The headline read “Frustrated by Courts, Trump Weighed Suspending a Constitutional Right.” It teased the story like this: “Secret memos show that the White House debated last year, to a greater degree than previously known, whether to limit habeas corpus rights for undocumented immigrants.”
Holy smokes. What other revelations are being held back for later publication for profit?!!! This one is horrifying as it is, if it were to be applied to any US citizen in the future.
It doesn’t seem to make a difference in this country. Are there any citizens out there who are getting alarmed and doing anything? Yes a few but not enough.
I think there are, but the regime does not care what citizens do or say. Signs and protests are important for us because they assure is we are millions. The courts - other than the Supreme Court - are overall supporting the law. But dictators and their followers make taking back the rule of law hard work.
Don’t you have that backwards? The federal circuit courts regularly issue decisions based on precedent and its SCOTUS overturning them because…precedents are made to be broken.🤷♂️
Question? Per MARC ELIAS, “How are Senate Dems are planning to push back on 11/25/26 state election interference”.
Answer: Senate Dems have “convened a slate of experts that include former AG Eric Holder, the highly successful Dem election Attorney MARC ELIAS, election law expert NORMAN EISEN & the top litigators at DEMOCRACY FORWARD along with the non-partisan, non-profit Protect Democracy that have organized a potent response.
Spoiler Alert: There's a civil filed by 22 AG’s across the Nation in 2026 that is already pending in Massachusetts.
When this "withholding publication" complaint was raised about an earlier book, their response was that sufficient reporting to support publication was not developed until long after the events in question were contemporary. I've often read that events like this can often take months to dig into, and with the many interviews with multiple sources that occur as part of a book.
I am thankful for the reporting. And it can be a hard line for journalists to walk between expediency and accuracy, especially right now when news organizations are being targeted and extorted just for reporting the unflattering truth about this administration. But I share the sentiment that too often mainstream news organizations and publishers (like the Times and the Post) far too cautious and kind toward this administration at the expense of the truth and the good of our country.
TRUST. That's what this administration is throwing onto the camp fire. Who would trust them? Do you trust Todd Blanche? How about Stephen Miller? Or JD Vance? What about Ka$h Patel?
They're in it to win it. And if they do win it, everyone who is not a billionaire will suffer, their SNAP benefits will disappear, their free speech will no longer be allowed, and the Feds will control our local elections.
JV: "The reporting clarifies that Miller’s role extended to advocating for the suspension of basic rights, and that he was narrowly run off. The same appears to be true for the Vice President. The risk is not over. It is a warning for what could be coming, one that cannot be ignored."
That is literally stealing directly from the people who paid into social security and pay Medicare premiums every month. I don't know if people pay any premiums for Medicaid.
Sickening but not surprising. As to whether reporters have a right to withhold information from their work, I'd think the NYTimes would have something to say about that. All this gives me pause about invoking the 25th Amendment and risking Vance in the White House. This administration is so far out of bounds, it's difficult to know where to begin to restrain it.
The only difference between Vance and Trump is that Vance is younger and can put a sentence together without a teleprompter. Other than those two differentiating points, they're both following the 2025 playbook, sing in harmony and slowly dismantle our democracy by any means necessary because there's something in it for each of them - power.
Five months until the midterms. It'll be easier to thwart Trump using Congress plus the courts. It'd be really nice to win the Senate too. Either way, trump isn't going to get whatever he wants from that point. I hope the folks in the red states which had Senators who were complicit with whatever Trump wanted, get soundly voted out of office.
I am happy to report that John Cornyn got beat out in the primaries. That gives James Talarico a real chance to flip that senate seat, unless Texans are so stupid that they would elect the criminal Ken Paxton.
Unbelievable! Trump’s gang has shown complete contempt for the courts, for the Congress, and for democracy.
It’s not so hard now to understand the colonists’ determination to declare independence from the king 250 years ago. Is that the lesson Trump wants to give us on this anniversary? Is he trying to recreate the oppression of the 1770s so we’ll stand up to King Donald?
