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A good friend of mine raises pigs across the road from me in Brooklin, ME. The little ones are damn smart, cute, and incredibly adept at untying un-double-knotted boot laces. My granddaughters have been fascinated by them; I had helped my buddy build the first "maternity wards" he constructed for the brood sows; it's how I learned about their liking laces. It also made me smile when your comment reminded me of how, in the forties (when I was in elementary school), remembering ignoramuses among my classmates who dismissed others of their classmates saying or implying that "they're just girls." I know I
was early in my appreciation, but it got refined into public policy when I found myself after college and grad school getting recruited to aid Planned Parenthood, advancing Title IX, and a leadership role in my profession trying to bring home the ERA. You go, Cathy; not all pigs are pigs. Still, it's not surprising that so many of the cartoonists working 47 draw him as one. ;-)
Actually, gangrenous hemorrhoid is the most apt description of him. He is a "pain in the ass that could kill you if not removed". This doesn't dehumanize anyone be him and leaves all animals alone. Not sure I will ever worry about "demeaning" diseases and viruses. These are the proper analogies for Trump and those like him.
Yes. (Good point.) In the old movie he had been a human scientist and an experiment went wrong. (There was also a version where he was plant based and protected the Swamp I think. Both sentient. Unlike the one in the WH.) "The Thing" movie came out the same year; in it, an alien hunted an Antarctic science team. I loved both of them. I may go look on YouTube for them.
So true! It's so unbelievable that the president of the United States is so completely vulgar. And his people probably have no problem with his dirty mouth.
Have you noticed that Trump seldom calls out a MALE? Trump has a difficult relationship with active, strong women, and takes every opportunity possible to knock or cut them down a nearby female! That makes Trump feel “in charge” and strong! His idea of LEADERSHIP is insulting and demeaning a woman trying to do her job. If the woman is Black, brown, or heavy, Trump never passes up the chance!
The Bloomberg correspondent should sue Trump for slander! Outrageous!
I agree that 47 is a coward in the main and only projects strength through his POTUS bully pulpit and prolific use of personal insults. Thats why it infuriates me to see strong women and men pander to him. And he loves it so they get what they want.
Accuse your opponents of every vile, illegal, and unconstitutional act you commit or plan to commit. Revile them and blame them for every problem, portray them as vermin, less than human.
As Thom Hartmann portrays Cohn in his "The Last American President", Roy Cohn died a terrible, lonely death because of his socially brutal tactics; his class student, Trump did not attend his funeral nor help him out on his (Cohn's) request for a room in one of Trump's hotels; a lesson too well learned even back then.
We have all seen what he eats and how he eats it! Enough said!!!! Perhaps that's a pig sty he's building, rather than a ballroom!! BTW - what's the latest up-date on that mud hole????
The 'pig sty' he is building is the corpulent and rotting 'mortal coil' he is currently still occupying, but its construction (and collapse) will be complete *long* before any ballroom he imagines, let alone any imaginary 'Arc de Trmup'.
There will be soooo much to clean up once Trump et al. leave our house and our government. The work will be dirty, hours long, requiring vast amount of disinfectant at all level and corners of government. A big old mess, for sure. Will we be up to it or spend years sifting through the sewerage for the golden parts (you know we did need a gilded ballroom, OK not gilded, but), memories to preserve (collections of gaffs, certain executive orders, getting rid of the old beauraocrats, remodeled Kennedy Center), and novel loopholes (how to use SCOTUS when we can't convince the elected)?
Unfortunately, that would never be publicized. The media is so afraid of him. If the Bloomberg reporter would have said, “You’re one to talk lard-ass,” it would never have seen the light of day.
Maybe the next president before he tears it down and sends the steel used in it to the border with Mexico to be used to build a new bridge, should use it for a few months as a pig sty and use the pigs raised in it to feed the hungry in DC.
I think much of the blame for enabling 47 can be laid on the media owners, who are predominantly white males. The editors may have imposed a “be nice at all costs or your job is lost” policy. I certainly appreciate the deference reporters show to high profile people they are covering so long as the latter are not consistently assholes.
The Apple TV musical Spirited needs to be rewritten with 47 as an unredeemable. Seriously, our POTUS makes Scrooge look like a charming, intelligent, and charitable old coot.
