Well Bill, now you don’t have to stand on the corner and hawk your book! At least you were able to take part in history when Stormy was on the stand🙏🏼☮️
Sharon Thirty-four trombones are resounding across the country. I’m ready to go out to Zumba with my walker. None of Despicable Donnie’s judicial gyrations can remove the stigma of 34/34.
I would like to add that this is the first time in trump's life that he has been accountable for ANYTHING! The short time the jury took to deliberate convinced me the verdict was guilty on all accounts. Had he testified, it would've taken not more than five minutes....
Yes, but he can still run for president, unfortunately. The sad thing is that he's not likely to be sentenced to jail. These are the lowest level of felony above a misdemeanor, and Trump has no prior record and is an old man. In my experience I expect him to get a conditional discharge for one year, meaning that he will only go to jail if he violates the conditions. He might also be ordered to pay a big fine.
I agree, the punishment will probably not match the crime. However- I am beyond grateful and relieved that 1) The Justice system worked this time, and 2) trump is held accountable.
I worked in the court system for over 10 years. The one thing I still have strong faith in is the jury system. A jury nailed him in the E. Jean Carroll case, and they just nailed him again. My guess is that those 12 citizens took offense to a rich and powerful man manipulating and lying in order to win the presidency, then using money to keep people quiet about it. It was a rather lurid case, unfitting of a US president.
MAGA will lose support at the fringes, but better, the conviction should influence some "undecided" and "swing" voters and make it easier for us to reach the unregistered who trend Democratic. Register Democratic and sweep the swing states.
He could still run for president if he were in jail -- and sentence won't be carried out until after his appeal is heard anyway, almost certainly after the election. Though why that is I don't know. Other convicted criminals head straight for the slammer pending sentencing.
I don’t think that sentence has to or needs be stayed while the case is on appeal if it doesn’t include jail time, and I don’t think he’ll get jail time if he obeys his conditions of release and the gag order. Which he will not.
Most sentences in NY are not stayed pending appeal, especially when it's for the convicted felon's benefit. In my 10 years as a clerk in a felony court, I never saw anyone's sentence stayed for any reason.
I would like to see him do some time in jail just to help reality sink into his consciousness somehow. From what I understand, the combination of the gag order violations and the lack of remorse could land him in jail. I think 6 months could make an impression, and I'm sure it would feel like forever to him, even though it isn't. IMO, nothing less is needed to
8 hour/ day garbage cleanup in a state park, or possibly repairing park roads?- contained, separated, good honest hard work—good fer the soul. Then, back to a state facility each night. Hell, I’d settle for house arrest with a ankle lojack, even.
Apparently I am wrong here. Per the Washington Post, “Under Florida law, residents convicted of crimes in other states lose their ability to vote in Florida only if they are barred from voting in the state where they committed their offenses…. In New York, where Trump was convicted, felons are barred from voting only while they are incarcerated….”
(The Washington Post, May 31, 2024; The Trump Cases - “Felons Can’t Often Vote in Florida…” by Patrick Marley)
To say I am disappointed is a gross understatement.
According to Justice.gov, if a person has been convicted of a felony (except for murder or a sexual offense), and has completed their sentence including incarceration, parole, and probation, and payment of any fines, fees, court costs, and restitution, then they are eligible to vote. Until then, they are not eligible to vote.
I understand that the law in New York would allow him to vote if he was a resident of New York, but he is now a Florida resident (as you know).
Can you direct me to where it says he is eligible? Thanks.
Listening now to MSNBC, several reasons why he may go to jail 1. Cohen did and was convicted of the same crime and he pleaded guilty, showed remorse and helped the Justice Department. 2. His egregious gag orders weigh in on sentencing and those showed his total disregard for others’ safety 3. His total lack of remorse. If he violates his gag order between now and sentencing, don’t bet on a fine only
USA Today has an article saying it isn't likely Trump will go to jail because of the logistics of how his Secret Service protection will work. It is likely that Trump will be sentenced to either probation or may serve 2 days a week in jail. Michael Cohen was not convicted of 34 counts of Falsifying Business Records. He was convicted of campaign finance violations and bank fraud.
