Also, Senator Raskin wrote a wonderful letter reminding the government (Trump and his cronies) that President may have “immunity” but his administration does NOT, and the President most likely can’t grant them pardons. So ….. if they act contrary to legal orders they can (and should be) legally fined and/or put in jail. That might get someone’s attention
Fact is, judges don’t need to rely solely on the U.S. Marshalls Service (part of the DOJ) to ensure their orders are enforced. Criminal contemnors, of course, can be pardoned so, the enforcement issue goes away, at least in theory. With civil contempt, however, SCOTUS has long held that “a pardon cannot stop” courts from punishing cases of civil contempt. And while the marshals have traditionally enforced civil contempt orders, the courts have the power (under a provision of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure) to deputize others to step in if they refuse to do so. But, the proverbial doo-doo would pretty much have to hit the fan in terms of a true constitutional crisis between the judiciary and the executive before this would likely even be considered.
A good question, if an unfortunate one to have to ask, in the present climate. Guess the answer is, we won't know until we know. In the meantime, we can keep all of our digits crossed.
Since Musk is NOT A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE when will Musk and his sycophants be arrested for dismantling all the infrastructure of our Government? Can a Class Action Lawsuit be brought against Musk DOGE for compromising our personal information?
I believe Northern District Judge William H. Alsup did just that.
Federal Judge Alsup has ordered a compliance report due next Thursday,3/20. Alsup has ruled Musk-OPM off the playing field. The Court is setting the depositions of Principals that were gutless no-shows at the last Hearing.
I had a case before Judge Alsup; that Court is Musk-OPM's worst nightmare. Bill could still be in Courtroom 16.
How legit is Schumer’s reason for voting for the stopgap resolution? Would a gov’t shut down have been worse for us than this resolution, in that during a shut down Trump could have imposed deeper restrictions, cuts, etc.? Thank you!
Schumer’s vote removes the president’s ability to blame the Democrats for his mess, which he would surely do. He has to fail miserably and his voters have to feel the pain and understand the cause before his movement can be halted. Let the chaos reign..
Putting aside the fact Schumer shot himself in the script. Where is Nancy Pelosi? Oh, she was strongly advocating a NO vote!
Spoiler Alert: This NOT a "CR"; it's the Country's Budget through the Fiscal Year to 9/30/25.
Two (2) big negatives:
+ Gives WH [Musk-Trump] more discretion over where money goes. You know, that's Congress' No. 1 Job.
+ Limits Congress ability to end Musk-Trump tariffs which could trigger a Global Recession not just disrupt Mexico-Canada our 2 top trading partners.
Canadians are taking Jack Daniels off their market Shelves; That is why Senator Rand Paul voted NO! I will not call it a real sMASH up .............................................................
Is he running for office again? The shutdown would have fewer long-term problems. He and others can always (but won't) donate their salaries to help employees who need to be paid. *Signed anyone sick of too many white men who don't represent the average American because age/race/gender/sex/ability/income.*
If birthright is part of the constitution, why is there any question about Trump’s executive order denying birthright anywhere in the USA? Changing the constitution requires a process that involves congress and the states. If Trump can change birthright by EO, he could decide tomorrow that Blacks and women cannot vote by EO.
My thoughts are with the next generation of Congresspeople in the Democratic Party. I would like to hear a discussion of what I See,as a habit of the party to elevate people “whose turn it is” How can we pivot to the younger political energy without further dividing the party?
I think you should read Charlie Sykes, about why it was a terrible choice that he made but it was the right choice. It’s not perhaps as obvious as it would seem. Don’t get me wrong I was disappointed too but I see exactly why it would’ve been a bad thing. And someone else today I read, and I read so much I don’t remember who, said if the government is shut down they can get rid of anybody that doesn’t fit their definition of essential services, and from there on they can just say well that’s all the government we will ever have. So it would be a dangerous thing given the characters involved. This isn’t like the last shut down we’ve had
It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. The Repubs have a trifecta. What do the Dems have? Not much. Our only recourse is praying the courts hold up like they have been doing.
