch, and therefore no "official act" would be in play.
The DOJ is, by definition, part of the Executive Branch. Therefore, crickets.
Both disrupting Biden's election and separately conspiring to block Congress are still in the New Indictment.
Jack Smith is playing a long game. Hats off.
Yes, he is, and his strategy is brilliant.
Jack Smith has red-white and blue running through his veins......the definition of patriot.
Man, I hope so.
🎶 Reindicted and it feels so good, superseding, as they thought it should, maybe this one will be, a charge that sticks permanently...we all are so excited cuz Jack reindicted... he he, yeaaaa 💙
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-indicted-federal-election-interference-case
The VOTE is Nov 5. All else is dependent on the people getting out the vote in spite of restrictions. The people need to insure 370 electoral college votes to protect the legal process.
Thank you, yes, for Justice and Democracy to prevail we must use our (current) right to vote in whatever form each particular State allows. We cannot risk any missteps either. If we had a responsible MSM they could be highlighting requirements State by State, then again we have GA changing the rules within 90 days of a Presidential election (with vaccines available for pandemic related accommodation made in ‘20) and Texas reportedly being messy, as usual.
270?
Yes I do mean 370
Lets shoot for convincing victory tonight and not only a minimal and challengeable win. 370 will carry far down ballot as well
And a clean Congress.
That is so funny and so good!!😁
🤗 Thank you! 💙
"Reindicted" dovetailed so perfectly. Thanks!
Oops-that was meant for Shire! 🥴
Fantastic! Now I have a new ear worm!!
And a good one Audrey! Enjoy. I'm going to!
Champagne and I have been belting it out all afternoon! 💙
💗 Shire Jansen, well done!
Thank you so much! 💙
Thanks for writing from Scotland. Your quick notes make much more sense than the news reports that have been issued!
It is still astounding, and disgraceful, that a president who corruptly influences government agencies to advance their personal interest is, through some twisted interpretation of the Constitution, not liable to criminal prosecution for that.
Maybe that can get “overturned” (just as Roe vs Wade was overturned) with a few more Supreme Court justices…if we win the Presidency, the House and the Senate. 🤞🙏
The Presidency and the House are well within reach we hope - but the Senate this cycle is a huge hill to climb, Democrats are trying to defend 23 seats, some of which are in Trump-Red states.
The "right" case has to come along. It's not as if they can just overturn precedent without a case before them I don't think.
I do not think a normal supreme court (lower case is intentional) would have come anywhere near this decision. These hacks have been waiting for an orange jeezus for years and their waiting paid off.
You are awesome, Joyce! Get a good sleep & enjoy the gorgeous countryside.
Thank you so much for this information about the Superseding Indictment, Joyce! And for taking the time to do it from a vacation in Scotland! I sure hope we readers give you enough praise for using your substantial knowledge and skills to promote democracy. Along with Robert Hubbell and Heather Scott Richardson, you have helped me hang on to my sanity these past years. I hope you enjoy the rest of your vacation! You are the best!
I knew we could count on Jack Smith. He is the best. Judge Chutkan is another amazing person. She is a far cry from loose cannon. Thanks Joyce for bringing us this update all the way from Scotland. I hope when you get back, you’ll have pictures to share with us.
Joyce, thank you for taking time from your vacation to inform and educate - much gratitude for all that you do. Rest and enjoy. “We are in this together.”
Thank you for helping to clarify some of this. BTW…. I am so jealous of you being in Scotland. I definitely left a piece of my heart in the Cairngorm Mountains. I found a lovely little heart rock at Loch Lomond. ❤️
This entirely off topic, but you mentioned your time in Scotland
Was this your first visit, and would you be able to share any “must do’s”, how long was your stay and if you used an agent to help plan? If not, no problem and enjoy your evening.
If you ask this question on https://www.reddit.com/r/ThornTree/ I would be happy to provide advice on planning Scotland - it's a travel forum with an experienced community.
We have friends that live in Scotland so we travelled around with them. Wallace Monument, Stirling Castle, Dunnottar Castle were very informative. Mt favorite area was the Cairngorm Mountains and Loch Lomand. We stayed at a holiday hiuse (Airbnb type) in that area.
My regret was not getting to the Isle of Skye area. That will be next years trip!
Skye is nice, but its reputation might be higher than the reality. The coast north from Skye is very scenic.
Joyce
While you are vacationing in Scotland, I wonder whether you might come across some documentation regarding Mary, Queen of Scots.