PBS Evening News tonight flashed the poll: 30% believe America is living up to the ideals of the Founding Fathers. Unbelievable but believable, as its the same 30% who kiss Trump's ass and his ring. 250 years to turn the USA into a shithole country, topped off by the UFC fight, heralding the official renaming of the trump WH--the White Trash House. We are going to have to tear it down and start over, once his sorry ass leaves one way or another.
"Leaving aside, for the moment, the inevitable debate over whether journalists have an obligation to report in real time as opposed to holding their most interesting revelations for later publication..." [skull and crossbones emoji]
Best to keep the focus on the Epstein Files, which voters of all persuasions are correctly outraged over. The repulsive meetings in the Situation Room to devise strategies to deflect attention from or cover them up should be broadcast far and wide so no one is unaware.
Habeas corpus rights being toyed with sadly is a partisan issue that conservatives will applaud so it's not the issue to spend lots of time on when there are things this vile, corrupt administration is doing that almost all voters find objectionable and want to hold those responsible accountable.
The Epstein Files remains at the very top of that list of issues. It's hot and has the potential to burn this administration to the ground.
I applaud your continuing concern with the Epstein Files, which certainly are a topic on which the Trump regime is vulnerable. However on the matter of habeas corpus: it is not a partisan issue, it is an issue that should concern all Americans. Just because the consevatives at present have a little more unchecked power doesn't mean they should abandon the Constitutional protections which protect them as well as others. Conservatives who believe in the rule of law rather than the law of the jungle ought to embrace habeas.
"What follows is an outrageous attempt, even though it ultimately failed, at least for now, to shatter firmly established constitutional rights and protections."
What is frightening is that events and "goings on" in the administration and elsewhere have taken, are taking or will take place to the extent that such a statement is even written!
As I've posted elsewhere, "We are witnessing the death of our nation in daily doses,"
All of this must be defeated at the ballot box. With the known election vulnerabilities, we have challenges to say the least, and an avid researcher has compiled a series of posts on those threats and their remedies if we start focusing on them NOW. They can be found at:
@Lalisastands on Substack
The Structural Threats Within The ODNI and DOJ: “The Plan To Break The Midterms”
Securing Against The Structural Threats Within The ODNI and DOJ: “Stop It Before It Starts”
The Existing Technological Vulnerabilities and The Immediate Imperatives To Protect Against Them
Part 1 of 5: “They Can Reach Inside The Machine”
Part 2 of 5: “They Bought The Influence”
Part 3 of 5: “They Signed The Orders”
Part 4 of 5: “They Own The Machines”
Part 5 of 5: “The Legal Battlefield”
General Vulnerabilities with Proposed Remedies: “A Doable Plan To Practically Protect The Midterms”
Here are the direct links. These posts cover critical underreported vulnerabilities and their immediate protections for the 2026 midterms. They will require patience to review their depth, but the urgency is sufficient that everyone should absorb this information, fact check the included sources if they wish, and refer the posts to those they believe can apply the content to their strategies. The author/researcher has just submitted them to press, but the legal and organizing groups are difficult to approach and submit detail to - even with their “tips” portals:
Google Christopher Armitage. He's got some plans going in which everyday people can participate by lobbying their reps and sens at bothe federal and state levels.
The New York Times can be infuriating, in its refusal to be direct, and to give phony points of view credence. It is sometimes too measured instead of calling out the bullshit.
The point wasn't that Trump's administration should not eliminate Habeas, but rather the immediate political costs would be too high, and reaction would overwhelm the immediate benefits to Trump. So ... Let's try Plan B (for now), just making it really difficult for people on the verge of being deported or who are imprisoned, to inkvoke it.
Similar argument against using the Insurrection Act - let's do it if we can get away with it. Maybe not yet - let's use ICE and the Border Patrol for now, with assistance of the National Guard. But it's a political calculation all the way.
We know Miller just wants to destroy the independent judiciary, a la Hungary. He has said as much. We cannot allow him to do this.
PH, it is NOT the job of journalism to "call out the bullshit". That belongs on opinion pages and in columns. Reporters are there to REPORT on the salient facts.