Who else isn't running again and hasn't said anything? Because the House and Senate have too many old white men energy. 1 needs actual representation in power.
Richard below I mentioned Charlie Sykes column about why it was a bad decision, but the right choice under the circumstances. I didn’t give the citation but here it is now:
I would appreciate it if you would talk this evening about the effect that the Senate Democrats' support for the budget CR will (or will not have) on the litigation challenging Trump and Musk acts .
When the Supreme Court granted Trump immunity for "official acts," do you think they envisioned Trump's trampling of the Constitution in the ways he has? Or did they figure they were giving him immunity within Constitutional bounds? Like separation of powers, and respecting Congressional spending.
I read on ABC today that there was a legal ruling that the final report for the classified documents trump purloined from the White House and then took steps to hide them from investigators. How can this be? Did he kneecap the freedom of information act too????
Most voters aren't interested or fluent in political issues. They care about what decisions made in DC do to or for them. All medias need to include more info about consequences the people attending town halls are talking about. They're only beginning to be felt, but it's not hard for people to understand what could happen if there is no longer accurate information about weather, upcoming storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, fires.
There are very horrible fires in TX and OK now, with bad air quality as far north and east, even here along the shores of Lake Michigan. Our AQI is considered very unhealthy.
I saw report about those fires and I'm so sorry. I've lived with many warnings about nearby fires and air quality, so I understand. Wear masks, close windows, and use good air purifier inside your home. That's all you can do for now. Toxic particles falling from sky need to be cleaned up outside. Not a fun task. Run car through car wash.
A burning question for me since the election is: “Why was there no investigation into the results of the election to determine if Trump’s win was legitimate?” I strongly suspect that it wasn’t legitimate and that Musk and his minions were involved in sabotaging the election in Trump’s favor. That, on top of the widespread disinformation campaign waged by Russia as well as various corrupt actions within the states by Republican operatives. There has been no public discussion of this likelihood by lawmakers; it’s as if everyone’s head is in the sand, except those of us on comment threads here and on other social media sites. Too many things point to widespread and consequential fraud in the 2024 election - way too many to discuss here in a brief comment. Had measures been taken to confirm/deny the results of the election, we may be in a very different place right now.
Excuse my naïveté, but I have a question about “the law”. How is it that “the law” can be violated and yet most of the time, it seems there is no consensus among those who have sworn to uphold “the law” to protect “the law”?
How are the judges going to enforce their orders when Pres. Trump believes he is above the law?
Glenn Kirschner addressed that very question recently on his substack. https://youtu.be/usrlXdAkL7I?si=8rxUkRj_CUBovTA7
Also, Senator Raskin wrote a wonderful letter reminding the government (Trump and his cronies) that President may have “immunity” but his administration does NOT, and the President most likely can’t grant them pardons. So ….. if they act contrary to legal orders they can (and should be) legally fined and/or put in jail. That might get someone’s attention
Thanks Steve
Thank you.
Could you net some of it out? Is it likely some of trusk's behavior can be stopped?
I'm not tech savvy enough to do that. However, I can and do play back faster than 1.0x. Usually 1.75x.
I always set it to 1.5x
As a novice, how do you do that?
I don't want to watch it, only wondered if Kirschner concluded trump and musk could be stopped by judges? I assume you watched it.
Yes, he CAN be stopped. To understand how/why, you WOULD have to watch it.
Fact is, judges don’t need to rely solely on the U.S. Marshalls Service (part of the DOJ) to ensure their orders are enforced. Criminal contemnors, of course, can be pardoned so, the enforcement issue goes away, at least in theory. With civil contempt, however, SCOTUS has long held that “a pardon cannot stop” courts from punishing cases of civil contempt. And while the marshals have traditionally enforced civil contempt orders, the courts have the power (under a provision of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure) to deputize others to step in if they refuse to do so. But, the proverbial doo-doo would pretty much have to hit the fan in terms of a true constitutional crisis between the judiciary and the executive before this would likely even be considered.