My recollection that earlier Elizabeth had been held in custody for years, until ultimately surviving to become Queen of England. Then Elizabeth put Mary under close custody for years until, SHAZAM, secret ciphers were found implicating Mary in treasonous activities. Soon, KAPUT.
Might Special Counsel Jack Smith learn from this history? Whoever the judge, were he to find secret correspondence between the Orange Orangutan and Putrid Putin that would be treason—and a head losing offense.
Just a thought, as Jack is dealing with an injudicious judge and Donnie has a head that wouldn’t be missed, once all the glop were removed.
Brilliant, Keith!
Reader While I appreciate your recognition of ‘brilliance,’ I seriously wonder, if you appreciate my mind set, whether you might seek professional mental assistance. My wife has been suggesting this for years.
For me, Keith, it is your use of language that hits the spots. Combining ancient history with 'Donnie', the evil, comic book character, except this being America, he was elected the country's president. Now, a Felon, he is a candidate for a 2nd term, and Special Prosecutor, Jack Smith, Superman The Rule of Law in America, after many setbacks, is still determined to put 'Donnie' where he belongs. Someone, please tell the Prosecutor that Keith Wheelock has done just that with the strokes of his erudite, cartoonish pen.
Fern Great to see you back! I was afraid that you had fled to Outer Mongolia or some other non-Trump locale.
I have been reenergized by Kamala/Coach and that the only ‘age factor’ is a moribund, moldering whale whose head is awaiting Bobby Kennedy Jr.’s chain saw.
I have resurrected history to place Dufus Donald in an appropriate treasonous mode. I have also pondered whether he is sliced sushi or simply chicken s++t.
I have sought a coach/tutor that could prepare Turkey Turd for the September 10th ‘debate,’ though concluded that such would be a failed effort for someone who has never read a book and believes that he is the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Some of my more restrained commentaries have appeared on the NYT website. With Heather, I have been more expressive.
If you wish to catch up, click on Keith Wheelock and then NOTES, which include comments on Heather, Joyce Vance, and James Fallows.
FORWARD is better than BACKWARD and much more fun.
Smiley Keith
Laughing' of course, after a meal of 'Smiley'! Kamala is another Smiley one.
Walz has the style and gumption to stuff the Trump, the Vance and MAGAs galore.
Let's eat, Keith!
I thought treason could be applied only in war time. I understand why everyone describes tfg's behavior as treasonous, but I think that technically it is not.
Susan What a quaint thought that the law and precedence should be considered in judicial matters such as treason. Could you alert the current Supreme Court to your common sense insight?
Susan There was a case in the early 1800s. Chief Justice John Marshall was also, in keeping with court tradition, a circuit justice. He heard the case of treason against a person involved in the Louisiana area. He acquitted the man because there were not two witnesses who could testify to the treason.
As a non lawyer, I would say that Trump’s public testimony that he took Putin’s word over US intelligence assessments was treasonous.
I would definitely do that because I know in my heart of hearts that they would listen to me and suddenly straighten up… Thank you for a good laugh, Keith.
Love that thought, Keith!
I still love Joe Biden. The media, which needs to sell controversy, seems to continue pooh-poohing his accomplishments. But historians, who have the luxury of objective hindsight, will put Biden's amazing accomplishments in proper perspective; one of America's greatest presidents and a gift to all of us.
I'm quickly learning to love Kamala Harris. What a miraculous transition. And I believe she will win big-time on Nov 5.
We can see victory in the voter numbers starting at the 81 million who voted for Joe, in her contributions, in her engaging and hopeful messaging, in women's health choices, in her taking back to the Democratic Party the fundamental words of "freedom", "patriotism", "loyalty","joy", her outreach to all Americans, her dismissal of Trump as unserious thereby incapable of trolling Democrats, and so forth. Who to vote for is such a simple choice; Goodness and Joy or Trump and MAGA's Awfulness.
We can see victory in the tidal wave of new volunteers joining the millions of grassroots activists who have been working since 2016 to bring back a Democratic majority in Congress and the White House. This majority will arrive and pass historic legislation for Americans.
For all of us who grew up in the midst of Vietnam protests and the Civil Rights movements, we know the power of the most potent force in our democracy; The Consent of the Governed. Given time and diligence, it will overwhelm the the enemy we face; The Tyranny of the Minority.
Trump's final act will not be overthrowing our Democracy but finally electing a woman POTUS in America.✌️✌️
I am glad you are, Merrill. We, in CA., already adore her!