I see I'm still amongst the group of that continues to stay up for the LATE SHOW from Joyce. Gosh, isn't trump the most abhorred person on the planet? How pitiful he is. One would think by all the kowtowing that went on in his cabinet meeting yesterday or the day before that he was the MOST loved man, the smartest person on Planet trump. But, I hasten to say that he is the most corrupt man ever to hold the position he has. How anyone on either side of the political spectrum could possibly maintain that he has the wherewithal to run our country in a proper fashion. It boggles the mind & honestly sickens me to listen to them give him undeserved praise daily. One would think his ego could be filled to the max as if he were a Tesla being charged up every 300 miles. He stays in "what have you done for me lately" mode & you better bring a stick of soft margarine to butter up his butt or be relieved of your position. E. Jean Carroll really toasted his butt in court though. She can smile about that every day. One more thing: trump cannot hide from the fact that he is a convicted felon, who should never had been allowed to run for any office. We lost the country on that one shirking of the Constitution, plus SCOTUS giving trump immunity. He is a crook every day, and it is on full display. I yield back my time.
William, well-said!! Since in Trumplandia, Trump is the only one who matters, he is the "smartest" one there and his "cabinet" prove it every time the Trump cartel is together. They have to bring their best smooching mouths because they know they were only picked for the positions they now hold because they were the least competent, least respected, most willing to smooch on a regular basis Trump and his white house toddler pool could find. They know they would have no recognition were they not Trump's toddler pals, so will do whatever they must to stay in "good graces" with the jerk-in-chief. Some would call that smart; I call it sycophancy or Trump Derangement Syndrome!
How much self respect and self dignity must a cabinet member flush down the toilet just to have those pissy jobs? How embarassed their spouse's, children and family must feel to see the groveling and ass kissing their loved one must do just to keep that job. Degrading for all except O Great One. There's no such thing as having a job that you can't walk away from, especially under these circumstances.
wow / crazy / really. This is worrisome, think they are people who have simply tuned out or they never followed contemporary issues? How do we educate without insulting?
I would point out that elon musk is right up there with trump in being hated by the world. The dismantling of US AID was enough to gain him that status.
I used to think that the elongated muskrat could be one of the most intelligent humans on the planet to achieve so much. Now I know he is just quite clever in technical matters but without too much intelligence where it really counts. Maybe material success has addled his brain.
The material success that has allowed him to be constantly on ketamine probably contributed to the addling. I agree that he doesn't have too much intelligence where it really counts.
I remember, as we all do, his comment before the election, "I'm your retribution", like he was doing this for us and people thought that was okay? I knew right away along with all of us here exactly what he meant, and of course it was "his retribution" against anything and anyone who had ever dissed him. All anyone has to do is look at John Cornyn of TX, boom retribution.................next?
Such a fantastic review and discussion of E Jean's case, Joyce. So appalling that our DOJ, media headlining is so misleading,vicious and just plain corrupt, all to appease t's vendetta. Yech.
Your friend (and heart-friend to our nation!) deserves praise and so much gratitude. Thanks for writing and caring so deeply!
JoAn, The thing that is hardest for me to understand is the media's allegiance to Trump instead of to the truth. They must know what Trump is, but maybe they are trying to cover for the fact that they helped to create Donald Trump and get him into the spotlight. Even back then, those media guys must have known what Trump was, yet did the dirt anyway.
Diane, Trumplandia has no clue what "good" is. They love waste as long as it distracts us all from the harm they are doing to everyone who is not them.
And as long as the waste excites DJT, e.g., building a UFC cage fight on the front lawn of the White House. It may not be the ultimate embarrassment for our country, but it's among those at the top--for me!
Not to mention wasting tax payer money on all his ridiculous vanity projects. How many of us have always dreamed of having a cage fight at the white house? It broke my heart to see that tasteless spectacle being erected and towering over what was once our beautiful white house. I can't really understand how E. Jean has not been paid by now. Our system of endless appeals is beyond comprehension, and seems to definitely favor the criminals.