Dale thanks for the info. I do wonder how many marshalls think like the so-called constitutional sheriffs
A good question, if an unfortunate one to have to ask, in the present climate. Guess the answer is, we won't know until we know. In the meantime, we can keep all of our digits crossed.
Excellent point! I've been wondering the same thing. Who will stop them if they do, and what will be the consequences if they don't? I think we know!!
Since Musk is NOT A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE when will Musk and his sycophants be arrested for dismantling all the infrastructure of our Government? Can a Class Action Lawsuit be brought against Musk DOGE for compromising our personal information?
Do you any idea when the courts might stop DOGE?
I believe Northern District Judge William H. Alsup did just that.
Federal Judge Alsup has ordered a compliance report due next Thursday,3/20. Alsup has ruled Musk-OPM off the playing field. The Court is setting the depositions of Principals that were gutless no-shows at the last Hearing.
I had a case before Judge Alsup; that Court is Musk-OPM's worst nightmare. Bill could still be in Courtroom 16.
Please make sure you remind people who observe Saturday Sabbath where this can be seen after the actual broadcast.
How legit is Schumer’s reason for voting for the stopgap resolution? Would a gov’t shut down have been worse for us than this resolution, in that during a shut down Trump could have imposed deeper restrictions, cuts, etc.? Thank you!
Schumer’s vote removes the president’s ability to blame the Democrats for his mess, which he would surely do. He has to fail miserably and his voters have to feel the pain and understand the cause before his movement can be halted. Let the chaos reign..
Putting aside the fact Schumer shot himself in the script. Where is Nancy Pelosi? Oh, she was strongly advocating a NO vote!
Spoiler Alert: This NOT a "CR"; it's the Country's Budget through the Fiscal Year to 9/30/25.
Two (2) big negatives:
+ Gives WH [Musk-Trump] more discretion over where money goes. You know, that's Congress' No. 1 Job.
+ Limits Congress ability to end Musk-Trump tariffs which could trigger a Global Recession not just disrupt Mexico-Canada our 2 top trading partners.
Canadians are taking Jack Daniels off their market Shelves; That is why Senator Rand Paul voted NO! I will not call it a real sMASH up .............................................................
cuz that would be a bad pun.
Well, perhaps that is one way to curb alcoholism, Bryan!
Is he running for office again? The shutdown would have fewer long-term problems. He and others can always (but won't) donate their salaries to help employees who need to be paid. *Signed anyone sick of too many white men who don't represent the average American because age/race/gender/sex/ability/income.*
If birthright is part of the constitution, why is there any question about Trump’s executive order denying birthright anywhere in the USA? Changing the constitution requires a process that involves congress and the states. If Trump can change birthright by EO, he could decide tomorrow that Blacks and women cannot vote by EO.
Stan Wenocur
Republicans would not complain.
Not even the Republican women in Congress.
What are our options, if Trump refuses to honor the courts decisions?
Well, I have seen the U.S. Marshalls bring 2 Defendants into the Courtroom in orange coveralls.
True, I have never seen anyone with Orange 🟠 Hair marched into Court.
My thoughts are with the next generation of Congresspeople in the Democratic Party. I would like to hear a discussion of what I See,as a habit of the party to elevate people “whose turn it is” How can we pivot to the younger political energy without further dividing the party?
term and age limits
when Finestein and Biden left they both were in terrible shape
Feinstein yes. Biden…I disagree with your assessment.
That's OK of course, but recall his debate presentation.
Why did Schumer think letting the Republicns shut down the government give trump MORE power to control funding and firing civil servants?
I think you should read Charlie Sykes, about why it was a terrible choice that he made but it was the right choice. It’s not perhaps as obvious as it would seem. Don’t get me wrong I was disappointed too but I see exactly why it would’ve been a bad thing. And someone else today I read, and I read so much I don’t remember who, said if the government is shut down they can get rid of anybody that doesn’t fit their definition of essential services, and from there on they can just say well that’s all the government we will ever have. So it would be a dangerous thing given the characters involved. This isn’t like the last shut down we’ve had
When you give in to blackmail, you might think that it will end the blackmail. It doesn't.
