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Colleen (beanietvq)'s avatar

SO MANY in power in the United States are complicit. We cannot let their complicity deter us from pursuing justice.

We the people must reclaim our power.

It's Come To This's avatar

A reminder tonight that a little 5-year-old kid in a bunny hat from Minneapolis named Liam Ramos has already spent more time in police detention in the United States than any of Jeffrey Epstein’s many, many associates and friends, Donald Dump included.

Lanette's avatar

That truth makes my heart hurt.

Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

It makes me scream -- and it also reminds me to keep that little boy's image in mind 24/7.

Bill Corbett's avatar

That's breath taking when you think about it.

Mary Corredor's avatar

That is truly disturbing and just plain sad. Hopefully, this accountability in other countries will lead to the same here. Plus, now that SCOTUS has finally stood up to DJT, I hope others will do the same. I would like to see universities that signed any type of agreement with King Donald to alter and/or monitor what is taught renege on those agreements--declare their independence. Above all, in the name of Liam Ramos, I would like to see those law firms that capitulated to the King and made agreements with him, renege and instead, offer legal assistance to those nonviolent immigrants who were unjustly arrested and deported or held illegally, as well as to others that have been the objecs of his disgusting retribution campaign. Finally, though it does not need to be said (or maybe needs to be said more!), If the King has nothing to fear, release the Epstein file with the names of victims being the only ones redacted.

william richter's avatar

Argh. Unhappy point!

Margaret's avatar

Wow you know how to reach the heart!

Bob and Gayle's avatar

Yes, but we must act without torches and pitchforks.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

Not even just little ones? For a very limited time? I guess you’re ruling out beheadings too, then?

Bill Katz's avatar

Stoning is kinda civil.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

But getting stoned is criminal! Irony, where is thy sting?

JK's avatar

Drawn and quartered-I know where we can get the horses and the rope.

Margaret's avatar

Humor is the best medicine!!

Hubert Thomason's avatar

Yes. But there is a line beyond which people will coalesce in violent revolt. The line is yet invisible to us. Many feel we are closer than ever to just such a tipping point. There is no denying history is replete with sorrowful examples. When an historic tide starts to gain momentum there is little that can stop it. Just sayin’

Abigail Norling's avatar

YES! And I feel it getting closer and closer!

william richter's avatar

Darn! I so want that, to puncture and incinerate a certain unlimited arrogance serving as the very model of evil triumphant. I could manage to settle for the slow but fine grind of an obdurate bureaucracy, for the lyric poetry of it.

john A ferguson's avatar

What? I've already lubed the wheel bearings on my tumbrils.

Mary Lowry Smith's avatar

The Republicans are protecting Trump and going along with his plans to limit voting to secure their own jobs. So undemocratic, it’s criminal in nature.

Mary Corredor's avatar

Agree. It is criminal, and more Democrats and Independents should be stating this, every day if necessary. If it were Clinton or Obama instead of King Don, Republicans would be calling a press conference every day, screaming for impeachment.

Diane Doyle's avatar

As in the vast majorit of Republican office holders.

Susanna J. Sturgis's avatar

Easy to say, harder to do -- since "we" have been letting power slip through our fingers at least since the Reagan administration, and an argument could be made that "we" never had all that much power anyway.

Thomas Pugh's avatar

Let's get real about what we can and should do. I hope that Scott Galloway's Unsubscribe movement gains a lot of traction. Also, be very loud to your Senators to oppose the Save (voter suppression) act. Also tell your Congressmen that release of documents is not enough. Among the many questions (all) Pam Bondi dodged was one about is the DOJ investigating and indicting anyone?

James A's avatar

WHO IS THEY?

Who should face justice?

The Clintons? Bill Gates? Larry Summers?

Make the case. Lay out your facts.

They is a little too DAMN general.

Mary Corredor's avatar

They, unfortunately, will remain general until the names redacted, that allegedly should not have been, are released. Also, MTG said that the King told her some of his friends would be embarrassed. Ask the King who. specifically, he meant.