Thank you for breaking this down so clearly. E. Jean should be paid and Felon 47 should just learn to accept he got caught being the scum he is.
What is truly bothering me is that WE THE PEOPLE are paying the salaries and costs of all this bull-hockey legal activity being done on behalf of a mentally deficient man-child demanding legal action to assuage his desire for revenge and his massive insecurities. Can't he or the DOJ be held accountable for what is becoming a multitude of spurious and actually baseless legal actions wasting the court's time? It really appears he is using the DOJ for his crazy legal claims because he can have them do it and the taxpayers cover any expenses.
I would like to see the costs added together - for the stupid war in Iran; the slush fund; the ripping out the rose garden; the destruction of the East Wing and his plans for building his crass ballroom; the ICE goons; the concentration camps; the gold gee-gaws everywhere; the trashing of the reflecting pool; his weekend trips to Florida; the building of the whatever it is for cage fighting on his birthday; the proposed ego arch -- all of this spending on vanity, absurdity or cruelty on our dime while droning on about 'waste, fraud and abuse' -- when he represents all of those things.
I wonder if we could apply for compensation from the slush fund for the economic and pyschic pain caused to us by the DOJ. Just imagine if millions of us filed. ; )
We're paying for it all: gold plating on everything, destroyed buildings, destroyed reflecting pool that will never again reflect anything, a structure for a UFC cage fight on the White House lawn, and much more. We're paying. The US is evidently DJT's private bank account to withdraw whatever he wants. How did this happen? I guess one way it's happened is that Congress approved people for his cabinet who will do anything he wants, just as they do.
HOPEFULLY his crimes and theft will be dealt with by a future government that actually has read and follows the Constitution and the laws. We will need a GOP Congress that actually means what they swear to in their Oath of Office. We will also need to put a real halt to the grifting and insider trading crap that has turned Congressional and administration positions into money grabbing and bowing to the wishes of Felon47 instead of actually representing the people and the country.
"DOJ doesn’t typically investigate perjury in a deposition in a civil case that doesn’t involve the government."
But . . . for the Supreme Court majority and Trump's lawyers (fairly indistinguishable at this point) Trump is the government. Which, in the case of Congress asking for Trump's tax returns, allowed Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow to argue that as the release would distract Trump, and that Trump is the Executive Branch, releasing the tax returns was a threat to the entire government and to national security. And as established in the two presidential immunity cases.
And, as we are aware, if Trump's returns were all shipshape and Bristol fashion, then there would not be a thing in the world about them that would distract him.
The government should be required to pay the legal expenses of any subject of an investigation when that investigation is dismissed due to lack of evidence or evidence of subjective prosecution, with additional, substantial penalties (damages). In other words, unless you've really got something, don't go to court. This may require legislation, once the MAGAts in Congress are driven out.
Good idea, James. Perhaps if the US Attorney proceeds with a case against Carroll, her attorneys could in effect countersue for costs and damages. After all, Joyce reminded us of the harm that occurs in cases like this: “…simply subjecting a person to investigation is harmful; it’s costly, it’s stressful, and there can be reputational damage whether there is ultimately an indictment, let alone a conviction, or not.”
Is it possible that the USSC will just sit on the E Jean Carroll appeal indefinitely so as to prevent Trump from ever having to pay her damages? If they want to protect Trump, then of course they could just hear the case and reverse the damages award, but they could also sit on it and wait for Carroll to die. But I guess in that event her estate would inherit the claim and could keep the lawsuit alive. Nevertheless, it sure looks like they’re taking their time with this appeal to delay, delay, the way Trump always likes to do when he’s in legal trouble.
This is an important point. When the MAGAt majority disappears from Congress and the new regime takes over, Supreme Court reform will have to head the agenda. One aspect of that reform will have to be a time limit on cases accepted by the Court. Absent a SCOTUS ruling within that time limit, the lower court ruling is automatically upheld.
Not a chance, Susan, unless there’s a filibuster-proof non-MAGAt majority in place in January 27. The chances of that happening, even with a blue tsunami in November, are really remote. Even then, members of that majority might have some reservations about certain aspects of the proposed reform. So not gonna happen anytime soon. But it’s nice to dream. :-)
As I understand the stay that has been issued, it is a temporary stay.