What makes Trump’s crime a felony is the last part of this sentence, “ Trump falsified the records to try to illegally influence the 2016 presidential election.” WaPo
If he is sentenced to jail, the government WILL create a way to incarcerate him. Stop believing that. We can send someone to the moon, but not send a man to prison?
He's not a healthy man--physically, morally, emotionally--and certainly not a man who trusts God to see him through. Factor that into the confinement he may endure.
Ruth Ben-Ghiat, in her Substack, "Lucid" has a good column today. Trump's followers, indeed the entire Republican party, have become a cult with unwavering loyalty to their authoritarian leader. For their beliefs and saving face, they will only dig in all the more. They will become more absurd in their justifications. Project 2025 is their Bible, and Trump is their God, no matter his rotten core.
Which I'm sure will guarantee that he'll lose bigly in November. He doesn't have enough support to win, and he's going to lose some support. Already, donations to his campaign have flopped.
I don't care. I doubt an elderly man convicted of low level financial crimes, having no criminal record, will go to jail. If he does, however, I'll be very happy.
I'm guessing house arrest, with Secret Service supervision. I would like to see him have to do community service, but I can't imagine how he would comply with picking up trash at a nearby park. The best punishment, but it's probably not legal, is to keep him from Social Media for months!
From govtech.com: "Most states do not have laws that specifically prohibit inmates from using social media, though all states prohibit them from possessing cellphones — and many inmates access social media using contraband phones. Others rely on a third party to post for them. (Most prisoners do not have access to computers. A handful of states allow inmates to buy mini-tablets with limited email access that is strictly monitored by prison officials.)"
I think of Freedom of Speech and how T. might howl at his right to communicate with his constituents. (Ugh!) Also, some form of internet use is allowed in confinement, and I will check if that is correct.
Way back in the 2016 campaign 45 liked to lead the crowd in chanting "Lock her up! Lock her up!" -- although HRC was not officially accused of any crime.
Now that he is a convicted felon, his Karma should return the favor, and treat him to crowds chanting "Lock him up! Lock him up!".
He should be locked up. Somehow, anything less than jail just wouldn't seem like justice.
Trump's lawyers were terrible, basically, but they did nothing to jeopardize the case. Claiming the judge is corrupt is just absurd, and the jury was picked by both sides, so how can it be said that the jury wasn't fair?
Trump claims everything was "rigged," like a child who, when losing at a game of checkers or Old Maid pouts and cries, saying to his opponent, "You cheated!" He's been a loser ever since 2020 and he keeps on losing, which has pushed him over the edge. He cannot accept being a loser, it humiliates him to the point where he instigated violence on Jan 6,.
I would add that 45 lost the popular vote in 2016.
HRC received 65,844,954 (48.2%) to 45's 62,979,879 (46.1%).
Let us ponder once again why the "Electoral College" makes sense. A substantial majority of Americans voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton, but she did not become President. Instead, what we got was a president who is a career criminal. After November, if we still have a nation that believes in the rule of law, then we should try again to abolish the Electoral College.
Absolutely. The rest of the world wonders why we have such a screwball election system, which was put in place by our founding fathers because they feared the people weren't well informed enough to vote responsibly. The electoral college is antiquated and should have been dispensed with a century ago. It's worst trait is that it's racist, since electors tend to be white people.
So we can now quit it with the cutesy nicknames; his title, now and forever. Is The Convict. Hey! Maybe he'll get his high school diploma while he's in prison!
You know, last night when I couldn’t sleep due to chronic overthinking, I was asking myself what would satisfy me as an outcome in this case, conviction-wise AND sentencing-wise. I finally went to sleep with the clear thought that it was likely going to be a split verdict and that I would be satisfied with one guilty verdict even if the rest were not guilty and/or hung, that if there was simply one conviction I would be satisfied. But that even if it were all not guilty and/or hung or some combination of those two, then the system where I spent my whole career and that I believe in totally, as imperfect as it can be from time to time, still worked because it is a system based on the rule of law and evidence. So I was hoping, unreasonably so I thought then, for a 34 guilty verdict, I didn’t expect it and would still believe in the system of justice in our country. Needless to say, I am very happy with the outcome (she says with a grin).