The Clintons? Bill Gates? Larry Summers? ADD to the list Donald Trump? Elon Musk? Howard Lutnick? Kathy Ruemmler? --many of whom have lied about their association with the man they now refer to as a creep.

No matter who "they" are specifically, no matter their political leanings, if "they" committed crimes, "they "should be prosecuted.

David J. Sharp's avatar

Meanwhile, Marco Rubio cuddles up with Viktor Orban … fair weather ahead!

It's Come To This's avatar

We are about to go to war against Iran. Dozens of ships, aircraft carriers, missile systems and related forces are either in the Middle East right now or streaming toward it, awaiting orders to fire.

Not a single one of Donald’s wormtongues has bothered to explain why. Nobody can explain to the American people why this is taking place right now.

Whatever’s in the rest of those Epstein files or in police blotters in Britain must be truly horrific.

Do I believe Trump is going for another war in order to try to change the subject from Epstein? Is he truly both that desperate AND that stupid?

Yes, I believe that’s exactly what’s going on. Somebody please feel free to prove me wrong.

David J. Sharp's avatar

Agreed! Perhaps we can avert war by naming it the Trump Tehran International Airport?

Stephen Brady's avatar

Donnie is a busy boy these days... he's got to be soiling his depends at an ever-faster rate as more and more becomes apparent. May his days be few...

Clym Yeobright's avatar

I don’t see it. I don’t think trump can survive an incident with more than a dozen Americans killed, especially given his failure to prepare ‘us’ for it. And the Iranians know it. If Trump were to nuke an Iranian city and the Iranians to sink an American supply tender, Iran would ‘win’ in public opinion in the U.S. Meanwhile, trump is playing havoc with the Navy’s maintenance schedule that will be felt for the next ten years. He can’t leave two carrier groups out there for more than about ten days more - and the Iranians know that too: just dick around with Jared for a week or two and the danger will pass.

Let’s see what trump does on Tuesday

James Vander Poel's avatar

Yeah, but does T**** care? I hardly think so. We're up to 145 killed in those "drug boat strikes" and he doesn't give a rat's ass that he's been violating the law of the sea for months. No one has been able to bring him to account. Congress certainly doesn't have the cojones, and Kegsbreath will keep giving the orders to send the troops and weapons at T****'s behest. There isn't a moral bone in all the bodies of all the cabinet members.

Dee Walsh's avatar

Or in the entire Republican Congress.

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Clym I’ve been following the Straits of Hormuz for over 60 years. Today over 25% of the world’s oil transits this spot. Might this give gunshot Donnie a surprise? It seems fairly easy to block this narrow passage.

Daniel Solomon's avatar

High price of oil benefits Putin.

Vijaya Venkatesan's avatar

I think the 'you'll know in two weeks' line from Trump essentially has meant this week, next week, sometime, never.

Many Trumpian plans and policies are 'you'll know in two weeks' category, including sanctions against Russia.

Richard Hyppa's avatar

Why can the carrier groups stay for only about 10 more days? Aren’t they self sufficient for months? Please explain.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

The Gerald R Ford was due in port in the U.S. a couple weeks ago. Dry-docks need to be scheduled; you can’t just pull an aircraft carrier (or a destroyer, or a tender) up on the beach when it needs work done. Now the Ford will take another’s slot for its routine maintenance, and so on, and so on. I understand carriers are scheduled to be ‘down’ five months a year

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Clym As Bone Spur Donald plays generalissimo by moving aircraft carrier flotillas around the globe, many thousand service men are forced to be at sea for countless additional months.

Also, the aircraft carriers miss their scheduled reconditioning.

Has Donnie ever thought that someone could hit his ships with missiles and/or drones? OOPS!

Abigail Norling's avatar

Donnie does not spend much of his limited time actually thinking.

Robin Lawlor's avatar

I would only remark that the ships are ours, not his. He's playing pretend warrior with our property.

James Vander Poel's avatar

You know what sub commanders consider aircraft carriers - sitting ducks. Reports are that every carrier in the world is in a picture taken through the periscope of a hunter-killer submarine - and the carriers never knew the subs were there.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

Caveat: I may be ‘over my skis’ here. All I know about the Navy I learned from Mr. Roberts and The Caine Mutiny - books first, movies later. And, oh yeah, Tora Tora Tora.