The Rat__________ sob, is a fat slob. I love pigs and they do not deserve to be compared to that thing, in the White House. The reporter was doing her job and every person should picture their child being treated like that and do something about when you go to vote. Catherine Lucey keep doing your job!!
Some are intimidated or controlled by their husbands or fathers.
When I was canvassing last Fall for Derek Tran to flip a red Congressional district in Huntington Beach, CA, I came to one home where the woman said that she and her husband - who wasn't a Dem on my list- had decided that 'she wasn't going to vote '. After mentioning other issues on the ballot and saying goodbye, I worried that she was living in a home with domestic violence. It was shocking to me that in 2024, this kind of obedience was being demanded by a spouse.
An important reminder that these situations are still happening.
Trump‘s aggressive body language towards the reporter, was disturbing.
Joyce pointed out his body language, Trump seemed to be losing control, and the next time he might poke or put his hands on a reporter, and that would not surprise me.
If I were a reporter, I'd be happy to goad trump into taking a poke at me. Maybe then people would realise he's no longer fit to have charge of a football, let alone a nuclear one.
Go on, journos! Take one for the team and save the world!
If I were a reporter, I would not hesitate to stridently pursue my questioning, especially if I knew it was pissing him off. "Quiet, Piggy" illuminates who he is, to the core. ALL of America needs to be aware of it. Every one of us needs to share these incidents on social media, on our hometown news platforms (if they allow comments), in private group chats with friends, and everywhere we can think of. Fox won't report this, but we can. Far and wide.
And some support him because they think he stands against immigrants, and they hate immigrants. I have a sister who was never a victim of domestic pressure/violence (she is too strong-willed to ever put up with any of that) but she hates immigrants, so T**** still has her support. And I don't see that changing.
🥺😢I’m sorry. What that monster has done to people and the fissures he has created between families and friends is just awful. Hope she comes to see the truth.
We have to understand that huge numbers of women (hundreds of thousands? Millions?) live within a/the patriarchy. Any power, any safety comes from and through the men: fathers, husbands, sons. No matter their own accomplishments, women within this system have little or no autonomy. They will defend men as an existential necessity. If their men have no power or rank, neither do they. They will defend trump without fail as the ultimate arbiter of power. Watch the “pick me!” dynamic at Mar-A-Lago.
I always thought my mother was a victim of the patriarchy. After my father's death I asked her why she voted with Dad for Nixon. She smiled a small smile, looked at me and said she never did. She kept the peace was all. Pick your battles was the message.
Again and again and again: COVERTURE in action. I keep trying to educate people but…do you know what COVERTURE is? It’s why women are in the situations we are in now, but is a policy (if you can call it that) that is centuries old. Women are PROPERTY. Repeat after me: you live under COVERTURE. YOU ARE PROPERTY. Hasn’t changed since BEFORE the constitution..
Thanks for writing what I thought. Would a father, uncle, grandfather, male teacher or mentor, not find this and the speaker despicable and speak out and vote against him? If they laugh and say he’s only joking, I’d get out of the way. Fast.
Joyce and Jeff are an unbeatable combination these days. Nearly every day I have occasion to ask Jeff's question - and I wondered if today would be the day a reporter with access would do it. But alas...
We already know what the fuck is wrong with Trump. The people who should be asked that question are Republicans in Congress, in statehouses, and the CEOs and other prominent supporters, especially any of them who wear their Christianity on their sleeve.
Trump is truly awful in every way but he can't do any of this alone. We focus on him but they are helping him destroy our country, assault and jail innocents, starve people and take away their medicine and health care both here and around the world. As Liz Cheney said in June 2022, "Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain." It has only gotten worse since then.
Oh I completely agree. I think we just want to hear someone say it - but he’s just a figurehead who was used to bring in MAGA. He’s a psychopath in his own right - but as you said, the truly dangerous lunatics are the ones REALLY running the regime. Stephen Milker, Mr. “ChristIan Nationalist” himself, Russ Vought and Kevin Roberts from the Heritage Foundation, Musk, and especially Peter Thiel who is a complete maniac and whose Palantir is busy gathering whatever data they don’t already have on us…your point is spot-on. I didn’t have all the “Republicans” in Congress becoming spineless little Fascists willing to gut the social safety net but here we are.