As far as sentencing, I doubt that the felon orange peel will get prison time unless he continues to violate the gag order and every condition of release that Judge Merchan has set — which is possible, as we know — and I’d be satisfied with a very high fine and a reasonable period on house arrest or no fine and a long period of house arrest, forfeiture of his passport for 2-3 years of probation with reporting requirements.
Praise Jesus...HE GUILTY...LOCK HIM UP! For cause...34 felony convictions! And as Andrew Weissman was saying today on MSNBC, extenuating circumstances point to a serious sentence: lack of remorse, persistent and vicious DAILY attacks on not only all the principals involved, but the entirety of the American criminal justice system; chronic abuse and defilement of the conditions of bail, on and on. Pass sentence, then echo the classic British judge's final remarks: "TAKE HIM DOWN".
A sad day, Trump should never have been President. But it's exhilarating to know that our symptom of legal justice held the line and delivered the right result. Prayers of thanksgiving and blessings for the jurors - keep them safe and help them to have peace with the effect they've had in history. They are unknown heroes.
Not necessarily gifted, although it's a great help for judges to have reasonably high intellects. Judge Merchan has done no more and no less than what should be expected of ALL competent and conscientious trial judges. Unfortunately we live in a time where that standard - at least as it affects this felon - seems to be the exception rather than the rule.
But I guess if they were all republicans, that would be okay? We don’t know what they are, and that’s how it should be. They based their guilty verdicts on the evidence, not on their political views, contrary to how the orange convict would like to structure the justice system.
And courage. Notwithstanding all the precautions, they must all be aware of the possibility that their identities will be revealed and that they will be attacked.
Good news, but not a fatal blow to the man who would be King. Now that the jury has done its job in this matter, the rest of us ought to email the White House to get Garland on board with Raskin's recommendation to have the Department of Justice "petition the other seven justices to require Justices Alito and Thomas to recuse themselves not as a matter of grace but as a matter of law."
Right?!?! I have felt disappointment time and time again since 2016 at all he has gotten by with! I think it wasn’t aware that I literally was holding my political breath this entire time, since 2016!
I have always believed in Hillary and people did not vote for her because they thought she would go to prison. She always said what you see is what you’ll get. This country was cheated!
I wouldnt relax too much - yes, this IS a good thing. But it doesnt mean prison, nor does it keep him from running for president -there's something wrong with THAT little issue.
Still an election to win. For president, the Senate & the House!
Lady justice prevails. Thank you Judge Merchan, thank you jurors, thank you prosecutors, thank you to our media for bringing us the facts through the noise. ⚖️🇺🇸🌟📚
Elect a Democrat majority Congress and re-elect Joe Biden. Get rid of Chief Justice Roberts, and Justice Alito and Justice Thomas. They are terrorizing our legal system with their selfishness and terrible behavior.
Boohoo, Trump just made a statement saying the trial was "rigged" and "a disgrace." Despite his claim that he wasn't surprised by the verdict, he looked like he'd been smacked with a two-by-four.
the Members of the Supreme Court recently reaffirmed the practice we have followed for 235 years pursuant to which individual Justices decide recusal issues.”
Correction it was followed for 230 years before the corrupt current 6-3 majority was seated.
Your final sentence - about offering a private trip to Roberts in order to get on his calendar - was pitch perfect. As to separation of powers precluding a conversation, why can Congressional members meet with the President but not the Judiciary? Moreover, if the Roberts is concerned about the appearance of the judiciary’s independence, surely we are well past the point where appearances matter. If one Supreme Court justice can fly the flags of traitors at his home and another can share intimate bedtime stories with someone who actively tried to overturn the election, we can dispense with pearl clutching over the appearance of independence.
34 is my new FAVORITE number!! Who’s with me?👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Guilty, guilty, guilty plus 31! Now let’s get Cannon recused!!
GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY
Well Bill, now you don’t have to stand on the corner and hawk your book! At least you were able to take part in history when Stormy was on the stand🙏🏼☮️
https://ki6mnk.substack.com/p/guilty
Time to revive an old Nixon era Doonesbury frame from May 29, 1973.