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Clym A fine tutorial. Also try Midway for an excellent account of a near-thing victory based on a hunch and guts.

Gail M Doucette's avatar

Humphrey Bogurt was so brilliant in The Caine Mutiny. It's heartbreaking the toll war takes.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

Well, the last scene at the party with Fred McMurray seems very relevant today.

Meanwhile, who can forget Henry Fonda as Doug Roberts? And Cagney and Lemmon and Powell and Bond …

David Betts's avatar

Apparently Kegsbreath has figured out that killing someone every week is his job security.

Abigail Norling's avatar

YES! I believe Trump is going for another war in order to try to change the subject from Epstein! His narcissism will never allow him to admit that he is wrong of anything! And the truth in those files would sink him absolutely. With what little brain he has left he will stop at NOTHING to have us look at something else.

Margaret MacKenzie's avatar

“Distraction, distraction, dumdumdum…Distraction!” to the tune of “Tradition” from Fiddler on the Roof”.

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lauriemcf's avatar

Rubio knows that he's gone over to the evil side - which makes it all the worse. You can see it in his cold dead eyes. I was never a fan of his, but I used to think that he was, at least, a decent person. No more.

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Laurie Rubio launched his political career on the lie that his parents fled Castro and came to Florida. In fact, they emigrated years before Castro.

Mario has a fixation on Cuba, which is a failed state. Over the past two years at least 400,000 Cubans emigrated—mostly young and lots of women. The remaining 10 million +/- are living with hunger and high unemployment.

Sanctions—including Trump’s recent blockage of petroleum from Venezuela and Mexico—have killed the tourist trade and cut power for industry and daily living.

A massive change from when Cuba was flourishing with Maria involvement (see The Godfather).

My grandmother came from Cuba in the 1870s. We invaded Cuba in 1898 (Bully boy Teddy). Why should we be concerned with a moribund Cuba today, except as a Rubio toy?

David J. Sharp's avatar

Let’s not forget that Fulgencio Bautista was also very corrupt and had no problems with the sex trafficking of women and girls.

David J. Sharp's avatar

I agree. Haven’t followed him … but I thought he had at least *some* self-respect. His move to the Dark Side was so rapid I’m still out of breath.

Russell John Netto's avatar

Trump's commented on Rubio's performance at Munich at yesterday's Board of Peace. Marco did “so proud” in Munich, but “if you do any better… you’re out of here.” Like all his minions, Rubio had to walk a tightrope trying at once to please his boss and to keep NATO allies onside.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

I can’t purge the sight of Rubio lecturing about ‘Western Civilization’ to an auditorium full of people many - or most - with doctoral degrees in various aspects of … ‘Western Civilization’, from major universities (unlikely to include the University of Florida polisci department). BUT wouldn’t the effect have been a bit better had Marco been capable of including just one sentence - nay, just one *phrase* - in German (or French)?

The least accomplished and least qualified person in the room pontificating from the podium … and he the *only* one who doesn’t realize it.

Kind of like a Karoline Leavitt press briefing, isn’t it?

Lady Emsworth's avatar

Or the Kegsbreth General's meeting where he told them all to get their hair cut or they weren't soldiers. . .

David J. Sharp's avatar

My point exactly … and better said.

Robin Lawlor's avatar

Or like tough Mr War Guy (isn't that his new title?) telling the actual generals how to dress.

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Robin I’m surprised that Bone Spur Donnie hasn’t appeared in a golden military uniform with medals from all sorts of countries. I believe that he once wore a uniform at the military academy where his daddy send him ‘to get discipline.’ Apparently that failed.

David J. Sharp's avatar

Particularly with those enormous service caps preferred by Myanmar top brass—one hat can also serve as a dining table for four.

Keith Wheelock's avatar

David On which to keep ketchup, to throw at the wall in anger.

David J. Sharp's avatar

Building Makeup Rooms Builds Better Warriors!

Keith Wheelock's avatar

David Mascara for the Army Rangers.