"...a federal agent shot and killed Alex Pretti on the streets of Minneapolis without justification."
No. Alex Pretti was murdered. Renee Good was murdered. The proper description is "murdered". George Floyd was murdered. As were Addie May Collins, Denise McNair, Cynthia Wesley, and Carole Robertson, to choose an historical example from Birmingham I suspect you in particular will remember.
I just went to an event where Michael Waldman of the Brennan Center talked about many of these same issues. Thank heavens for the Brennan Center, the ACLU and people like you who speak out about the unspeakable violations of human decency and the US constitution that the current administration is perpetrating. Thank you!!
"The Second American Revolution will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.” [Kevin Roberts] It's what they can get away with that matters the most to them.
The concomitant to that infuriating remark is that if we put up a fight, people on his side will suffer as well. Clearly the right would like to think it is invulnerable to the will of the vast majority.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of accumulating evidence that the far right IS invulnerable to the will of the public. First, there is the money. Then, the tech bros as they are called. Both forces are anti democratic. Importantly, those two control access to information which is the one thing people absolutely must have in order to effectively resist domination.
Holy smokes. What other revelations are being held back for later publication for profit?!!! This one is horrifying as it is, if it were to be applied to any US citizen in the future.
It doesn’t seem to make a difference in this country. Are there any citizens out there who are getting alarmed and doing anything? Yes a few but not enough.
I think there are, but the regime does not care what citizens do or say. Signs and protests are important for us because they assure is we are millions. The courts - other than the Supreme Court - are overall supporting the law. But dictators and their followers make taking back the rule of law hard work.
Don’t you have that backwards? The federal circuit courts regularly issue decisions based on precedent and its SCOTUS overturning them because…precedents are made to be broken.🤷♂️
Question? Per MARC ELIAS, “How are Senate Dems are planning to push back on 11/25/26 state election interference”.
Answer: Senate Dems have “convened a slate of experts that include former AG Eric Holder, the highly successful Dem election Attorney MARC ELIAS, election law expert NORMAN EISEN & the top litigators at DEMOCRACY FORWARD along with the non-partisan, non-profit Protect Democracy that have organized a potent response.
Spoiler Alert: There's a civil filed by 22 AG’s across the Nation in 2026 that is already pending in Massachusetts.
When this "withholding publication" complaint was raised about an earlier book, their response was that sufficient reporting to support publication was not developed until long after the events in question were contemporary. I've often read that events like this can often take months to dig into, and with the many interviews with multiple sources that occur as part of a book.
I am thankful for the reporting. And it can be a hard line for journalists to walk between expediency and accuracy, especially right now when news organizations are being targeted and extorted just for reporting the unflattering truth about this administration. But I share the sentiment that too often mainstream news organizations and publishers (like the Times and the Post) far too cautious and kind toward this administration at the expense of the truth and the good of our country.
Hitler had Himmler and Trump has Miller.
TRUST. That's what this administration is throwing onto the camp fire. Who would trust them? Do you trust Todd Blanche? How about Stephen Miller? Or JD Vance? What about Ka$h Patel?
They're in it to win it. And if they do win it, everyone who is not a billionaire will suffer, their SNAP benefits will disappear, their free speech will no longer be allowed, and the Feds will control our local elections.
JV: "The reporting clarifies that Miller’s role extended to advocating for the suspension of basic rights, and that he was narrowly run off. The same appears to be true for the Vice President. The risk is not over. It is a warning for what could be coming, one that cannot be ignored."
Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid will also disappear!!
That is literally stealing directly from the people who paid into social security and pay Medicare premiums every month. I don't know if people pay any premiums for Medicaid.
America, there’s a fire burning the house down. Get the hoses out, it’s an emergency!
Sickening but not surprising. As to whether reporters have a right to withhold information from their work, I'd think the NYTimes would have something to say about that. All this gives me pause about invoking the 25th Amendment and risking Vance in the White House. This administration is so far out of bounds, it's difficult to know where to begin to restrain it.
JD Vance is a con man seeking power. He has no loyalties, no principles and thinks he's more Catholic than the Pope.