That 2002 quote from Liz Cheney comes to my mind every time I think of her. The dishonor that Larry Summers has acknowledged by his withdrawal from public positions, gives him a modicum of stature. I even have a modest respect for him and hope he and his family can grow through and heal the harm that’s been done.
If the current Republican Party of Donald John Trump continues to defend the indefensible, each member will assure their dishonor remains the legacy their children will bear for generations to come.
We all have made bad choices. We are humans capable of redemption if only we….
Dale - you also read Jeff Tiedrich’s irreverent takes on all this shitfuckery! I love Joyce and Civil Discourse and #SistersInLaw for their legal minds and awesome analysis. But for the irreverence these RShit, Christofascist MAGAIDIOTS deserve Tiedrich!
I also read and love both Joyce and Jeff. I am a huge fan of the #SistersInLaw podcast. It’s my favorite thing to listen to every Saturday morning while I walk! I am in very good company!
Journalists normally avoid becoming the main story in their reporting, but these are not normal times. So, journalists' adherence to their normal protocol now after years of Trump defecating on the profession and demeaning individual reporters strikes me as masochistic and cowardly. If the reporter being insulted won't stand up for herself/himself, then her colleagues damn well should be calling him out for the fat, white, male pig he is. Time for the reporters to put their humanity and their country first.
I think part of the problem is that whoever is asking the question of the felon, when he turns on them, it's so startling, they are probably nonplussed for the moment and then he has moved on to someone else. A similar thing happened yesterday when a female reporter was chewed out for asking about the Saudi prince and Jamal Kashoggi's murder. And speaking of the Saudi's visiting the Oval Office, I didn't see Vance or anyone else remarking that they weren't wearing a suit!!!
I had a version of the same question. When the Orange Monster demeans a reporter who asks him a straightforward question, the reporter should ask "Who the f*** do you think you are? King Donald?" So you lose your press pass. Given the current press pool, that's no great loss.
And all the time saying (not) under your breath... it takes one to know one. Pardon me, I've regressed to childhood under the strain of this so called administration!
On behalf of the swine of the world, I must object. While it’s true they like a mud bath, that activity keeps flies off them and is cooling. Trump is a narcissistic egocentric misogynist whose only concern is about himself. I’d take a pig any day over him.
MAGA = a campaign against women. This is way past being tolerated or not cared about. We should be calling it out for what it is, along with the abuse exposed by the Epstein files.
I live in DC and am unsure I could tell her from any of the other young (to me) blonds that are part of the Regime. That said, IF I saw her, I'd be polite and ask her. She'd be snarky and tell her Detail to haul me away tho' I'd like to try.
Speaking of the gilded office, I was gagging seeing all that gold in the Oval Office. It doesn't even look like something, just cheap work. Ugh. I imagine the ballroom will have twice as much.
Since they are only investigating Democrats, there is no reason for tRump’s name to be redacted.
To quote Ms. Piggy, “Moi has always possessed a charm that is lethal to men.” Or “I don’t care what you think of me, unless you think I’m awesome. In which care you are right.”
Ever-thanks Joyce. There is widespread angst that today’s vote went all too easily including t’s about face in releasing the files. The shutdown provided ample opportunity for ruthless R’s & vile t regime to tamper with the trumpstein files. Hope there are ways to verify their authenticity including any missing files. We have zero reason to trust anything that comes from t, t regime, DOJ, FBI et al.
It’s not his weight or ankles or even fascinating comb-over. Shaming for looks is easy and what he intended with his inability to pretend he has standing by virtue of his office and it’s what women have endured (from him and others) forever. It’s his cruelty of policies and vendettas, his destruction of laws, all he does that matters.
Dunno. My body is not that of AG Bondi! I have "cankles" from really bad lymphedema triggered by long COVID (which I think he has), and having lived with fat shaming most of my life, I can promise that I am nuttin' like him at all!
Each of us is unique, with unique circumstances. I am sorry to hear your circumstances have been so difficult and painful. Please do not apply my comment to yourself -- i was talking only about him. I know from friends that fat shaming is terribly painful, so i generally refrain, but the orange atrocity is so shameless that, right or wrong, i consider him fair game.
