Today, Donald Trump issued what can only be construed as a shot across the bow, after the Magistrate Judge Moxila Upadhyaya admonished him during arraignment yesterday that he must not commit any new crimes while on a pre-trial bond—the thing that’s keeping him out of jail before trial—and that efforts to influence or intimidate witnesses, jurors or others involved in the case were illegal.
Meaningless warnings if the judge doesn’t take action. And so far no judge has stopped Trump from trying to run the trial in public (at rallies and Truth Social) as we all know he will refuse to testify in court. Why do they let him get away with this. The longer this goes on the worse he will get and there will definitely be blood on the streets from his MAGA supporters. I’m very depressed how everyone seems so afraid of him and MAGA and allow this.
" Trump is on notice that his words provoke people to violence...." I imagine that Trump takes it as a compliment - not a warning - that he can provoke people to violence. He loves knowing he has so many obedient followers and that he can tie the DOJ and judges in knots while Jack Smith focuses on getting a trial started. This is how he's lived his miserable, worthless life. Pathetic - and dangerous.
I don' think this is an attempt to intimidate Smith or other officials, I think it is an attempt, nay a threat to those who might have flipped or are thinking about flipping. I think he is capable of anything; remember he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue...I truly believe he is capable of hiring hit men. Has anyone, but me wondered why the two employees charged with Trump in Florida are not flipping on him. Are their families safe? I don't know, but I do feel in my bones he is capable of the worst imaginable.
At some point, his blustering threats must be met with consequences. Regardless of what anyone on his side believes, he has been warned, and thus far he has NEVER been held responsible for any of his actions, outside of the E. Jean Cameron case. Time to make him pay like any other 2-bit crook. Thanks, Joyce. Carry on.
I think the fact that he is walking around and not incarcerated is a reflection of our two- tiered system of justice, one for entitled, wealthy people and one for folks with no legal or financial support. Additionally, because of his political position and past presidency, I suspect Smith and the judge fear taking any further action, inflaming his base and bringing further charges of "witch hunt" from delusional or dishonest Republucans. And so for now he can go on being Donald and disregarding normal rules and protocols. I have to remind myself that this is a marathon not a sprint, but oh my gosh I can't WAIT for the trial that will finally bring an end to his criminality and give us the justice we all deserve.
Oh for heaven's sake. Enough is enough. This guy is dangerous. Lock him up and take that damn phone away. Toddlers are more mature than this blister on society.
Menacing- that is the primary stance that malignant narcissistic authoritarians like trump always project out at and into their victims, as they relentlessly dominate others through inflicting inescapable fear. It’s the instilling of constant terror in every family member to obtain total submission to the abuser that I’ve seen, that mirrors trump’s menacing presence writ large. The message is- “If you ever challenge my power and authority over you in any way, you will pay severely- there is no escaping the harm I can and will inflict on you.” Of course this is the classic way that ruthless rulers and dictators have operated throughout history. As trump enters his nightmare of having to sit silently in court day after day for weeks on end, as scores of witnesses reveal the details of his crimes, it’s quite possible he will become so filled with inchoate rage, that he will become emotionally incapacitated and be unable to function. I’m not wishing that on him at all, but for inflated, grandiose and predatory narcissists like him, the ordeal ahead where he will feel so helpless and powerless, is really going to be a horror. For me, I hope justice is fairly served. I will always mourn the hundreds of thousands of Americans that needlessly died because of his criminal and heartless negligence during the pandemic when he was president.
There was a disturbance in Union Square NYC this afternoon. It involved numerous police cars rushing through our nearby neighborhood to establish order. One of my neighbors and I discussed it later in the evening. We both thought his supporters were either protesting or attacking. Reality is the incident had nothing to do with him, but suspect these thoughts and reactions will occur frequently during the rest of the Summer and beyond.
Thank you Joyce for informing how each step, and response, should happen as a reaction to his abhorrent message on a social network.
"If you go after me..."
Good on Jack Smith for flagging this so quickly to the judge.