Here is what I have found to give detail:
Case: 24-644, 05/11/2026, DktEntry: 157.1, Page 1 of 1
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE
SECOND CIRCUIT
At a Stated Term of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, held at the Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse, 40 Foley Square, in the City of New York, on the 11th day of May, two thousand twenty-six.
Before: Denny Chin,
Sarah A. L. Merriam,
Maria Araújo Kahn,
Circuit Judges.
________________________________
E. Jean Carroll, Plaintiff-Counter-Defendant-Appellee, v. Donald Trump, in his personal capacity, Defendant-Counter-Claimant-Appellant.
ORDER
Docket No. 24-644
________________________________
Appellant moves for a stay of the Court’s mandate pending filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari in the Supreme Court. Appellee does not oppose the motion on the condition that Appellant increase the bond by $7,462,492.74 to account for the post-judgment interest that would accrue during any proceedings before the Supreme Court through October 2027.
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that Appellant’s motion to stay the mandate is GRANTED, subject to the condition that the Appellant increase the bond posted by $7,462,492.74 to account for the post-judgment interest that would accrue during any proceedings before the Supreme Court through October 2027. Appellant must increase the bond within 21 days of the date of this order, with notice to be provided to the Court within five calendar days of that happening.
For the Court:
Catherine O’Hagan Wolfe,
Clerk of Court
////////////
can anyone confirm that this is the meaning, that the temporary stay is in effect as per described above, and that the Oct 2027 is material to this understanding of temporary?
Our understanding of this important to each of us.
Blanche was trump's personal lawyer. He and his department are pursuing individuals and cases that reinforce the impression that he is still, first and foremost, Trump's lawyer. I hope that even Chuck Grassley can see the forest for the trees and conclude, or at least acknowledge that should "Acting" be removed from Blanche's title, little will change. Critics who claim he remains Trump's personal lawyer and that he supports vindictive, politically driven prosecutions will have a lot to go on.
Trump seems to think that the entire cabinet, not just the AG, is his personal staff. Ditto the Republicans in Congress. What's alarming is that the cabinet members, the senators, and the representatives seem to agree.
It is just so childish and harmful that Trump's stooges Blanche and others at DOJ are allowed to participate in and orchestrate "revenge prosecution, then to make it work for Baby Donnie. Blanche is allowed to court-shop to find a district most likely to also want to participate in the "investigation" and potential indictment of someone who has stood against Trump. It seems to me that such revenge prosecution should be grounds for disbarment, but it seems no one even slightly related to Baby Donnie is held accountable and some of the things they have done are appalling and had anyone else done them, they would have been charged, indicted, and probably convicted.
Thank you for such detailed information and explanation… you’re going to have to take off tomorrow and just show the chickens 😊
Agree
Thank you Joyce for the detailed explanation— it’s maddening and unfair to our beloved E. Jean. I have Ben writing about this all day since I heard.
E.Jean is a national treasure and deserves none of this dreck from donold and corrupt blanch. Blech.
I see I'm still amongst the group of that continues to stay up for the LATE SHOW from Joyce. Gosh, isn't trump the most abhorred person on the planet? How pitiful he is. One would think by all the kowtowing that went on in his cabinet meeting yesterday or the day before that he was the MOST loved man, the smartest person on Planet trump. But, I hasten to say that he is the most corrupt man ever to hold the position he has. How anyone on either side of the political spectrum could possibly maintain that he has the wherewithal to run our country in a proper fashion. It boggles the mind & honestly sickens me to listen to them give him undeserved praise daily. One would think his ego could be filled to the max as if he were a Tesla being charged up every 300 miles. He stays in "what have you done for me lately" mode & you better bring a stick of soft margarine to butter up his butt or be relieved of your position. E. Jean Carroll really toasted his butt in court though. She can smile about that every day. One more thing: trump cannot hide from the fact that he is a convicted felon, who should never had been allowed to run for any office. We lost the country on that one shirking of the Constitution, plus SCOTUS giving trump immunity. He is a crook every day, and it is on full display. I yield back my time.