Thank you, @Noorillah, for your nice note. And thanks, I didn't take it personally - it's like any "ism" that once accepted for some, it becomes acceptable for others. I prefer criticizing him for his misogynistic behavior esp to women journalists, to people with disabilities, to migrants and immigrants (who aren't his wives) and others. He's ruining lives and the country and our economy. Oh he is fair game! And I didn't single you out for this: I have posted similarly to the criticism of his looks elsewhere. I want them ALL gone. If I had the strength I'd lead a coups!
it's the ultimate form of projecting. We all know who the real pig is.
How many times have each of us looked at him and said, “He’s such a pig!”?? (And I LIKE pigs!)
A good friend of mine raises pigs across the road from me in Brooklin, ME. The little ones are damn smart, cute, and incredibly adept at untying un-double-knotted boot laces. My granddaughters have been fascinated by them; I had helped my buddy build the first "maternity wards" he constructed for the brood sows; it's how I learned about their liking laces. It also made me smile when your comment reminded me of how, in the forties (when I was in elementary school), remembering ignoramuses among my classmates who dismissed others of their classmates saying or implying that "they're just girls." I know I
was early in my appreciation, but it got refined into public policy when I found myself after college and grad school getting recruited to aid Planned Parenthood, advancing Title IX, and a leadership role in my profession trying to bring home the ERA. You go, Cathy; not all pigs are pigs. Still, it's not surprising that so many of the cartoonists working 47 draw him as one. ;-)
Cathy I hope, is writing her first book on her experiences dealing with the pedophile and her natural title; “Quiet Piggy.”
Pig's are indeed sometimes glamorous. He's just too stupid to know.
I don't demean animals. I call him monster, beast or creature. All subhuman.
Actually, gangrenous hemorrhoid is the most apt description of him. He is a "pain in the ass that could kill you if not removed". This doesn't dehumanize anyone be him and leaves all animals alone. Not sure I will ever worry about "demeaning" diseases and viruses. These are the proper analogies for Trump and those like him.
Yuck. But I confess to thinking of him as a fatal cancer on the Body Politic, not to mention the body of the Republic.
I refer to him as the bubonic plague or just as the plague!
Suzc, I have been referring to him as the pond slime for years, as the lowest life form I could think of.
I've thought pond slime (or scum) is accurate since I can't think of anything lower and Swamp Thing was kinda sympathetic.
(Old movie)
A very old movie! I never saw it, but wasn't the Thing sentient?
Yes. (Good point.) In the old movie he had been a human scientist and an experiment went wrong. (There was also a version where he was plant based and protected the Swamp I think. Both sentient. Unlike the one in the WH.) "The Thing" movie came out the same year; in it, an alien hunted an Antarctic science team. I loved both of them. I may go look on YouTube for them.
What an insult to pigs!
So true! It's so unbelievable that the president of the United States is so completely vulgar. And his people probably have no problem with his dirty mouth.
Raised on an Iowa farm, pigs are the smartest farm animal.
( I never had horses)
It gives "the pot calling the kettle black" a whole new perspective....
He's the human sociopathic 🐷
It is a page taken from the Roy Cohn playbook; part of the “hit back harder” strategy designed to create confusion by sowing doubt.
Corollary: Every vile behavior your enemies accuse you of exhibiting, accuse them of the same and more.
No doubt. Trump has learned his lessons well from his father and his ilk.
Indeed he has. Probably the only lessons at which he excelled.
Have you noticed that Trump seldom calls out a MALE? Trump has a difficult relationship with active, strong women, and takes every opportunity possible to knock or cut them down a nearby female! That makes Trump feel “in charge” and strong! His idea of LEADERSHIP is insulting and demeaning a woman trying to do her job. If the woman is Black, brown, or heavy, Trump never passes up the chance!
The Bloomberg correspondent should sue Trump for slander! Outrageous!
I agree that 47 is a coward in the main and only projects strength through his POTUS bully pulpit and prolific use of personal insults. Thats why it infuriates me to see strong women and men pander to him. And he loves it so they get what they want.
Wasn't Glenn Thrush a favorite target in DJT's first interminable term?
Accuse your opponents of every vile, illegal, and unconstitutional act you commit or plan to commit. Revile them and blame them for every problem, portray them as vermin, less than human.
Very apt clarification. Thanks.
As Thom Hartmann portrays Cohn in his "The Last American President", Roy Cohn died a terrible, lonely death because of his socially brutal tactics; his class student, Trump did not attend his funeral nor help him out on his (Cohn's) request for a room in one of Trump's hotels; a lesson too well learned even back then.