Let's watch on Sunday and see if he drops something in one of the publications he still graces with his humor and insights.
I look forward to it.
I am flying "Old Glory" and I declare this to be a National Holiday.
I just went a got a milkshake to celebrate!
An entirely new meaning to "Memorial Day" (May 30). Remember when justice prevailed.
Sharon Thirty-four trombones are resounding across the country. I’m ready to go out to Zumba with my walker. None of Despicable Donnie’s judicial gyrations can remove the stigma of 34/34.
Sharon New Name: ‘Thirty-Four Trump’
Before you get too happy, be aware that he's not likely to be sentenced to jail.
But at least he's a convicted felon!!!
I would like to add that this is the first time in trump's life that he has been accountable for ANYTHING! The short time the jury took to deliberate convinced me the verdict was guilty on all accounts. Had he testified, it would've taken not more than five minutes....
Sorry, I lied. He has been held accountable twice before in the E Jean Carroll case when he was convicted as a rapist....
If Trump had testified, the prosecution only have to say aLIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE to get a swifter 34/34.
Good point.
Yes. and that's as forever as it gets!
Yes, but he can still run for president, unfortunately. The sad thing is that he's not likely to be sentenced to jail. These are the lowest level of felony above a misdemeanor, and Trump has no prior record and is an old man. In my experience I expect him to get a conditional discharge for one year, meaning that he will only go to jail if he violates the conditions. He might also be ordered to pay a big fine.
I agree, the punishment will probably not match the crime. However- I am beyond grateful and relieved that 1) The Justice system worked this time, and 2) trump is held accountable.
I truly believe the justice system works the vast majority of the time.
I worked in the court system for over 10 years. The one thing I still have strong faith in is the jury system. A jury nailed him in the E. Jean Carroll case, and they just nailed him again. My guess is that those 12 citizens took offense to a rich and powerful man manipulating and lying in order to win the presidency, then using money to keep people quiet about it. It was a rather lurid case, unfitting of a US president.
MAGA will lose support at the fringes, but better, the conviction should influence some "undecided" and "swing" voters and make it easier for us to reach the unregistered who trend Democratic. Register Democratic and sweep the swing states.
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He could still run for president if he were in jail -- and sentence won't be carried out until after his appeal is heard anyway, almost certainly after the election. Though why that is I don't know. Other convicted criminals head straight for the slammer pending sentencing.
I don’t think that sentence has to or needs be stayed while the case is on appeal if it doesn’t include jail time, and I don’t think he’ll get jail time if he obeys his conditions of release and the gag order. Which he will not.
Most sentences in NY are not stayed pending appeal, especially when it's for the convicted felon's benefit. In my 10 years as a clerk in a felony court, I never saw anyone's sentence stayed for any reason.
I would like to see him do some time in jail just to help reality sink into his consciousness somehow. From what I understand, the combination of the gag order violations and the lack of remorse could land him in jail. I think 6 months could make an impression, and I'm sure it would feel like forever to him, even though it isn't. IMO, nothing less is needed to
convince him that he did wrong.
8 hour/ day garbage cleanup in a state park, or possibly repairing park roads?- contained, separated, good honest hard work—good fer the soul. Then, back to a state facility each night. Hell, I’d settle for house arrest with a ankle lojack, even.
Let’s see, how many years would be good????
Life! I love the picture you paint…
I think jail time will depend on what he says between now and sentencing.
True, but he is a convicted felon. The way things stand at this point, as a Florida resident, he is not eligible to vote!
I love it!
Apparently I am wrong here. Per the Washington Post, “Under Florida law, residents convicted of crimes in other states lose their ability to vote in Florida only if they are barred from voting in the state where they committed their offenses…. In New York, where Trump was convicted, felons are barred from voting only while they are incarcerated….”
(The Washington Post, May 31, 2024; The Trump Cases - “Felons Can’t Often Vote in Florida…” by Patrick Marley)
To say I am disappointed is a gross understatement.
NY allows it and Florida has reciprocity for this, so he actually can vote.