William, well-said!! Since in Trumplandia, Trump is the only one who matters, he is the "smartest" one there and his "cabinet" prove it every time the Trump cartel is together. They have to bring their best smooching mouths because they know they were only picked for the positions they now hold because they were the least competent, least respected, most willing to smooch on a regular basis Trump and his white house toddler pool could find. They know they would have no recognition were they not Trump's toddler pals, so will do whatever they must to stay in "good graces" with the jerk-in-chief. Some would call that smart; I call it sycophancy or Trump Derangement Syndrome!
How much self respect and self dignity must a cabinet member flush down the toilet just to have those pissy jobs? How embarassed their spouse's, children and family must feel to see the groveling and ass kissing their loved one must do just to keep that job. Degrading for all except O Great One. There's no such thing as having a job that you can't walk away from, especially under these circumstances.
they spend the $ and don't question the source. I was at a party over Memorial Day and a lot of people there had not seen the trump Jesus pic...
wow / crazy / really. This is worrisome, think they are people who have simply tuned out or they never followed contemporary issues? How do we educate without insulting?
I'd like to ask all these politicians and cabinet members if their family members would be proud of how they're acting.
Don Jr's new father-in-law was Epstein's banker & proud of it!
jimmy kimmel had a terrific take on that cabinet meeting in his Wed night show. hilarious and accurate.
I would point out that elon musk is right up there with trump in being hated by the world. The dismantling of US AID was enough to gain him that status.
I used to think that the elongated muskrat could be one of the most intelligent humans on the planet to achieve so much. Now I know he is just quite clever in technical matters but without too much intelligence where it really counts. Maybe material success has addled his brain.
Please don’t insult muskrats!
The material success that has allowed him to be constantly on ketamine probably contributed to the addling. I agree that he doesn't have too much intelligence where it really counts.
I remember, as we all do, his comment before the election, "I'm your retribution", like he was doing this for us and people thought that was okay? I knew right away along with all of us here exactly what he meant, and of course it was "his retribution" against anything and anyone who had ever dissed him. All anyone has to do is look at John Cornyn of TX, boom retribution.................next?
Hopefully Coryn will vote his conscience now!
Such a fantastic review and discussion of E Jean's case, Joyce. So appalling that our DOJ, media headlining is so misleading,vicious and just plain corrupt, all to appease t's vendetta. Yech.
Your friend (and heart-friend to our nation!) deserves praise and so much gratitude. Thanks for writing and caring so deeply!
JoAn, The thing that is hardest for me to understand is the media's allegiance to Trump instead of to the truth. They must know what Trump is, but maybe they are trying to cover for the fact that they helped to create Donald Trump and get him into the spotlight. Even back then, those media guys must have known what Trump was, yet did the dirt anyway.
Look who owns the media.
yep!
Cabinet is willing to do his dirty work...where is their conscience? Add the to the list...
When will all this crap end? Waste, waste, waste of time, energy, that could be directed toward good. Power to the people!
Nothing, absolutely nothing is ever directed toward the good in the Trump Administration.
good bye would be nice
Diane, Trumplandia has no clue what "good" is. They love waste as long as it distracts us all from the harm they are doing to everyone who is not them.
And as long as the waste excites DJT, e.g., building a UFC cage fight on the front lawn of the White House. It may not be the ultimate embarrassment for our country, but it's among those at the top--for me!
USAID money,snap,medicaid, etc. trump is soooo awful
Not to mention wasting tax payer money on all his ridiculous vanity projects. How many of us have always dreamed of having a cage fight at the white house? It broke my heart to see that tasteless spectacle being erected and towering over what was once our beautiful white house. I can't really understand how E. Jean has not been paid by now. Our system of endless appeals is beyond comprehension, and seems to definitely favor the criminals.
Thank you for breaking this down so clearly. E. Jean should be paid and Felon 47 should just learn to accept he got caught being the scum he is.