47 does enjoy throwing his one time supporters under the bus.
Wow.
We have all seen what he eats and how he eats it! Enough said!!!! Perhaps that's a pig sty he's building, rather than a ballroom!! BTW - what's the latest up-date on that mud hole????
One of the signs I saw during the NO KINGS event was, "Quick Colesterol, do your work!"
He's up to his snout in dirt.
The 'pig sty' he is building is the corpulent and rotting 'mortal coil' he is currently still occupying, but its construction (and collapse) will be complete *long* before any ballroom he imagines, let alone any imaginary 'Arc de Trmup'.
I think his mind will go before His Rotundness goes.
Pretty sure its gone
There will be soooo much to clean up once Trump et al. leave our house and our government. The work will be dirty, hours long, requiring vast amount of disinfectant at all level and corners of government. A big old mess, for sure. Will we be up to it or spend years sifting through the sewerage for the golden parts (you know we did need a gilded ballroom, OK not gilded, but), memories to preserve (collections of gaffs, certain executive orders, getting rid of the old beauraocrats, remodeled Kennedy Center), and novel loopholes (how to use SCOTUS when we can't convince the elected)?
What can we do to assist him to “shuffle off his mortal coil?”
LAUGH in his face! Trump is rattled by anyone making FUN of him! It feels good, huh?
Unfortunately, that would never be publicized. The media is so afraid of him. If the Bloomberg reporter would have said, “You’re one to talk lard-ass,” it would never have seen the light of day.
Maybe the next president before he tears it down and sends the steel used in it to the border with Mexico to be used to build a new bridge, should use it for a few months as a pig sty and use the pigs raised in it to feed the hungry in DC.
How ironic that a man with no balls is building a grand ballroom. Compensating much?
And look the people he invites to the White House, a lot of scum.
Sandy, I have been wondering about the ballroom too.
Ha!
Ha!!
I despise it when people are referred to as pigs—monster is a more accurate description.
Glenn Kirschner said a friend of his calls the felon a “thing”. Calling him an animal is disrespectful to animals. I call him simply “the felon”.
I refer to him as the evil orange menace, the self-made SoB, the plague.....
Totally! Throw the words racist and sexist in front of it and you characterize Trump to a tee! He is a racist, sexist pig!
I think much of the blame for enabling 47 can be laid on the media owners, who are predominantly white males. The editors may have imposed a “be nice at all costs or your job is lost” policy. I certainly appreciate the deference reporters show to high profile people they are covering so long as the latter are not consistently assholes.
The Apple TV musical Spirited needs to be rewritten with 47 as an unredeemable. Seriously, our POTUS makes Scrooge look like a charming, intelligent, and charitable old coot.
The Rat__________ sob, is a fat slob. I love pigs and they do not deserve to be compared to that thing, in the White House. The reporter was doing her job and every person should picture their child being treated like that and do something about when you go to vote. Catherine Lucey keep doing your job!!
That fact that any women vote for him, or even worse defend him, will never cease to baffle me.
Some are intimidated or controlled by their husbands or fathers.
When I was canvassing last Fall for Derek Tran to flip a red Congressional district in Huntington Beach, CA, I came to one home where the woman said that she and her husband - who wasn't a Dem on my list- had decided that 'she wasn't going to vote '. After mentioning other issues on the ballot and saying goodbye, I worried that she was living in a home with domestic violence. It was shocking to me that in 2024, this kind of obedience was being demanded by a spouse.
An important reminder that these situations are still happening.
Trump‘s aggressive body language towards the reporter, was disturbing.
Joyce pointed out his body language, Trump seemed to be losing control, and the next time he might poke or put his hands on a reporter, and that would not surprise me.
If I were a reporter, I'd be happy to goad trump into taking a poke at me. Maybe then people would realise he's no longer fit to have charge of a football, let alone a nuclear one.
Go on, journos! Take one for the team and save the world!
Candidate in Utah attacked a reporter. Candidate won election. Trump goaded attacking reporters in 2016.
His Oval performances this year alone should impeach him. I think very little of my fellow Americans at this point.