I really hope they put him in jail soon, he is a danger to our society
Meaningless warnings if the judge doesn’t take action. And so far no judge has stopped Trump from trying to run the trial in public (at rallies and Truth Social) as we all know he will refuse to testify in court. Why do they let him get away with this. The longer this goes on the worse he will get and there will definitely be blood on the streets from his MAGA supporters. I’m very depressed how everyone seems so afraid of him and MAGA and allow this.
" Trump is on notice that his words provoke people to violence...." I imagine that Trump takes it as a compliment - not a warning - that he can provoke people to violence. He loves knowing he has so many obedient followers and that he can tie the DOJ and judges in knots while Jack Smith focuses on getting a trial started. This is how he's lived his miserable, worthless life. Pathetic - and dangerous.
I don' think this is an attempt to intimidate Smith or other officials, I think it is an attempt, nay a threat to those who might have flipped or are thinking about flipping. I think he is capable of anything; remember he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue...I truly believe he is capable of hiring hit men. Has anyone, but me wondered why the two employees charged with Trump in Florida are not flipping on him. Are their families safe? I don't know, but I do feel in my bones he is capable of the worst imaginable.
“If you go after me, I’m coming after you!”
Said every in-danger-of-being-toppled-soon mob boss, ever.
At some point, his blustering threats must be met with consequences. Regardless of what anyone on his side believes, he has been warned, and thus far he has NEVER been held responsible for any of his actions, outside of the E. Jean Cameron case. Time to make him pay like any other 2-bit crook. Thanks, Joyce. Carry on.
I think the fact that he is walking around and not incarcerated is a reflection of our two- tiered system of justice, one for entitled, wealthy people and one for folks with no legal or financial support. Additionally, because of his political position and past presidency, I suspect Smith and the judge fear taking any further action, inflaming his base and bringing further charges of "witch hunt" from delusional or dishonest Republucans. And so for now he can go on being Donald and disregarding normal rules and protocols. I have to remind myself that this is a marathon not a sprint, but oh my gosh I can't WAIT for the trial that will finally bring an end to his criminality and give us the justice we all deserve.
Why can’t she issue a gag order to prevent him from saying ANYTHING about the case or about ANYONE involved in it?
Oh for heaven's sake. Enough is enough. This guy is dangerous. Lock him up and take that damn phone away. Toddlers are more mature than this blister on society.
Lock. Him. Up.
Knew it would come but that sure didn't take long!!!
He's a clear threat. LOCK HIM UP.
Menacing- that is the primary stance that malignant narcissistic authoritarians like trump always project out at and into their victims, as they relentlessly dominate others through inflicting inescapable fear. It’s the instilling of constant terror in every family member to obtain total submission to the abuser that I’ve seen, that mirrors trump’s menacing presence writ large. The message is- “If you ever challenge my power and authority over you in any way, you will pay severely- there is no escaping the harm I can and will inflict on you.” Of course this is the classic way that ruthless rulers and dictators have operated throughout history. As trump enters his nightmare of having to sit silently in court day after day for weeks on end, as scores of witnesses reveal the details of his crimes, it’s quite possible he will become so filled with inchoate rage, that he will become emotionally incapacitated and be unable to function. I’m not wishing that on him at all, but for inflated, grandiose and predatory narcissists like him, the ordeal ahead where he will feel so helpless and powerless, is really going to be a horror. For me, I hope justice is fairly served. I will always mourn the hundreds of thousands of Americans that needlessly died because of his criminal and heartless negligence during the pandemic when he was president.
There was a disturbance in Union Square NYC this afternoon. It involved numerous police cars rushing through our nearby neighborhood to establish order. One of my neighbors and I discussed it later in the evening. We both thought his supporters were either protesting or attacking. Reality is the incident had nothing to do with him, but suspect these thoughts and reactions will occur frequently during the rest of the Summer and beyond.
Thank you Joyce for informing how each step, and response, should happen as a reaction to his abhorrent message on a social network.
He cannot stop "crimeing"