The only difference between Vance and Trump is that Vance is younger and can put a sentence together without a teleprompter. Other than those two differentiating points, they're both following the 2025 playbook, sing in harmony and slowly dismantle our democracy by any means necessary because there's something in it for each of them - power.
Five months until the midterms. It'll be easier to thwart Trump using Congress plus the courts. It'd be really nice to win the Senate too. Either way, trump isn't going to get whatever he wants from that point. I hope the folks in the red states which had Senators who were complicit with whatever Trump wanted, get soundly voted out of office.
I am happy to report that John Cornyn got beat out in the primaries. That gives James Talarico a real chance to flip that senate seat, unless Texans are so stupid that they would elect the criminal Ken Paxton.
Amen from texas.
They elected Ted Cruz over Beto O'Rourke. Stupidity in Texans is NOT something I would necessarily bet against... that is, if I was a betting man :-)
Only if we have free and fair elections
Americans have been fighting for the right to vote since this country started, and we're still working on it. Don't give up the fight.
Unbelievable! Trump’s gang has shown complete contempt for the courts, for the Congress, and for democracy.
It’s not so hard now to understand the colonists’ determination to declare independence from the king 250 years ago. Is that the lesson Trump wants to give us on this anniversary? Is he trying to recreate the oppression of the 1770s so we’ll stand up to King Donald?
PBS Evening News tonight flashed the poll: 30% believe America is living up to the ideals of the Founding Fathers. Unbelievable but believable, as its the same 30% who kiss Trump's ass and his ring. 250 years to turn the USA into a shithole country, topped off by the UFC fight, heralding the official renaming of the trump WH--the White Trash House. We are going to have to tear it down and start over, once his sorry ass leaves one way or another.
"Leaving aside, for the moment, the inevitable debate over whether journalists have an obligation to report in real time as opposed to holding their most interesting revelations for later publication..." [skull and crossbones emoji]
Let's not leave this aside. The obligation at some point should be to the country.. oh why do I bother...
Why should you bother? I feel like burning the NYT to the ground!
zackly
See Jim Brown’s comment above. Perhaps there is a plausible reason.
Best to keep the focus on the Epstein Files, which voters of all persuasions are correctly outraged over. The repulsive meetings in the Situation Room to devise strategies to deflect attention from or cover them up should be broadcast far and wide so no one is unaware.
Habeas corpus rights being toyed with sadly is a partisan issue that conservatives will applaud so it's not the issue to spend lots of time on when there are things this vile, corrupt administration is doing that almost all voters find objectionable and want to hold those responsible accountable.
The Epstein Files remains at the very top of that list of issues. It's hot and has the potential to burn this administration to the ground.
I applaud your continuing concern with the Epstein Files, which certainly are a topic on which the Trump regime is vulnerable. However on the matter of habeas corpus: it is not a partisan issue, it is an issue that should concern all Americans. Just because the consevatives at present have a little more unchecked power doesn't mean they should abandon the Constitutional protections which protect them as well as others. Conservatives who believe in the rule of law rather than the law of the jungle ought to embrace habeas.
We're on the long memory team with you, thank you Joyce!
"What follows is an outrageous attempt, even though it ultimately failed, at least for now, to shatter firmly established constitutional rights and protections."
What is frightening is that events and "goings on" in the administration and elsewhere have taken, are taking or will take place to the extent that such a statement is even written!