JeanneFC's avatar

It’s like all the incompetent nincompoops in the cabinet- BobbyBrainworm, Lindathewrestler, KristiNoheart- they are people without qualifications lecturing their betters.

JeanneFC's avatar

Andrew was always the Queen’s favorite child. She even paid his settlement with Virginia Guiffre. It must sadly be poetic Justice for Charles.

Freddie Baudat's avatar

Except, there really is nothing like a Karoline Leavitt press briefing. (Okay, fingernails on a chalkboard, in perpetuity.)

David J. Sharp's avatar

With her ever present smile, cross necklace and bald faced lies.

Freddie Baudat's avatar

And smug, denigrating tone. 😖

David J. Sharp's avatar

Ah, the very face of white supremacy!

David J. Sharp's avatar

Or Hegseth flying in the military top brass to lecture them on manliness … then throwing an admiral under the bus to avoid his own war crimes accountability.

David J. Sharp's avatar

By hugging Orban? Not exactly endearing to NATO.

Gail M Doucette's avatar

What could possibly go wrong? 😱

David J. Sharp's avatar

Rubio takes one look at Trump: “My Fulgencio!”

Clym Yeobright's avatar

Marco has his bags packed to go play viceroy. I’ll bet his dad will finally smile on him *then*

David J. Sharp's avatar

Viceroy of the Western Hemisphere! Obeisance to King Donald the Only.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

I’m guessing Marco wants only Cuba from the Donald. If he decides he wants more, he’ll take it - and get to lead men in battle like a real generalissimo. With his big hands, how can he fail?

David J. Sharp's avatar

Plus, he gets to wear that outsized generalissimo service cap!

patricia's avatar

one of your best David !

David J. Sharp's avatar

Thank you! A truly awful regime… but comedy gold. (See above.)

patricia's avatar

king donald the only

Wendy Shelley's avatar

So much has been unearthed for the past few weeks, it seems to me “we” should be able to start proceedings against a few people, at least. The first should be Lutnick. The second should possibly be Wexner who could at least be charged with perjury before Congress. People will have dozens more to add to the list, but at least we could get started. Sure would be nice to have Joyce as the prosecutor – – a slam dunk if ever there was one!

Bob and Gayle's avatar

The lead prosecution in the cases ahead for the Epstein class will be life- and career-consuming for whoever assumes that burden. I hope we end up with the right person, but wouldn't wish the role on anyone I like.

Cats 🐈🐈‍⬛'s avatar

Bring back Maureen Comey. She prosecuted Maxwell and knows it from inside out.

Freddie Baudat's avatar

The thing is, it will need to be someone who can be perceived as objective and unbiased. Not for those who continue to believe the big lie and will until their last breath, but for those who sort of just go with the prevailing winds of others in their circle. The ones who have decided that yes, there’s corruption and the like and we need an investigation. Finding that person… otherwise, any result will be scrutinized by politicians while campaigning going forward.

Freddie Baudat's avatar

We are really in a pickle!

Richard Hyppa's avatar

Todd already told us that there won’t be any more prosecutions. The arrest of the fallen prince could start a swelling of support for reversal by the misguided DOJ. Public opinion will decide the issue. We saw it already when Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie’s bill grew from a mere possibility to every member of Congress minus one voting Yes.

It can, should, must happen.

Daniel Solomon's avatar

IMHO New Mexico and Virgin Islands should be at the forefront. Maybe NY and other states where there is no statute of limitations for rape.

Lutnick may not have been a rapist, but may have been a pimp, panderer, and was a business partner with Epstein, knowing he was running the honeypot operation. Supposedly they were partners in an advertising business.

Also obstrution of justice may be an ongoing issue.

Google: Howard Lutnick and Jeffrey Epstein were business associates primarily between 2012 and 2014, according to unsealed Justice Department records. While Lutnick previously claimed to have severed all ties with Epstein in 2005, the "Epstein files" released in early 2026 revealed several shared financial and social entanglements:

Adfin Solutions Inc. (2012–2014): On December 28, 2012, both men signed documents on behalf of their respective companies—Epstein through Southern Trust Company and Lutnick through a Cantor Fitzgerald affiliate—to acquire stakes in this advertising technology firm.

