Extraordinary similarities between what’s unfolding in Hungary and the U.S. It would seem hopeless were it not for people like Joyce Vance reporting truth to power and justice to corruption.
I’m sure Anne Applebaum’s assessment is correct. And so was Joyce’s guest who cautioned that a 20 point Democratic lead should not make us overly reassured. Trump has unknown cards to play, as he has been showing us for years.
It a piece of the puzzle of what is going on. Here is a documentary by the independent journalists that Prof. Scheppele talks about. My political book club is discussing this documentary this evening, we mostly live in Europe, and have to sometimes wait for books to come, so we are waiting for everyone to get their copy of our next book, by focusing on the Hungarian elections. It is in Hungarian with English subtitles.
Everyone is expecting a false flag operation just like Putin created to get himself into power.
Our bookclub meets weekly and between meetings we share thoughts and other information. I shared this discussion. One of our members who has been following the economic corruption of the Trump administration shared this:
"There's so much on Hungary right now!
One more tip: Dan Nolan has written today on the Orban-Reform (Nigel Farage) angle, which also has ties to Vance and Thiel:
Tidbits, for those who don't have time to read it but are interested; names highlighted:
The Danube Institute is funded by Batthyány Lajos Foundation (BLA), whose payments to visiting scholars and guest speakers more than tripled in under three years:
from €197,000 in 2022 to €730,000 in the first ten months of 2024. (No mention of 2025, 2026, but more I'd expect)
Examples of recipients of such money:
1) US Christian best-selling author (for anti-gay and anti-immigration positioning) Rod Dreher receives $8,750 a month. In 2023, Dreher -- now living in Budapest and a strong Orbán supporter credited with influencing JD Vance’s conversion to Catholicism and getting Tucker Carlson to visit Budapest in 2021 -- appeared at the National Conservatism conference in London alongside Jacob Rees-Mogg, Suella Braverman and Michael Gove.
2) Matthew Goodwin, British far-right Reform politician who just lost to the Green's Hannah Spencer, has been paid a salary of up to €10,000 a month, according to leaked documents obtained by Hungarian investigative journalists Direkt36 (whose documentary we're watching).
Also, a British foundation set up in the name of the late Roger Scruton has received more than £512,500 from the Hungarian government (via the Mathias Corvinus Collegium) since 2023 – over 90% of its total funding. In 2023, the foundation invited US tech billionaire Peter Thiel to speak at Oxford, where he compared equality, diversity, and inclusion initiatives to the Chinese Communist Party. The Roger Scruton Legacy Foundation connects directly to the UK political mainstream. Michael Gove joined as a director in May 2025. Reform UK Nigel Farage’s senior adviser and chair of the Edmund Burke Foundation James Orr has served as a director since the foundation’s creation. Orr has been described by JD Vance as his 'British sherpa'. "
Julia, sure. See this too. Ruth Ben-Ghiat had Kim Scheppele on a couple of weeks ago to talk about the Hungarian election. She is showing a map on Blue Sky that is updating the results. https://bsky.app/profile/kimlanelaw.bsky.social
Melanie, a friend is sharing this good news so far on the Hungarian election.
Ruth Ben-Ghiat had Kim Scheppele on a couple of weeks ago to talk about the Hungarian election. She is showing a map on Blue Sky that is updating the results. https://bsky.app/profile/kimlanelaw.bsky.social
Sure. Tonight we might find out the results. We are all waiting with baited breath. I know the EU has 2 plans depending on whether Orbán wins of Magyar wins. I am rooting for Magyar.
Let's keep in mind that these are not Trump's efforts; he is not smart enough. They are Russell Vougt, Stephen Miller, others (smart and evil ) people behind the scenes using him as their demented puppet.
Thank you for this conversation, Joyce. This was the most revealing thing I've heard recently. I wish more political and legal commentators would also highlight what Kim described.. yes, we are now aware of all the irregular stuff we're watching unfold, but how much does the public know of the strings being pulled in the background? This plan needs to be spoken out loud all the time from now on... people need to be aware of the bigger plan behind all the ghastly things we are witnessing. Thanks for all you do, Joyce.
Extraordinary similarities between what’s unfolding in Hungary and the U.S. It would seem hopeless were it not for people like Joyce Vance reporting truth to power and justice to corruption.
Per ANE APPLEBAUM, the Hungarian dictator is underwater & drowning absent Putin intervention & other autocratic scams.
Anne's latest is widely available with no pay wall & she was interviewed several times Today on MS NOW shows.
I’m sure Anne Applebaum’s assessment is correct. And so was Joyce’s guest who cautioned that a 20 point Democratic lead should not make us overly reassured. Trump has unknown cards to play, as he has been showing us for years.