As I've posted elsewhere, "We are witnessing the death of our nation in daily doses,"
All of this must be defeated at the ballot box. With the known election vulnerabilities, we have challenges to say the least, and an avid researcher has compiled a series of posts on those threats and their remedies if we start focusing on them NOW. They can be found at:
@Lalisastands on Substack
The Structural Threats Within The ODNI and DOJ: “The Plan To Break The Midterms”
Securing Against The Structural Threats Within The ODNI and DOJ: “Stop It Before It Starts”
The Existing Technological Vulnerabilities and The Immediate Imperatives To Protect Against Them
Part 1 of 5: “They Can Reach Inside The Machine”
Part 2 of 5: “They Bought The Influence”
Part 3 of 5: “They Signed The Orders”
Part 4 of 5: “They Own The Machines”
Part 5 of 5: “The Legal Battlefield”
General Vulnerabilities with Proposed Remedies: “A Doable Plan To Practically Protect The Midterms”
Here are the direct links. These posts cover critical underreported vulnerabilities and their immediate protections for the 2026 midterms. They will require patience to review their depth, but the urgency is sufficient that everyone should absorb this information, fact check the included sources if they wish, and refer the posts to those they believe can apply the content to their strategies. The author/researcher has just submitted them to press, but the legal and organizing groups are difficult to approach and submit detail to - even with their “tips” portals:
https://lalisastands.substack.com/p/a-doable-plan-to-practically-protect?r=5mlw0r&utm_medium=ios
https://lalisastands.substack.com/p/the-plan-to-break-the-midterms?r=5mlw0r&utm_medium=ios
https://lalisastands.substack.com/p/stop-it-before-it-starts?r=5mlw0r&utm_medium=ios
https://lalisastands.substack.com/p/they-can-reach-inside-the-machine?r=5mlw0r&utm_medium=ios
https://lalisastands.substack.com/p/they-bought-the-influence-part-2?r=5mlw0r&utm_medium=ios
https://lalisastands.substack.com/p/they-signed-the-orders-part-3-of?r=5mlw0r&utm_medium=ios
https://lalisastands.substack.com/p/they-own-the-machines-part-4-of-5?r=5mlw0r&utm_medium=ios
https://lalisastands.substack.com/p/the-legal-battlefield-part-5-of-5?r=5mlw0r&utm_medium=ios
Can you please give more information?
Google Christopher Armitage. He's got some plans going in which everyday people can participate by lobbying their reps and sens at bothe federal and state levels.
Hello Joyce --
You and I had the same reaction to the article.
The New York Times can be infuriating, in its refusal to be direct, and to give phony points of view credence. It is sometimes too measured instead of calling out the bullshit.
The point wasn't that Trump's administration should not eliminate Habeas, but rather the immediate political costs would be too high, and reaction would overwhelm the immediate benefits to Trump. So ... Let's try Plan B (for now), just making it really difficult for people on the verge of being deported or who are imprisoned, to inkvoke it.
Similar argument against using the Insurrection Act - let's do it if we can get away with it. Maybe not yet - let's use ICE and the Border Patrol for now, with assistance of the National Guard. But it's a political calculation all the way.
We know Miller just wants to destroy the independent judiciary, a la Hungary. He has said as much. We cannot allow him to do this.
Peter Henry
PH, it is NOT the job of journalism to "call out the bullshit". That belongs on opinion pages and in columns. Reporters are there to REPORT on the salient facts.
True - if they are reporting facts. But to report pretend alleged facts as if they are real facts without calling them out is not honest reporting.
To be honest, the Times does use the word "lie" occasionally.
Counselor--
"...a federal agent shot and killed Alex Pretti on the streets of Minneapolis without justification."
No. Alex Pretti was murdered. Renee Good was murdered. The proper description is "murdered". George Floyd was murdered. As were Addie May Collins, Denise McNair, Cynthia Wesley, and Carole Robertson, to choose an historical example from Birmingham I suspect you in particular will remember.
"Murdered" is the appropriate description.
While I'm not surprised, knowing this still depresses me!
I just went to an event where Michael Waldman of the Brennan Center talked about many of these same issues. Thank heavens for the Brennan Center, the ACLU and people like you who speak out about the unspeakable violations of human decency and the US constitution that the current administration is perpetrating. Thank you!!
"The Second American Revolution will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.” [Kevin Roberts] It's what they can get away with that matters the most to them.
The concomitant to that infuriating remark is that if we put up a fight, people on his side will suffer as well. Clearly the right would like to think it is invulnerable to the will of the vast majority.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of accumulating evidence that the far right IS invulnerable to the will of the public. First, there is the money. Then, the tech bros as they are called. Both forces are anti democratic. Importantly, those two control access to information which is the one thing people absolutely must have in order to effectively resist domination.