The blackmailer simply comes back for more. And more. And more. The demands do not cease.
Why? Because the blackmailer knows you are weak.
Neither Schumer nor Charlie Sykes seems to understand that.
It’s a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. The Repubs have a trifecta. What do the Dems have? Not much. Our only recourse is praying the courts hold up like they have been doing.
Schumer is weak and a hostage to Wall Street and its short-termism.
He is not, and never has been, a leader.
Ron, I wonder if schumer isn't running for office again. Is he retiring? Are others who voted to shut it down? Or are they up for re-election?
Gary Peters (D-Michigan) voted with Schumer and the Republicans.
Peters has announced that he is not running for re-election in 2026.
Who else isn't running again and hasn't said anything? Because the House and Senate have too many old white men energy. 1 needs actual representation in power.
Richard below I mentioned Charlie Sykes column about why it was a bad decision, but the right choice under the circumstances. I didn’t give the citation but here it is now:
https://charliesykes.substack.com/p/schumer-caves?r=6pp8t&utm_medium=ios
I would appreciate it if you would talk this evening about the effect that the Senate Democrats' support for the budget CR will (or will not have) on the litigation challenging Trump and Musk acts .
When the Supreme Court granted Trump immunity for "official acts," do you think they envisioned Trump's trampling of the Constitution in the ways he has? Or did they figure they were giving him immunity within Constitutional bounds? Like separation of powers, and respecting Congressional spending.
trump is doing what the sup crt was put together for
I read on ABC today that there was a legal ruling that the final report for the classified documents trump purloined from the White House and then took steps to hide them from investigators. How can this be? Did he kneecap the freedom of information act too????
https://abc11.com/post/donald-trump-classified-documents-case-final-report-presidents-handling-docs-should-never-released-doj-says/16027382/
I left out the most important part: the judge ruled that the final report cannot be released to the public
Most voters aren't interested or fluent in political issues. They care about what decisions made in DC do to or for them. All medias need to include more info about consequences the people attending town halls are talking about. They're only beginning to be felt, but it's not hard for people to understand what could happen if there is no longer accurate information about weather, upcoming storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, fires.
There are very horrible fires in TX and OK now, with bad air quality as far north and east, even here along the shores of Lake Michigan. Our AQI is considered very unhealthy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/14/us/wildfires-texas-oklahoma.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
I saw report about those fires and I'm so sorry. I've lived with many warnings about nearby fires and air quality, so I understand. Wear masks, close windows, and use good air purifier inside your home. That's all you can do for now. Toxic particles falling from sky need to be cleaned up outside. Not a fun task. Run car through car wash.
Air purifiers on. Thank you.
A burning question for me since the election is: “Why was there no investigation into the results of the election to determine if Trump’s win was legitimate?” I strongly suspect that it wasn’t legitimate and that Musk and his minions were involved in sabotaging the election in Trump’s favor. That, on top of the widespread disinformation campaign waged by Russia as well as various corrupt actions within the states by Republican operatives. There has been no public discussion of this likelihood by lawmakers; it’s as if everyone’s head is in the sand, except those of us on comment threads here and on other social media sites. Too many things point to widespread and consequential fraud in the 2024 election - way too many to discuss here in a brief comment. Had measures been taken to confirm/deny the results of the election, we may be in a very different place right now.
Russian election interference, musk, bomb threats, and 84.9 million did not vote.
We don't know for certain that they didn't vote. Their votes could have been thrown out. This was a multipronged attack on our election.
Excuse my naïveté, but I have a question about “the law”. How is it that “the law” can be violated and yet most of the time, it seems there is no consensus among those who have sworn to uphold “the law” to protect “the law”?
Two of my favorite attorneys.
please discuss Trump/Noem's unilateral elimination of the collective bargaining agreement and union recognition at TSA