Property Transaction (1996–1998): Records show a historical real estate connection where Epstein sold a Manhattan property in 1996 that Lutnick eventually purchased in 1998 to use as his primary residence.

Continued Interaction:

2011: The two scheduled drinks at Epstein’s home.

2012: Lutnick and his family visited Epstein’s private island, Little Saint James, for lunch in December.

2015: Lutnick invited Epstein to a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton hosted at Cantor Fitzgerald.

2017: Epstein donated $50,000 to a UJA-Federation of New York dinner honoring Lutnick.

Lutnick, the current U.S. Secretary of Commerce, has maintained that these interactions were limited and mostly coordinated through assistants.

Richard Hyppa's avatar

Thank you for all of these details. And the lying. It’s disgusting that Lutnick is still a cabinet member. When a prince has been arrested. Every time he is seen in public, he should be met with shouts of “Epstein liar!”

Celia Ludi's avatar

I don't think we in the US have forgotten what accountability looks like for public officials. I think we've never seen it. In my own lifetime Gerald Ford preemptively pardoned Richard Nixon, saying it was more important for the country to heal and go on than it was to try him. In the 30s, there was a cabal of wealthy men who organized to try to overthrow or sideline FDR and install a fascist government. Their plot was stopped, but it was all tidily taken care of behind closed Congressional doors. After the Civil War, confederate traitors were allowed to rejoin the Union with their voting and property rights undisturbed. In public, we have relied on elections to get rid of politicians we don't want to represent us, but the private interests behind those politicians have been securely protected. Protecting the wealthy and powerful seems to be in our national DNA.

Jen Andrews's avatar

That cabal included Prescott Bush. I don't think it prevented his sin firm becoming president.

kdsherpa's avatar

("his sin" -- probably a typo; if not, love the pun)

Celia Ludi's avatar

Or his grandson. Wealth is generational.

Linda Roberta Hibbs's avatar

Thank you for this wonderful article, Professor. I agree let our current, President, testify. I don’t know if President Clinton did anything! His wife Secretary Clinton wants a fair hearing. That is according to The BBC. Here is my opinion, bring the hearing of the Clinton’s to televised hearings, so that we know what they testify about!

suzc's avatar

The mills of the gods grind slowly but they grind exceeding fine.

Today had a hint of that. Pressure on!

Freddie Baudat's avatar

Boy, I hope you’re right. I tend to have faith in the future, but reading through the comments here had dragged me under. Until yours! Breathe. Ah yes. Fresh air, if only a waft. Thanks. 🙏

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Because of the Epstein files, the brother of the king of England was arrested. Evidently Fergy, his former wife, was up to her arm pits in Epstein money and e-mails.

A number of prominent foreigners have been targeted or resigned because of the Epstein files.

A smaller number of prominent Americans have been targeted or resigned.

WHY HAVEN’T ANY PROMINENT MEMBERS OF TRUMP’S COTERIE BEEN SPECIFICALLY TARGETED AND FORCED TO RESIGN? IS TRUMP PERSONALLY GUILTLESS?

LaurieOregon's avatar

No accountability or justice yet from Trumpstein's coterie also because of the Republicans in Congress. And the reactionary majority of SCOTUS justices. And the 30% of Americans who don't know who Pam Bondi is and could care less.

Ron Bravenec's avatar

*Couldn’t* care less. 😣

patricia's avatar

so, all you got from that post is the need for an English lesson ?

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Laurie Never acknowledge shame is the name of the Trump game.

Lady Emsworth's avatar

"Being rich means never having to say you're sorry."

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Lady Especially if the fat cat has a prenup.

Keith Wheelock's avatar

Jim Bambi could do a better job as Att Gen than Bondi—who represents injustice.

Herman Jacobs's avatar

The dam is breaking. XPrince Andrew is gonna sing. There will be more documents coming out of England, other European countries, and maybe even from Israel. Trump’s DOJ won’t be able to withhold them or over-redact them.