What is truly bothering me is that WE THE PEOPLE are paying the salaries and costs of all this bull-hockey legal activity being done on behalf of a mentally deficient man-child demanding legal action to assuage his desire for revenge and his massive insecurities. Can't he or the DOJ be held accountable for what is becoming a multitude of spurious and actually baseless legal actions wasting the court's time? It really appears he is using the DOJ for his crazy legal claims because he can have them do it and the taxpayers cover any expenses.
I would like to see the costs added together - for the stupid war in Iran; the slush fund; the ripping out the rose garden; the destruction of the East Wing and his plans for building his crass ballroom; the ICE goons; the concentration camps; the gold gee-gaws everywhere; the trashing of the reflecting pool; his weekend trips to Florida; the building of the whatever it is for cage fighting on his birthday; the proposed ego arch -- all of this spending on vanity, absurdity or cruelty on our dime while droning on about 'waste, fraud and abuse' -- when he represents all of those things.
I wonder if we could apply for compensation from the slush fund for the economic and pyschic pain caused to us by the DOJ. Just imagine if millions of us filed. ; )
There is much talk of that if this thing ever passes.
Really? Beyond James Comey, Mark Kelly... ?
Sounds good to me!
But I hope it doesn't pass.
We're paying for it all: gold plating on everything, destroyed buildings, destroyed reflecting pool that will never again reflect anything, a structure for a UFC cage fight on the White House lawn, and much more. We're paying. The US is evidently DJT's private bank account to withdraw whatever he wants. How did this happen? I guess one way it's happened is that Congress approved people for his cabinet who will do anything he wants, just as they do.
Who or what is going to hold him or the DOJ accountable?
HOPEFULLY his crimes and theft will be dealt with by a future government that actually has read and follows the Constitution and the laws. We will need a GOP Congress that actually means what they swear to in their Oath of Office. We will also need to put a real halt to the grifting and insider trading crap that has turned Congressional and administration positions into money grabbing and bowing to the wishes of Felon47 instead of actually representing the people and the country.
CFDT doesn’t want to pay the $83 K.
It's $83.3 M, Kathi. Pretty soon we'll be talking about real money. :-)
Kathi, yeah, he would have to dip into his supposed billions, poor boy, what else could he do?
Well put. Thanks for this very good explanation this ridiculous lawsuit.
"DOJ doesn’t typically investigate perjury in a deposition in a civil case that doesn’t involve the government."
But . . . for the Supreme Court majority and Trump's lawyers (fairly indistinguishable at this point) Trump is the government. Which, in the case of Congress asking for Trump's tax returns, allowed Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow to argue that as the release would distract Trump, and that Trump is the Executive Branch, releasing the tax returns was a threat to the entire government and to national security. And as established in the two presidential immunity cases.
L'etat c'est moi. - Louis XIV
Thank you, lin.
And, as we are aware, if Trump's returns were all shipshape and Bristol fashion, then there would not be a thing in the world about them that would distract him.
The government should be required to pay the legal expenses of any subject of an investigation when that investigation is dismissed due to lack of evidence or evidence of subjective prosecution, with additional, substantial penalties (damages). In other words, unless you've really got something, don't go to court. This may require legislation, once the MAGAts in Congress are driven out.
Good idea, James. Perhaps if the US Attorney proceeds with a case against Carroll, her attorneys could in effect countersue for costs and damages. After all, Joyce reminded us of the harm that occurs in cases like this: “…simply subjecting a person to investigation is harmful; it’s costly, it’s stressful, and there can be reputational damage whether there is ultimately an indictment, let alone a conviction, or not.”
Exactly.
Is it possible that the USSC will just sit on the E Jean Carroll appeal indefinitely so as to prevent Trump from ever having to pay her damages? If they want to protect Trump, then of course they could just hear the case and reverse the damages award, but they could also sit on it and wait for Carroll to die. But I guess in that event her estate would inherit the claim and could keep the lawsuit alive. Nevertheless, it sure looks like they’re taking their time with this appeal to delay, delay, the way Trump always likes to do when he’s in legal trouble.
