DOJ filed a notice of appeal on Wednesday, signaling that it will try to undo a federal judge’s order that requires the release of 5-year-old Liam Ramos, whose photo put a human face on Trump’s mass deportation policy and busted open the myth that it was about getting violent criminals off the streets of Minneapolis.
Is there no depth of depravity that Trump and his DoJ won’t plumb? Tossing Bondi is just cosmetic … as was Noem’s (and Lewandowski’s) dismissal—new faces for more depredations.
Of course it is and is no doubt the replacement will never pass Senate confirmation. I would like to see the appearance before Congress under oath to go forward anyway. Lying to Congress is a crime and she deserves to pay the penalty!
Lying to Congress is a right wing sport. All of the SCOTUS Six swore that Roe v. Wade precedence held sway … until it became “egregious”. Sauer and Bove lied smirkingly. I still shudder at Clarence Thomas’s confirmation questioning before Congress. Lying has become an acceptable profession since Trump.
David, the answer to your depravity question is NO. There is no bottom to which they will not go and no limit to who they are willing to do harm to. No one is safe which is why we all need to stand up to them, every single time we have the opportunity.
“Whoever harms a hair on the head of one of these little ones, it would be better for him if a millstone was tied around his neck and he was thrown into the sea.” Jesus of Nazareth, on the fate of those who mistreat children.
This dear little boy has touched the heart of every parent in this country! I do not understand how a person can be sent to a detention facility in another state when they can't even go back home and get things or pay rent to be sure they have a place to return to! And why, when we know there is inedible food, and no medications, and no beds to sleep in and CHILDREN ARE IN THESE FACILITIES--please tell me how this can be allowed? The abject cruelty in all this is just so traumatizing for elders like me who grew up here and were blessed with a pleasant childhood, when we are now witnessing the terrible conditions of the detention centers where a person gets sent without a permit to do so, but worse: THEY ARE BEING SENT OUT OF THE COUNTRY, and sometimes to a country that they have NO relatives or do not know the language. How can this be possible? Joyce, can you please give us your explanation of how all this is possible?
I realize there is no stopping our president or his cabinet members, but come November, I want new rules and laws to be instituted in our government to assure that these terrible situations will never ever be repeated! Thank you for listening, and for your daily missives which are so welcome!
Totally agree wanting new rules, or adhere to the constitutional laws and rules. From all the loopholes that have been founded and preyed upon to be shut immediately. It’s vile and the cruelty is what feeds these monstrosities, it needs to stop.
Joyce, could you please finish the paragraph that started with "The federal government is using its resources to try and send 5-year-old Liam Conejo Ramos back to detention in a facility it can’t be bothered to make safe. " It ended with "yet today, trump's" I would like to know what you were going to say about what the administration has done today. I hope and pray that Liam Ramos and his dad are not sent back to Dilley, that they are allowed to stay free as their asylum case progresses.
Of course Trump can’t be bothered to make his prisons even the slightest bit humane … there’s important carpet bombing to see to. And of course, more Epstein subterfuge.
You are understating the deplorability of Abbott, and for that matter, most of the GOP. Nothing is unacceptable to them as long as it fills coffers and bank accounts of them and their donors.
So true. I remember at one point during 2025, Texas senator John Cornyn posted an image of himself reading, AND HIGHLY RECOMMENDING, DJT's (I just cannot call him president) The Art of the Deal. How out of touch can you get? There is NO bottom.
It is almost impossible to read the atrocities that are occurring. These are children that are being permanently scarred for life. It will take years of therapy to try and even become semi normal. What has happened to the autistic girl that is there or Louisiana???
As I understand it, Liam and his family have been denied asylum and they have appealed. I don't think the public has any access to WHY it was denied, or if his arguments were even considered. That's the problem with immigration courts under the thumb of the executive branch.
At the time of the original arrest there was no prohibition on releasing on parole those with pending cases for asylum. So what WAS the probable cause to arrest the family? Now the 8th Circuit seems to have joined with the 5th in the whole idea of "mandatory detention" for anyone who doesn't actually have a green card. Do you think the 5th Circuit will find that probable cause is retrospective, such that the fact that the family is NOW "subject to mandatory detention" is probable cause to arrest at a time of actual arrest?
Because of the way Judge Biery decided this is likely to turn out to be a decision mostly about the validity of administrative warrants as opposed to judicial But that begs the question of whether even the administrative warrant had probable cause; I gather the government presented no evidence that there was anything other than Adrian's status--which at the time, wasn't cause to arrest.