Where is everyone getting copies of 2025 plan?
It a piece of the puzzle of what is going on. Here is a documentary by the independent journalists that Prof. Scheppele talks about. My political book club is discussing this documentary this evening, we mostly live in Europe, and have to sometimes wait for books to come, so we are waiting for everyone to get their copy of our next book, by focusing on the Hungarian elections. It is in Hungarian with English subtitles.
https://youtu.be/9NQEcLIiOpM?si=WCskATHjccOgvEVP
Everyone is expecting a false flag operation just like Putin created to get himself into power.
Our bookclub meets weekly and between meetings we share thoughts and other information. I shared this discussion. One of our members who has been following the economic corruption of the Trump administration shared this:
"There's so much on Hungary right now!
One more tip: Dan Nolan has written today on the Orban-Reform (Nigel Farage) angle, which also has ties to Vance and Thiel:
https://democracyforsale.substack.com/p/orbans-brits?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1iqf2&triedRedirect=true
Tidbits, for those who don't have time to read it but are interested; names highlighted:
The Danube Institute is funded by Batthyány Lajos Foundation (BLA), whose payments to visiting scholars and guest speakers more than tripled in under three years:
from €197,000 in 2022 to €730,000 in the first ten months of 2024. (No mention of 2025, 2026, but more I'd expect)
Examples of recipients of such money:
1) US Christian best-selling author (for anti-gay and anti-immigration positioning) Rod Dreher receives $8,750 a month. In 2023, Dreher -- now living in Budapest and a strong Orbán supporter credited with influencing JD Vance’s conversion to Catholicism and getting Tucker Carlson to visit Budapest in 2021 -- appeared at the National Conservatism conference in London alongside Jacob Rees-Mogg, Suella Braverman and Michael Gove.
2) Matthew Goodwin, British far-right Reform politician who just lost to the Green's Hannah Spencer, has been paid a salary of up to €10,000 a month, according to leaked documents obtained by Hungarian investigative journalists Direkt36 (whose documentary we're watching).
Also, a British foundation set up in the name of the late Roger Scruton has received more than £512,500 from the Hungarian government (via the Mathias Corvinus Collegium) since 2023 – over 90% of its total funding. In 2023, the foundation invited US tech billionaire Peter Thiel to speak at Oxford, where he compared equality, diversity, and inclusion initiatives to the Chinese Communist Party. The Roger Scruton Legacy Foundation connects directly to the UK political mainstream. Michael Gove joined as a director in May 2025. Reform UK Nigel Farage’s senior adviser and chair of the Edmund Burke Foundation James Orr has served as a director since the foundation’s creation. Orr has been described by JD Vance as his 'British sherpa'. "
Thanks for taking the time to post this.
Julia, sure. See this too. Ruth Ben-Ghiat had Kim Scheppele on a couple of weeks ago to talk about the Hungarian election. She is showing a map on Blue Sky that is updating the results. https://bsky.app/profile/kimlanelaw.bsky.social
Thanks for taking the time to share that information; really appreciate it!
Melanie, a friend is sharing this good news so far on the Hungarian election.
Ruth Ben-Ghiat had Kim Scheppele on a couple of weeks ago to talk about the Hungarian election. She is showing a map on Blue Sky that is updating the results. https://bsky.app/profile/kimlanelaw.bsky.social
Sure. Tonight we might find out the results. We are all waiting with baited breath. I know the EU has 2 plans depending on whether Orbán wins of Magyar wins. I am rooting for Magyar.
Excellent discussion and very informative. Been talking to my friends about the parallels with Hungary in Project 2025.
Thanks for opening my eyes; it's even worse than I thought.
This was really superb, thank you!
Great talk thanks Kim and Joyce
Let's keep in mind that these are not Trump's efforts; he is not smart enough. They are Russell Vougt, Stephen Miller, others (smart and evil ) people behind the scenes using him as their demented puppet.
Thank you! Everyone needs to hear this conversation!
Dr. Scheppele rocks. So much great info here!
Great interview with excellent insights!!
Illuminating to say the least! Thanks to you both.
Some have suggested that tRump will manufacture an "attack" from Iran in November.
Thanks for this program.
Orban playback. 🍊 is as original as dirt.
Also St. louis MO
Vote like your country depends on it.
Thank you for this conversation, Joyce. This was the most revealing thing I've heard recently. I wish more political and legal commentators would also highlight what Kim described.. yes, we are now aware of all the irregular stuff we're watching unfold, but how much does the public know of the strings being pulled in the background? This plan needs to be spoken out loud all the time from now on... people need to be aware of the bigger plan behind all the ghastly things we are witnessing. Thanks for all you do, Joyce.