Also this happened in Montana 2018 and he was reelected https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/happened-republican-greg-gianforte-body-slammed-reporter/story?id=58610691
If I were a reporter, I would not hesitate to stridently pursue my questioning, especially if I knew it was pissing him off. "Quiet, Piggy" illuminates who he is, to the core. ALL of America needs to be aware of it. Every one of us needs to share these incidents on social media, on our hometown news platforms (if they allow comments), in private group chats with friends, and everywhere we can think of. Fox won't report this, but we can. Far and wide.
And some support him because they think he stands against immigrants, and they hate immigrants. I have a sister who was never a victim of domestic pressure/violence (she is too strong-willed to ever put up with any of that) but she hates immigrants, so T**** still has her support. And I don't see that changing.
🥺😢I’m sorry. What that monster has done to people and the fissures he has created between families and friends is just awful. Hope she comes to see the truth.
We have to understand that huge numbers of women (hundreds of thousands? Millions?) live within a/the patriarchy. Any power, any safety comes from and through the men: fathers, husbands, sons. No matter their own accomplishments, women within this system have little or no autonomy. They will defend men as an existential necessity. If their men have no power or rank, neither do they. They will defend trump without fail as the ultimate arbiter of power. Watch the “pick me!” dynamic at Mar-A-Lago.
I always thought my mother was a victim of the patriarchy. After my father's death I asked her why she voted with Dad for Nixon. She smiled a small smile, looked at me and said she never did. She kept the peace was all. Pick your battles was the message.
So disturbing. And depressing. What the ...?
Again and again and again: COVERTURE in action. I keep trying to educate people but…do you know what COVERTURE is? It’s why women are in the situations we are in now, but is a policy (if you can call it that) that is centuries old. Women are PROPERTY. Repeat after me: you live under COVERTURE. YOU ARE PROPERTY. Hasn’t changed since BEFORE the constitution..
to this day!!! maybe they dream about him grabbing them by........
🤮🤮🤮
to some women power is very attractive, and money more so
Do many husbands reign this Trump influence over their wives? Phew! Hope NOT?
Shame on anyone who votes for him!
Thanks for writing what I thought. Would a father, uncle, grandfather, male teacher or mentor, not find this and the speaker despicable and speak out and vote against him? If they laugh and say he’s only joking, I’d get out of the way. Fast.
My father voted for him.
And when I told him about my rape at 15, he asked me how I managed to get myself raped.
I loath the man, now in his mid 90s. It's sad
omg - I'm so sorry.
Always remember, it is NOT your burden that your father is an ASSHOLE!
I'm so sorry. Also sad we haven't progressed any as a species since your childhood. Good for you for being a survivor.
OMG, I’m so sorry! 😢
OMG I am so sorry for the rupture in your relationship with your father. He must have been quite a piece of work.
Waiting for someone to ask him the number one question: "What the f*** is wrong with you!?"
Substack columnist Jeff Tiedrich has a running “count” (2,000+ days) waiting for a reporter to stand up and ask that very question.
Joyce and Jeff are an unbeatable combination these days. Nearly every day I have occasion to ask Jeff's question - and I wondered if today would be the day a reporter with access would do it. But alas...
We already know what the fuck is wrong with Trump. The people who should be asked that question are Republicans in Congress, in statehouses, and the CEOs and other prominent supporters, especially any of them who wear their Christianity on their sleeve.
Trump is truly awful in every way but he can't do any of this alone. We focus on him but they are helping him destroy our country, assault and jail innocents, starve people and take away their medicine and health care both here and around the world. As Liz Cheney said in June 2022, "Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain." It has only gotten worse since then.
Oh I completely agree. I think we just want to hear someone say it - but he’s just a figurehead who was used to bring in MAGA. He’s a psychopath in his own right - but as you said, the truly dangerous lunatics are the ones REALLY running the regime. Stephen Milker, Mr. “ChristIan Nationalist” himself, Russ Vought and Kevin Roberts from the Heritage Foundation, Musk, and especially Peter Thiel who is a complete maniac and whose Palantir is busy gathering whatever data they don’t already have on us…your point is spot-on. I didn’t have all the “Republicans” in Congress becoming spineless little Fascists willing to gut the social safety net but here we are.
That 2002 quote from Liz Cheney comes to my mind every time I think of her. The dishonor that Larry Summers has acknowledged by his withdrawal from public positions, gives him a modicum of stature. I even have a modest respect for him and hope he and his family can grow through and heal the harm that’s been done.