This is an important point. When the MAGAt majority disappears from Congress and the new regime takes over, Supreme Court reform will have to head the agenda. One aspect of that reform will have to be a time limit on cases accepted by the Court. Absent a SCOTUS ruling within that time limit, the lower court ruling is automatically upheld.
I love that idea, especially if legislation could be passed quickly, while trump is still in office.
Not a chance, Susan, unless there’s a filibuster-proof non-MAGAt majority in place in January 27. The chances of that happening, even with a blue tsunami in November, are really remote. Even then, members of that majority might have some reservations about certain aspects of the proposed reform. So not gonna happen anytime soon. But it’s nice to dream. :-)
I get that there's not a chance. But I can dream with you - and will do so.
Agreed. And meanwhile we do whatever we can as individual citizens to bring that outcome about.
She foresaw that the settlement might occur after her death and created directives about how to spend it.
Thank you, Ann.
As I understand the stay that has been issued, it is a temporary stay.
Here is what I have found to give detail:
Case: 24-644, 05/11/2026, DktEntry: 157.1, Page 1 of 1
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE
SECOND CIRCUIT
At a Stated Term of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, held at the Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse, 40 Foley Square, in the City of New York, on the 11th day of May, two thousand twenty-six.
Before: Denny Chin,
Sarah A. L. Merriam,
Maria Araújo Kahn,
Circuit Judges.
________________________________
E. Jean Carroll, Plaintiff-Counter-Defendant-Appellee, v. Donald Trump, in his personal capacity, Defendant-Counter-Claimant-Appellant.
ORDER
Docket No. 24-644
________________________________
Appellant moves for a stay of the Court’s mandate pending filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari in the Supreme Court. Appellee does not oppose the motion on the condition that Appellant increase the bond by $7,462,492.74 to account for the post-judgment interest that would accrue during any proceedings before the Supreme Court through October 2027.
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that Appellant’s motion to stay the mandate is GRANTED, subject to the condition that the Appellant increase the bond posted by $7,462,492.74 to account for the post-judgment interest that would accrue during any proceedings before the Supreme Court through October 2027. Appellant must increase the bond within 21 days of the date of this order, with notice to be provided to the Court within five calendar days of that happening.
For the Court:
Catherine O’Hagan Wolfe,
Clerk of Court
////////////
can anyone confirm that this is the meaning, that the temporary stay is in effect as per described above, and that the Oct 2027 is material to this understanding of temporary?
Our understanding of this important to each of us.
You know you are out of options and decaying when you start beating up old ladies.
And they end up beating YOU up. :-)
There is no Justice Department anymore except in name only. It serves only Trump.
Blanche was trump's personal lawyer. He and his department are pursuing individuals and cases that reinforce the impression that he is still, first and foremost, Trump's lawyer. I hope that even Chuck Grassley can see the forest for the trees and conclude, or at least acknowledge that should "Acting" be removed from Blanche's title, little will change. Critics who claim he remains Trump's personal lawyer and that he supports vindictive, politically driven prosecutions will have a lot to go on.
Trump seems to think that the entire cabinet, not just the AG, is his personal staff. Ditto the Republicans in Congress. What's alarming is that the cabinet members, the senators, and the representatives seem to agree.
It is just so childish and harmful that Trump's stooges Blanche and others at DOJ are allowed to participate in and orchestrate "revenge prosecution, then to make it work for Baby Donnie. Blanche is allowed to court-shop to find a district most likely to also want to participate in the "investigation" and potential indictment of someone who has stood against Trump. It seems to me that such revenge prosecution should be grounds for disbarment, but it seems no one even slightly related to Baby Donnie is held accountable and some of the things they have done are appalling and had anyone else done them, they would have been charged, indicted, and probably convicted.
As Trump’s DOJ targets E. Jean Carroll: Meet the 35 women who may be next on his vendetta list.
https://thedemlabs.org/2026/05/28/trumps-doj-targets-e-jean-carroll-35-more-targets-map/