According to Justice.gov, if a person has been convicted of a felony (except for murder or a sexual offense), and has completed their sentence including incarceration, parole, and probation, and payment of any fines, fees, court costs, and restitution, then they are eligible to vote. Until then, they are not eligible to vote.
I understand that the law in New York would allow him to vote if he was a resident of New York, but he is now a Florida resident (as you know).
Can you direct me to where it says he is eligible? Thanks.
Listening now to MSNBC, several reasons why he may go to jail 1. Cohen did and was convicted of the same crime and he pleaded guilty, showed remorse and helped the Justice Department. 2. His egregious gag orders weigh in on sentencing and those showed his total disregard for others’ safety 3. His total lack of remorse. If he violates his gag order between now and sentencing, don’t bet on a fine only
I used up all my fervent wishes for 34 Guilty counts. But I hope you are right.
USA Today has an article saying it isn't likely Trump will go to jail because of the logistics of how his Secret Service protection will work. It is likely that Trump will be sentenced to either probation or may serve 2 days a week in jail. Michael Cohen was not convicted of 34 counts of Falsifying Business Records. He was convicted of campaign finance violations and bank fraud.
What makes Trump’s crime a felony is the last part of this sentence, “ Trump falsified the records to try to illegally influence the 2016 presidential election.” WaPo
No kidding. What's your point?
If he is sentenced to jail, the government WILL create a way to incarcerate him. Stop believing that. We can send someone to the moon, but not send a man to prison?
He's not a healthy man--physically, morally, emotionally--and certainly not a man who trusts God to see him through. Factor that into the confinement he may endure.
If ya can’t do the time don’t do the crime
Now if only the Republicans can regroup and nominate a realistic candidate in their convention. I fear otherwise. Groan!
Ruth Ben-Ghiat, in her Substack, "Lucid" has a good column today. Trump's followers, indeed the entire Republican party, have become a cult with unwavering loyalty to their authoritarian leader. For their beliefs and saving face, they will only dig in all the more. They will become more absurd in their justifications. Project 2025 is their Bible, and Trump is their God, no matter his rotten core.
I read her on FB and Twitter and hear her on cable. Keep alert.
Which I'm sure will guarantee that he'll lose bigly in November. He doesn't have enough support to win, and he's going to lose some support. Already, donations to his campaign have flopped.
He's too damn healthy if you ask me.
More like a fungus, which spreads over a body and thrives.
It’s not jail as most mistake. It’s prison. You wait in jail for trial or bail but prison for a sentence.
Actually for short sentences you can remain in jail.
There are legal experts who say he might get a month or two in prison.
I don't care. I doubt an elderly man convicted of low level financial crimes, having no criminal record, will go to jail. If he does, however, I'll be very happy.
Weisellberg is kind of old......
I'm guessing house arrest, with Secret Service supervision. I would like to see him have to do community service, but I can't imagine how he would comply with picking up trash at a nearby park. The best punishment, but it's probably not legal, is to keep him from Social Media for months!
Why wouldn't it be legal? He wouldn't be able to have social media in prison, and home confinement should be somewhat equivalent.
From govtech.com: "Most states do not have laws that specifically prohibit inmates from using social media, though all states prohibit them from possessing cellphones — and many inmates access social media using contraband phones. Others rely on a third party to post for them. (Most prisoners do not have access to computers. A handful of states allow inmates to buy mini-tablets with limited email access that is strictly monitored by prison officials.)"
I think of Freedom of Speech and how T. might howl at his right to communicate with his constituents. (Ugh!) Also, some form of internet use is allowed in confinement, and I will check if that is correct.
Totally agree.
Way back in the 2016 campaign 45 liked to lead the crowd in chanting "Lock her up! Lock her up!" -- although HRC was not officially accused of any crime.
Now that he is a convicted felon, his Karma should return the favor, and treat him to crowds chanting "Lock him up! Lock him up!".
He should be locked up. Somehow, anything less than jail just wouldn't seem like justice.
Trump's lawyers were terrible, basically, but they did nothing to jeopardize the case. Claiming the judge is corrupt is just absurd, and the jury was picked by both sides, so how can it be said that the jury wasn't fair?