If the current Republican Party of Donald John Trump continues to defend the indefensible, each member will assure their dishonor remains the legacy their children will bear for generations to come.
We all have made bad choices. We are humans capable of redemption if only we….
I hope someone will finally step up! I love Jeff!
Please!
Dale - you also read Jeff Tiedrich’s irreverent takes on all this shitfuckery! I love Joyce and Civil Discourse and #SistersInLaw for their legal minds and awesome analysis. But for the irreverence these RShit, Christofascist MAGAIDIOTS deserve Tiedrich!
https://open.substack.com/pub/jefftiedrich/p/comey-prosecutor-lindsey-halligan
You beat me to Jeff - he’s the best.
Strongly concur.
I also read and love both Joyce and Jeff. I am a huge fan of the #SistersInLaw podcast. It’s my favorite thing to listen to every Saturday morning while I walk! I am in very good company!
Did you forget jojofromjerz? She’s right up there with Jeff. Amazing writer.
Barbara - I didn’t know about jojofromjerz! Thx! Just subscribed!
Journalists normally avoid becoming the main story in their reporting, but these are not normal times. So, journalists' adherence to their normal protocol now after years of Trump defecating on the profession and demeaning individual reporters strikes me as masochistic and cowardly. If the reporter being insulted won't stand up for herself/himself, then her colleagues damn well should be calling him out for the fat, white, male pig he is. Time for the reporters to put their humanity and their country first.
I think part of the problem is that whoever is asking the question of the felon, when he turns on them, it's so startling, they are probably nonplussed for the moment and then he has moved on to someone else. A similar thing happened yesterday when a female reporter was chewed out for asking about the Saudi prince and Jamal Kashoggi's murder. And speaking of the Saudi's visiting the Oval Office, I didn't see Vance or anyone else remarking that they weren't wearing a suit!!!
Joanna, agreed! Rudeness like that almost always shocks me into silence. And yes, he got pissed at the journalists’ “insubordinate” question. WTAF??
Maybe he's the truffle in this story...sussed out by the clever piggy...
I had a version of the same question. When the Orange Monster demeans a reporter who asks him a straightforward question, the reporter should ask "Who the f*** do you think you are? King Donald?" So you lose your press pass. Given the current press pool, that's no great loss.
Even a comparatively timid, "Excuse me sir, did you really just call me Piggy??" would be better than the silence.
LOL!! Lifetime Pulitzer!!
It might be more effective to just burst into laughter turn your back and walk away.
And all the time saying (not) under your breath... it takes one to know one. Pardon me, I've regressed to childhood under the strain of this so called administration!
I know, it is so hard not to use my potty mouth.
Thanks for the morning laugh out loud. If only...
Yes!!!!!!!!! Always unasked question!!!!!!!
But...he doesn't Read!!
Trump is just naturally disgusting.
He - "IT" doesnt know how to be anything but DISCUSTING and DESPICABLE!!
Go for the karate choppers….Ms. Piggy rides again !
Hiiiiii YAH!
"Quiet Piggy!" shouted the only pig around for miles and miles and miles.
On behalf of the swine of the world, I must object. While it’s true they like a mud bath, that activity keeps flies off them and is cooling. Trump is a narcissistic egocentric misogynist whose only concern is about himself. I’d take a pig any day over him.
Dear Joy,
The felon started the misuse of the name of our beloved domestic pig.
I never meant to speak bad about our Sus scrofa domesticus!
MAGA = a campaign against women. This is way past being tolerated or not cared about. We should be calling it out for what it is, along with the abuse exposed by the Epstein files.
Love this and adopting Ms. Piggy.
Maybe we could get the Portland Frog and Ms. Piggy to go on fundraising tours and GOTV events for Dems. After all Ms. Piggy loved Kermit.
Perfect!
I've been singing Rainbow Connection for weeks! Sometimes in tears.
GO FOR IT! Great idea!
Agree, someone with the talent needs to get it going. There may be legal permissions to get but I hope someone runs with it! Hello, Gavin Newsom?!
Daisy Crockett?
We need T shirts !
I’ll give $50 to anyone who rips that dead cat off his head.
