I really think it is time, and past time for some Democrats in the House of Representatives to screw up their courage and file papers of impeachment against Alito and Thomas at least, on the grounds of Article III Section 1, stating that they serve during good behavior. Accepting gifts exceeding the value of $10 (that is all teachers and…
I really think it is time, and past time for some Democrats in the House of Representatives to screw up their courage and file papers of impeachment against Alito and Thomas at least, on the grounds of Article III Section 1, stating that they serve during good behavior. Accepting gifts exceeding the value of $10 (that is all teachers and County workers were allowed to receive as gifts) amounts to a bribe Further neither Alito nor Thomas recused themselves in hearing cases brought to the Supreme Court by entities in which their benefactors were involved. Actually I think all six ignoble justices should face trials of impeachment for failure to uphold the Constitution as written. The mere fact of being raised to the highest Court in the land does not give them the right to interpret the written words of the Constitution to align with their personal prejudices or religious biases. The main reason the United States of America has succeeded in this Great Experiment of Democracy for 236 years is the vast majority of us respect the law. This Supreme Court is causing us to question that respect.
Emotionally, I agree. Practically speaking it is whistling in the wind. We don't have the votes. Such an effort meets MY criteria for justice. Alito and Thomas are crooks. Roberts and Gorsuch are compromised by their associations (wife and mother).
But count the votes. Then come back in January 2025 after we have our Blue Trifecta and introduce a slew of bills. Impeachment, code of conduct, term limits, expand the court.
Right now? Ask the DOJ if they are appointing special prosecutors for the financial "errors" of these clowns.
Yes, I agree with you Bill. I just think it wouldn't hurt to get some bills of impeachment written. No, nothing will happen before 2025, and then only if we retake the House of Representatives and get a firmer hold on the Senate (enough that we don't need to rely on Manchin and Sinema) I like your idea of requesting the DOJ to look into the "financial errors"; although that is what the IRS should be doing as they cheated on their taxes. That's not likely to happen while the 'do nothings' aka GOP, control the House of Representatives.
It has occurred to me that the whole reporting of bennies issue could be solved by changing the law to forbid TAKING the bennies, not just reporting them. (Problems of small gifts could be handled with a minimum value threshold as could the idea of personal hospitality when it's just going out to dinner.)
The law should explicitly state that violation of that statute is a "high crime or misdemeanor". That's to prevent the reaction to impeachment of so many GOP Senators in the first impeachment--"well, I agree they proved that he did try to suborn a foreign leader for political gain, but I just don't think that's an impeachable offense."
Given the current state of the Congress, just how far do you think trying to impeach a Supreme Court justice will get? Indignation never has worked very well as a tactic and will just further stir up the resistance to rationality. We need to play the long game, no matter how it feels right now. The most important goal right now is to keep the government as functional as we can. The place to be focusing our efforts is at the state and local level, because that is where the payoff in 2014 will be. And if we do our jobs, we can win. Instead of wringing our hands about the SC decisions, get the word out about what impact they could have on people in your community. And don't forget: these two decisions are particularly weak ones.
Now let's get busy putting our energy where it will do some good- getting out the vote in 2024, and supporting state and local candidates who understand what the Constitution for what it was meant to be.
I really think it is time, and past time for some Democrats in the House of Representatives to screw up their courage and file papers of impeachment against Alito and Thomas at least, on the grounds of Article III Section 1, stating that they serve during good behavior. Accepting gifts exceeding the value of $10 (that is all teachers and County workers were allowed to receive as gifts) amounts to a bribe Further neither Alito nor Thomas recused themselves in hearing cases brought to the Supreme Court by entities in which their benefactors were involved. Actually I think all six ignoble justices should face trials of impeachment for failure to uphold the Constitution as written. The mere fact of being raised to the highest Court in the land does not give them the right to interpret the written words of the Constitution to align with their personal prejudices or religious biases. The main reason the United States of America has succeeded in this Great Experiment of Democracy for 236 years is the vast majority of us respect the law. This Supreme Court is causing us to question that respect.
Emotionally, I agree. Practically speaking it is whistling in the wind. We don't have the votes. Such an effort meets MY criteria for justice. Alito and Thomas are crooks. Roberts and Gorsuch are compromised by their associations (wife and mother).
But count the votes. Then come back in January 2025 after we have our Blue Trifecta and introduce a slew of bills. Impeachment, code of conduct, term limits, expand the court.
Right now? Ask the DOJ if they are appointing special prosecutors for the financial "errors" of these clowns.
Yes, I agree with you Bill. I just think it wouldn't hurt to get some bills of impeachment written. No, nothing will happen before 2025, and then only if we retake the House of Representatives and get a firmer hold on the Senate (enough that we don't need to rely on Manchin and Sinema) I like your idea of requesting the DOJ to look into the "financial errors"; although that is what the IRS should be doing as they cheated on their taxes. That's not likely to happen while the 'do nothings' aka GOP, control the House of Representatives.
It has occurred to me that the whole reporting of bennies issue could be solved by changing the law to forbid TAKING the bennies, not just reporting them. (Problems of small gifts could be handled with a minimum value threshold as could the idea of personal hospitality when it's just going out to dinner.)
The law should explicitly state that violation of that statute is a "high crime or misdemeanor". That's to prevent the reaction to impeachment of so many GOP Senators in the first impeachment--"well, I agree they proved that he did try to suborn a foreign leader for political gain, but I just don't think that's an impeachable offense."
Or Leonard Leo at center of money laundering RICO case.
Yes!!!
We don’t question that respect. They do.
"screw up their courage" -- Dems are so bad at that! Handwringing isn't going to help!
They need a plan of action. A legal one though, as opposed to the Republicans.
Given the current state of the Congress, just how far do you think trying to impeach a Supreme Court justice will get? Indignation never has worked very well as a tactic and will just further stir up the resistance to rationality. We need to play the long game, no matter how it feels right now. The most important goal right now is to keep the government as functional as we can. The place to be focusing our efforts is at the state and local level, because that is where the payoff in 2014 will be. And if we do our jobs, we can win. Instead of wringing our hands about the SC decisions, get the word out about what impact they could have on people in your community. And don't forget: these two decisions are particularly weak ones.
Now let's get busy putting our energy where it will do some good- getting out the vote in 2024, and supporting state and local candidates who understand what the Constitution for what it was meant to be.