But in what would be his greatest act of deflection, at any moment The Dearest Donald could start a war with Iran—ostensibly to end Iran’s nuclear ambitions. That’s my big worry now.

(If Trump re-bombs Iran, the MAGAs won’t remember that The Dearest Donald swore Iran’s nuclear program had been obliterated just a few months ago.)

Ann P's avatar
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Andrew is now officially known in the UK and everywhere, per decree of King Charles, as Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor. Please call him by his name.

Russell John Netto's avatar

He's no longer a prince, that's certainly true, but even Charles can't take remove him from the royal bloodline and so he remains eighth in line to the throne.

kdsherpa's avatar

???!!! He's still in line for the throne?!!

william richter's avatar

TM-WFKAP?

The Andrew Formerly Known As Prince could share TAFKAP.

XPrince sounds too Musky? They do share having large roles in the Epstein collection.

Herman Jacobs's avatar

“Musky” is a rather fitting description of the XPrince, don’t you think?

william richter's avatar

I'm torn between my responsibility as a citizen of a titular democracy to be informed and my horror and revulsion at what is discussed (disgust) in those files, a corrupting inversion of human values away from protection and nuturing, toward sadism and predation, with an undercurrent of a pathetic submission sacrificing decency to belonging with the mean baboons (not fair to baboons) the mean and rich and lost damned fools. I cringe at that level of detail, but, yes.

Amyp's avatar

I am looking forward to the Clinton's public testimony!!!!

Richard Hyppa's avatar

Does anyone believe that the no. 1 Presidential horndog ever kept it in his pants on the island? Carol Leonig’s book about the Secret Service described some of the Service’s consternation when they tried to protect the man who repeatedly sought sexual trysts. Yes, his testimony will be watched. If he takes the 5th, we will know.

Judy Golitko's avatar

Awesome commentary on Prince Andrew. (I will always call him that because he was born a royal and that cannot be taken away, only his titles).

I cannot understand why WE cannot prosecute a sitting President for doing the same thing. We are losing our Democracy and it hurts my heart. We have got to get rid of this man, sooner than later. My only hope is that Andrew tells the truth and doesn’t hold anything back. The Queen must be rolling in her grave.

Ann P's avatar

Andrew is referred to in the UK and everywhere except certain news outlets in the US as Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor. He is no longer a royal. He is related to the royal family, but he himself is not a royal. It is an insult to the decision of King Charles to strip Andrew of all of his titles and privileges for anyone at this juncture to call him “Prince” Andrew.

Robin Lawlor's avatar

Thank you Ann P. As an American citizen I don't feel special about royalty. If they themselves will not use his titles why should we? He is an embarrassment to them & poses a threat to the value of the monarchy. The King's position is proper, moral & smart. That family doesn't want to disappear into the superficial social club of Eurotrash. Our government, on the other hand, seems to be sinking into a mire of lawbreaking incompetence, incivility, lies, & shocking immorality in service to a gang of rich criminals seeking power & wealth--our own form of trash. I really hope the example of world leaders will shake something loose here.

Ann P's avatar

Agree 100%. Thanks for the support. The word “prince” should never again be found anywhere near that disgusting person’s identity.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

He’s no Lionel of Antwerp, I know that much

Judy Golitko's avatar

As I am American, I could care less about titles.

Ann P's avatar

So why did you say this:

"I will always call him that because he was born a royal and that cannot be taken away, only his titles"

That's not something a person who could not care less about titles would say. And if you "could care less", then there's room for going even lower.

Judy Golitko's avatar

Let’s nit pick. Ok? The thread is about his arrest. Not what I happen to call him. Got it?

Ann P's avatar

What I've got is your refusal to call a pedophile by his legal name because you like thinking of him as a prince.

patricia's avatar

what's with all the improper use of English complaints on this one ?

patricia's avatar

except supreme POS, which belongs to hump

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

The Queen has a whole history of bad behavior on the part of royals to consider from the great beyond!

Judy Golitko's avatar

All the past Kings and Queens have had these issues. Just read British History. Many were beheaded.