🤣🤣🤣 You can join Jeff Tiedrich who says any reporter who ask Drumpf "what the f*ck is wrong with you?" should get a lifetime Pulitzer!
I'm also waiting for any reporter who submits themselves to the WH press briefing/debasing to ask that vile woman if she needs a tissue for that snot.
Or what the cross on the chain around her neck means.
That's the REAL question I'd like an answer to.
That really is the perfect correct question!
Joan: yes! Yes please!!
I live in DC and am unsure I could tell her from any of the other young (to me) blonds that are part of the Regime. That said, IF I saw her, I'd be polite and ask her. She'd be snarky and tell her Detail to haul me away tho' I'd like to try.
Excellent! ... although I have seen photos of older women being literally dragged out of town halls by the r.
Marmoset. A dead Golden Marmoset. I've always thought that's what was resting on top.
LOL
GOT ME! LOL :-)
It could be a squirrel coming out for air.
and PLEASE can someone get him a new suit
thank you for that!
Oh, that Donald! Bringing class and maturity to the (gilded) office of the president. No wonder the world respects us so!
Speaking of the gilded office, I was gagging seeing all that gold in the Oval Office. It doesn't even look like something, just cheap work. Ugh. I imagine the ballroom will have twice as much.
Yes, Welcome to the Trump Bordello! The (young) ladies will be down shortly for your viewing pleasure!
😿😿😿
if the ballroom does manage to be built...the peasants will tear it down in short order
With their pitch forks!
And torches.
have you seen his apt in trump tower...very gaudy
Since they are only investigating Democrats, there is no reason for tRump’s name to be redacted.
To quote Ms. Piggy, “Moi has always possessed a charm that is lethal to men.” Or “I don’t care what you think of me, unless you think I’m awesome. In which care you are right.”
Yes, Miss Piggy needs to be the new symbol! Love that idea
I feel a song coming on...
Sing it out loud !
Ever-thanks Joyce. There is widespread angst that today’s vote went all too easily including t’s about face in releasing the files. The shutdown provided ample opportunity for ruthless R’s & vile t regime to tamper with the trumpstein files. Hope there are ways to verify their authenticity including any missing files. We have zero reason to trust anything that comes from t, t regime, DOJ, FBI et al.
"MAGA doesn’t care. The men like it and the women, inexplicably, are willing to tolerate it." You sure pegged it.
Ask the women "What the actual f**k is wrong with you?"
No. They are victims rather than survivors. Lots of domestic terror (and a few Erika kirks).
Some surely are. Others could be shaken awake.
When’s someone going to tell Orange Julius Caesar to take a good look in a mirror some time?
215 lbs my ass
It’s not his weight or ankles or even fascinating comb-over. Shaming for looks is easy and what he intended with his inability to pretend he has standing by virtue of his office and it’s what women have endured (from him and others) forever. It’s his cruelty of policies and vendettas, his destruction of laws, all he does that matters.
True, but somehow the looks and the behavior seem all of a piece.
Dunno. My body is not that of AG Bondi! I have "cankles" from really bad lymphedema triggered by long COVID (which I think he has), and having lived with fat shaming most of my life, I can promise that I am nuttin' like him at all!
Each of us is unique, with unique circumstances. I am sorry to hear your circumstances have been so difficult and painful. Please do not apply my comment to yourself -- i was talking only about him. I know from friends that fat shaming is terribly painful, so i generally refrain, but the orange atrocity is so shameless that, right or wrong, i consider him fair game.
Thank you, @Noorillah, for your nice note. And thanks, I didn't take it personally - it's like any "ism" that once accepted for some, it becomes acceptable for others. I prefer criticizing him for his misogynistic behavior esp to women journalists, to people with disabilities, to migrants and immigrants (who aren't his wives) and others. He's ruining lives and the country and our economy. Oh he is fair game! And I didn't single you out for this: I have posted similarly to the criticism of his looks elsewhere. I want them ALL gone. If I had the strength I'd lead a coups!
No, 215 lbs HIS ass, not counting the rest of him.
ORANGE TOXIC WASTE - and A LOT of IT!!!
I could not keep a civil tongue in my head if I was there when he said that!!!
I’m afraid I’d have launched, claws out!!
Yes! Miss Piggy could (and would) cut the Tangerine Tyrant down to size with her razor sharp tongue!