Trump claims everything was "rigged," like a child who, when losing at a game of checkers or Old Maid pouts and cries, saying to his opponent, "You cheated!" He's been a loser ever since 2020 and he keeps on losing, which has pushed him over the edge. He cannot accept being a loser, it humiliates him to the point where he instigated violence on Jan 6,.
He will lose again this November.
Marycat, Amen!
I would add that 45 lost the popular vote in 2016.
HRC received 65,844,954 (48.2%) to 45's 62,979,879 (46.1%).
Let us ponder once again why the "Electoral College" makes sense. A substantial majority of Americans voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton, but she did not become President. Instead, what we got was a president who is a career criminal. After November, if we still have a nation that believes in the rule of law, then we should try again to abolish the Electoral College.
Absolutely. The rest of the world wonders why we have such a screwball election system, which was put in place by our founding fathers because they feared the people weren't well informed enough to vote responsibly. The electoral college is antiquated and should have been dispensed with a century ago. It's worst trait is that it's racist, since electors tend to be white people.
So we can now quit it with the cutesy nicknames; his title, now and forever. Is The Convict. Hey! Maybe he'll get his high school diploma while he's in prison!
Oops, that was meant for Kai Kinzer's reply below.
Perhaps he will not go to jail on the felony counts, but there is still the contempt issue. He could... and should see jail time for that.
You know, last night when I couldn’t sleep due to chronic overthinking, I was asking myself what would satisfy me as an outcome in this case, conviction-wise AND sentencing-wise. I finally went to sleep with the clear thought that it was likely going to be a split verdict and that I would be satisfied with one guilty verdict even if the rest were not guilty and/or hung, that if there was simply one conviction I would be satisfied. But that even if it were all not guilty and/or hung or some combination of those two, then the system where I spent my whole career and that I believe in totally, as imperfect as it can be from time to time, still worked because it is a system based on the rule of law and evidence. So I was hoping, unreasonably so I thought then, for a 34 guilty verdict, I didn’t expect it and would still believe in the system of justice in our country. Needless to say, I am very happy with the outcome (she says with a grin).
As far as sentencing, I doubt that the felon orange peel will get prison time unless he continues to violate the gag order and every condition of release that Judge Merchan has set — which is possible, as we know — and I’d be satisfied with a very high fine and a reasonable period on house arrest or no fine and a long period of house arrest, forfeiture of his passport for 2-3 years of probation with reporting requirements.
Could be sentenced to house arrest and community service, walking the highways picking up trash in an Orange suit with Secret Service protection.
Praise Jesus...HE GUILTY...LOCK HIM UP! For cause...34 felony convictions! And as Andrew Weissman was saying today on MSNBC, extenuating circumstances point to a serious sentence: lack of remorse, persistent and vicious DAILY attacks on not only all the principals involved, but the entirety of the American criminal justice system; chronic abuse and defilement of the conditions of bail, on and on. Pass sentence, then echo the classic British judge's final remarks: "TAKE HIM DOWN".
Mine toooooo!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
11 will be mine as soon as the appeals court of that number puts the big sign on cannons chamber door that reads “ out
of service”
A sad day, Trump should never have been President. But it's exhilarating to know that our symptom of legal justice held the line and delivered the right result. Prayers of thanksgiving and blessings for the jurors - keep them safe and help them to have peace with the effect they've had in history. They are unknown heroes.
And Judge (Justice?) Merchan kept a steady hand on the tiller!
Oh yes, he is clearly a gifted judge and this country owes him so much! Perhaps an appointment to the SC??
Not necessarily gifted, although it's a great help for judges to have reasonably high intellects. Judge Merchan has done no more and no less than what should be expected of ALL competent and conscientious trial judges. Unfortunately we live in a time where that standard - at least as it affects this felon - seems to be the exception rather than the rule.
Nope. If re-elected, Biden should appoint much younger men or women.
Good time to expand the court, roberts is clearly in the wrong camp.
Maybe he wouldn’t want that. I’d have to think hard on what it would mean to join that group.
Trump is blaming the jurors, claiming they convicted him because they're Democrats. LOL
Of course he's blaming jurors and anyone else in shouting distance.
