Apologies—the link I used last night for you to read the District Attorney’s Sandoval filing didn’t work, because it was the copy I’d saved to my personal computer. Here’s a link that will work: DA Filing. More later. JoyceCivil Discourse with Joyce Vance is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.
First, thank you for sharing the joyful pictures of your 'menagerie'. They always brighten my day.
I want to add an observation on your comments about wanting a televised trial for the election-interference case against trump in Manhattan. I offer this from the perspective of a 'retired' lawyer and a citizen of this country.
I am delighted that there will be no broadcasting from the courtroom. In light of trump's on-going intimidation of any jurors, and the media's obsession with focusing on their personal details in such a manner that can give rise to identifying them. we have already seen one juror be dismissed because of her her justifiable fear of violence as too many people were able to identify her from the media's publication about employment. Even if the cameras were not allowed to show the jurors' faces, there would, inevitably be a slip up and something would be shown.
With the danger that this man poses to those he views as against him, we do well to mitigate the possibilities of having any of his violence-prone followers learn who is sitting on the jury; and possibly this helps protect those who work in the courtroom through no choice of their own.
As it is now, I have concerns that each week that this trial goes on will give more opportunity to harass, intimidate and ultimately imperil the trial.
Is there some way to censure Marjorie Taylor Greene after all the outlandish, dare I say, stupid ammendments to the the military procurement packages ?
Sharing this update as I haven't seen much coverage and it deserves a lot, a shame they did it with a confidentiality provision, please Smartmatic do not do this for FOX, Powell, Lindell or Guiliani cases, while I am glad you were compensated, America deserves to see these cases in Court.
I can’t thank you enough for your posts as we live through a historical time in America’s history. I look forward to reading your comments with my morning coffee- you help me understand and process these terrifying times.
And of course- to prove that all is not over- your garden, chickens, dog, cat and drawings add some balance to a world gone crazy.
Joyce, sharing the details of the Sandoval motion is an amazing bird’s eye view of DJTs persistent behaviors that have already been brought to and adjudicated by the court system as well as a few that remain outstanding. To me it’s a powerful reminder of how our current culture is focused on the bright shine object of the day (the NY case) and as a consequence we usually fail to integrate the accumulation of events that have led today. And even more problematic some media platforms have and are using their attention economies to distort and/or hide this information from their follower while others may mention it but use short cuts so as to focus on the craziness of the moment versus emphasizing what Bragg has done to get us to see the big picture. Furthermore individuals caught up in the “post truth culture” actively embodied by DJT will actively dismiss this information because to them whatever they think is true allows them to discredit everything else. No wonder the autocrats now aligned in their “axle of resistance” find the US to be easy pickings for disrupting our sense of solidarity as a nation in both domestic and foreign affairs.
Thank you. I think of you while watching Vaughn Hilliard reel off minute-to-minute accounts about what’s happening in the NY courtroom, in contrast to the streaming audio in the federal courts, and especially the live broadcast from the Georgia RICO. The public deserves to see and hear all of the cases involving Trump.
Joyce,
First, thank you for sharing the joyful pictures of your 'menagerie'. They always brighten my day.
I want to add an observation on your comments about wanting a televised trial for the election-interference case against trump in Manhattan. I offer this from the perspective of a 'retired' lawyer and a citizen of this country.
I am delighted that there will be no broadcasting from the courtroom. In light of trump's on-going intimidation of any jurors, and the media's obsession with focusing on their personal details in such a manner that can give rise to identifying them. we have already seen one juror be dismissed because of her her justifiable fear of violence as too many people were able to identify her from the media's publication about employment. Even if the cameras were not allowed to show the jurors' faces, there would, inevitably be a slip up and something would be shown.
With the danger that this man poses to those he views as against him, we do well to mitigate the possibilities of having any of his violence-prone followers learn who is sitting on the jury; and possibly this helps protect those who work in the courtroom through no choice of their own.
As it is now, I have concerns that each week that this trial goes on will give more opportunity to harass, intimidate and ultimately imperil the trial.
OMG! When you see all this in one place - what a scumbag! LOCK HIM UP!
Is there some way to censure Marjorie Taylor Greene after all the outlandish, dare I say, stupid ammendments to the the military procurement packages ?
Sharing this update as I haven't seen much coverage and it deserves a lot, a shame they did it with a confidentiality provision, please Smartmatic do not do this for FOX, Powell, Lindell or Guiliani cases, while I am glad you were compensated, America deserves to see these cases in Court.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-voting-machines-settlement-smartmatic-oann_n_661f8e6ae4b0256906b6e995
Joyce
I can’t thank you enough for your posts as we live through a historical time in America’s history. I look forward to reading your comments with my morning coffee- you help me understand and process these terrifying times.
And of course- to prove that all is not over- your garden, chickens, dog, cat and drawings add some balance to a world gone crazy.
Thank you again!
Joyce, don’t you ever sleep?
Joyce, sharing the details of the Sandoval motion is an amazing bird’s eye view of DJTs persistent behaviors that have already been brought to and adjudicated by the court system as well as a few that remain outstanding. To me it’s a powerful reminder of how our current culture is focused on the bright shine object of the day (the NY case) and as a consequence we usually fail to integrate the accumulation of events that have led today. And even more problematic some media platforms have and are using their attention economies to distort and/or hide this information from their follower while others may mention it but use short cuts so as to focus on the craziness of the moment versus emphasizing what Bragg has done to get us to see the big picture. Furthermore individuals caught up in the “post truth culture” actively embodied by DJT will actively dismiss this information because to them whatever they think is true allows them to discredit everything else. No wonder the autocrats now aligned in their “axle of resistance” find the US to be easy pickings for disrupting our sense of solidarity as a nation in both domestic and foreign affairs.
My guess is that Trump does not stand with respect is because he still considers himself President when everyone stood up for him.
Got it! Thank you Professor.
WOW! Personal files from Joyce Vance. Priceless!!
One word. Wow. Thanks for the constant objective clarity.
Amazing how low the bar is for running for President.
Pulling no punches. Good!
Thank you. I think of you while watching Vaughn Hilliard reel off minute-to-minute accounts about what’s happening in the NY courtroom, in contrast to the streaming audio in the federal courts, and especially the live broadcast from the Georgia RICO. The public deserves to see and hear all of the cases involving Trump.
God bless you Joyce Vance.❤
Thank you Joyce for posting this. Very fascinating.