William Burke's avatar

For the record, AI reports that only one British King was beheaded and that was Charles I in 1649. But apparently somewhere around 4-6 are considered to have been murdered. So there’s that.

william richter's avatar

Charles ran head on, so to speak, into my Congregationalist forebears. No wonder Jimmy Carter described his Baptists as the kinder, gentler Calvinists. The memory of the hard edges and judgemental tendencies of Puritan theocracy must have lent considerable somber urgency to Separation of Church and State.

Clym Yeobright's avatar

Ummm … you’re being unfair to Jane Grey the Nine-Days Queen. Don’t feed your bot tonight

william richter's avatar

Do you favor preserving tradition to that degree?

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

I have, that’s why I said what I said.

James Vander Poel's avatar

Would it not be ironic if the behavior of this scion of the royal family helped rid mankind of the idea that there should be kings. I think Britain could prosper without all that faux pomp and circumstance, just like we will without the Orange Menace and his minions.

Russell John Netto's avatar

I doubt it somehow. He was reputedly her favourite and most pampered child.

Elvi's avatar

So clearly a perfect example of “spare the rod…”

Lady Emsworth's avatar

Seems he didn't spare HIS. . .

lauriemcf's avatar

His title was "Prince" and that has indeed been taken away.

Bill terKuile's avatar

"Oh, the irony. The country with a king still subscribes to the belief that no man is above the law."

That's the difference between a constitutional monarchy and a dictatorship.

Irony, indeed.

The nation that once tossed a dictatorial monarch, elected the man who declared he would be a dictator.

When will we ever learn?

Clym Yeobright's avatar

And where *have* all the flowers gone? Long time passing …

Sarah Smith's avatar

Right ON Joyce!

Satchuralman's avatar

I hope justice is being served. These people abusing children are horrible. I keep believing that truth will prevail. If these laws about not abusing children aren't sacred then what is? I respect your insights and explanations into what's going on. They help me to not give into being overwhelmingly cynical. Thank you for helping me to hope justice is being served.

Karen Anderson's avatar

The only things that are sacred to them are money and power. Everything else is irrelevant. Suffering is irrelevant to them. They just don't care.

Judy Keith's avatar

Actually, I rather think they enjoy seeing others suffer.

kdsherpa's avatar

I've refused to say or write the monster's name since 2016. I realized that he IS a sadist when I watched the repugnicant debates that August. Since then, the only words I use are the orange sadist. (Added pedophilic to the name in the past year.)

lauriemcf's avatar

they are completely devoid of empathy, understanding and compassion

Karen Leeds's avatar

I will not hold my breath there will be any accountability for trump while he is president. It is truly sad the entire civilized world is able to recognize the atrocities and dispense justice, while Americans must wait. The republican party is a disgrace to the rule of law.

And I know this may sound like I’m a conspiracy nut, but with all the info coming out I am becoming more convinced that Epstein was a Russian asset. That would explain so much. How he became so wealthy and why Trump is so terrified of Putin. Can you imagine the dirt Epstein had on Trump and gave to Putin?? Child rape, money laundering, child trafficking…the list is endless.

William Burke's avatar

I think you’re on to something Karen. I’ve long believed that Trump‘s obsequiousness and obeisance to Putin could only be explained politically by Putin holding some serious Kompromat on Trump.

Grover Zinn's avatar

May this be the turning point--- So important to keep the pressure up here---- The weather in the US is getting rough for truth and justice. But as one who spoke truth to power, wealth, kings, and corruption centuries ago said: "Let Justice roll down like like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.” Amen.....

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

Powerful words but the white Christian nationalists think they have righteousness on their side.

Demetria Livingston's avatar

They think but they think wrongly.

William Burke's avatar

Their facts are messed up.

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

Of course they do, it comes with their territory

patricia's avatar

every conflict ever, including sports, has known God was on their side.....laughable really

Sarah Greenwood's avatar

No one is above the law in even our MAGA governed country

Lori Bate's avatar

Correction: ESPECIALLY our MAGA governed country.

David J. Sharp's avatar

Correction: Our MAGA governs the law.

David J. Sharp's avatar

Yes. Exactly. For now. Only now.

Lady Emsworth's avatar

Trump is. The Supreme Court says so.