Exactly what one would expect from a three year old.
Presumably his attorneys betrayed him, as well.
I wonder if they’ll get paid. Remember: Trump despises losers.
I had the same thought.
But I guess if they were all republicans, that would be okay? We don’t know what they are, and that’s how it should be. They based their guilty verdicts on the evidence, not on their political views, contrary to how the orange convict would like to structure the justice system.
His own lawyers approved of the jurors, so I’m guessing here that said lawyers should start worrying about getting paid 🤣
All in all, a good day for the law and the American justice system. Also for democracy.
Edit to add: And thanks to the jurors for their patience, fortitude and courage.
And courage. Notwithstanding all the precautions, they must all be aware of the possibility that their identities will be revealed and that they will be attacked.
Good news, but not a fatal blow to the man who would be King. Now that the jury has done its job in this matter, the rest of us ought to email the White House to get Garland on board with Raskin's recommendation to have the Department of Justice "petition the other seven justices to require Justices Alito and Thomas to recuse themselves not as a matter of grace but as a matter of law."
Yesssss!
Roberts already responded to Raskin today and said there wouldn’t be even 5 votes.
There would be more if Biden expands the court....must do so to lessen the current judges power.
Biden cannot just “expand” the Court.
I think it would be a pointless exercise.
I feel like I can breathe again.
Right?!?! I have felt disappointment time and time again since 2016 at all he has gotten by with! I think it wasn’t aware that I literally was holding my political breath this entire time, since 2016!
I have always believed in Hillary and people did not vote for her because they thought she would go to prison. She always said what you see is what you’ll get. This country was cheated!
Dani and Irene,
I am with you, and have been right there with you since 2016.
Well said, "holding my political breath this entire time, since 2016!"
As Joyce says,
"We're in this together!"
I wouldnt relax too much - yes, this IS a good thing. But it doesnt mean prison, nor does it keep him from running for president -there's something wrong with THAT little issue.
Still an election to win. For president, the Senate & the House!
Right?!
It took 12 brave New Yorkers to stand up to this onslaught of tyranny! Gotta ❤️ NY!
Justice has been done today!
Not quite -- he was not handcuffed and jailed as most people guilty are. He should have to await his sentencing in jail like other felons.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning" --- Winston Churchill
Thank you — perhaps you are a kindred spirit!
👍👍
Lady justice prevails. Thank you Judge Merchan, thank you jurors, thank you prosecutors, thank you to our media for bringing us the facts through the noise. ⚖️🇺🇸🌟📚
34 -- Counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. Sentencing date, Thurs., 7/11/24.
How do we fix our laws so that a felon cannot run for president?
Elect a Democrat majority Congress and re-elect Joe Biden. Get rid of Chief Justice Roberts, and Justice Alito and Justice Thomas. They are terrorizing our legal system with their selfishness and terrible behavior.
Democratic majority
It’s a great day for justice and the rule of law and affirmation for faith in the jury.
Thanks for helping us get to this moment, Joyce
Boohoo, Trump just made a statement saying the trial was "rigged" and "a disgrace." Despite his claim that he wasn't surprised by the verdict, he looked like he'd been smacked with a two-by-four.
Yes, he certainly did, didn't he!!
LOL he should look on the bright side - he could be Chad Daybell.
Doesn’t he just have the most sophisticated and diverse vocabulary?
He always looks like that.....
He was so faded I thought perhaps he'd cried his makeup off.
the Members of the Supreme Court recently reaffirmed the practice we have followed for 235 years pursuant to which individual Justices decide recusal issues.”
Correction it was followed for 230 years before the corrupt current 6-3 majority was seated.
Your final sentence - about offering a private trip to Roberts in order to get on his calendar - was pitch perfect. As to separation of powers precluding a conversation, why can Congressional members meet with the President but not the Judiciary? Moreover, if the Roberts is concerned about the appearance of the judiciary’s independence, surely we are well past the point where appearances matter. If one Supreme Court justice can fly the flags of traitors at his home and another can share intimate bedtime stories with someone who actively tried to overturn the election, we can dispense with pearl clutching over the appearance of independence.
Perfectly stated, Amy!