Don't forget ICE agents had quotas to meet daily. Suspect this was originally just a despicable ICE agent trying to get his quota by any means available - until pictures of a cute little boy in a bunny hat who'd never done anything illegal went public. None of this evil insanity resembles anything any sane person would call American or Constitutional.
and - WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE TRUMPSTEIN FILES NAMING THE ABUSERS ??????
The people who control these facilities while pocketing our tax money and encouraged by some of our so-called conservative population are much like the greed and hatred during the industrial revolution that persecuted the Irish and Asians while they labored on the canal and RR’s. Of course, this is just one era in our history, we also have the ongoing hatred of blacks left over from the Civil War, and there’s the Native Americans, and so many others.
It seems that so many of our citizens have no place to put their rage, fear, and prejudice so they project it onto innocent people and claim everyone but them is crazy and weak. How many times does this cycle have to take place before humanity collectively is able to look at themselves with a clear eye and realize all this fear, anger and prejudice is within themselves, and so are the crimes and injustices they perpetrate.
Is there no depth of depravity that Trump and his DoJ won’t plumb? Tossing Bondi is just cosmetic … as was Noem’s (and Lewandowski’s) dismissal—new faces for more depredations.
Re Epstein - Trump can't let Bondi testify under oath....
I estimate that inside DOJ there are still 20-30 witnesses that Trump can't let testify.....
Many more DOJ veterans (like Marie Villefana and Maureen Comey) can say what they saw.... He can't let them testify.
Which is why she’s getting a “much needed and important new job…” (Politico) like Kristi is. Also why Guiliani - remember him? - was cosseted.
They are being sent to a farm upstate where they can roam around....
The people should sue Bondi for all her crimes against this country.
Thank you for pointing this out. Stupidly, I had not considered the risk to Trump that Bondi's sworn testimony would represent.
Cosmetic is the perfect word…so many applications….
Which is why that Pentagon makeup room is so important—mascara and blush (and Brylcreem) make the face of evil more presentable.
Lipstick on a pig is still a pig…
But a prettier pig …
The devil in disguise.
Very true. And the makeup room, where all the manly men touch up, is also a good place to hide … from criticism and boneheaded mistakes.
It is to the point they can no longer disguise how evil they are. Now they don't seem to care.
Does Botox come in pills? Also pain medication to treat excessive bending the knee.
I think it is Chapstick that they need most
I’m guessing that’s why all those manly men have tears running down their faces.
Of course it is and is no doubt the replacement will never pass Senate confirmation. I would like to see the appearance before Congress under oath to go forward anyway. Lying to Congress is a crime and she deserves to pay the penalty!
Lying to Congress is a right wing sport. All of the SCOTUS Six swore that Roe v. Wade precedence held sway … until it became “egregious”. Sauer and Bove lied smirkingly. I still shudder at Clarence Thomas’s confirmation questioning before Congress. Lying has become an acceptable profession since Trump.
And a skilled liar will always have a place in the Trump crime regime.
No. There is no bottom for Trump or Miller or any of the others. They always manage to sink lower.
Yes. As I’ve noted elsewhere, they dig deeper and deeper and will soon end up in China.
If only...
A quick answer to your question! “No!”
Also the eternal answer.
David, the answer to your depravity question is NO. There is no bottom to which they will not go and no limit to who they are willing to do harm to. No one is safe which is why we all need to stand up to them, every single time we have the opportunity.
Hard to believe that this little boy in his blue bunny hat is one of the "worst of the worst."
But just think, if this little boy is one of the "worst of the worst," how amazingly wonderful must the better ones be?
“Whoever harms a hair on the head of one of these little ones, it would be better for him if a millstone was tied around his neck and he was thrown into the sea.” Jesus of Nazareth, on the fate of those who mistreat children.
Amein (from a Jewish sister under the same Father)
This dear little boy has touched the heart of every parent in this country! I do not understand how a person can be sent to a detention facility in another state when they can't even go back home and get things or pay rent to be sure they have a place to return to! And why, when we know there is inedible food, and no medications, and no beds to sleep in and CHILDREN ARE IN THESE FACILITIES--please tell me how this can be allowed? The abject cruelty in all this is just so traumatizing for elders like me who grew up here and were blessed with a pleasant childhood, when we are now witnessing the terrible conditions of the detention centers where a person gets sent without a permit to do so, but worse: THEY ARE BEING SENT OUT OF THE COUNTRY, and sometimes to a country that they have NO relatives or do not know the language. How can this be possible? Joyce, can you please give us your explanation of how all this is possible?
I realize there is no stopping our president or his cabinet members, but come November, I want new rules and laws to be instituted in our government to assure that these terrible situations will never ever be repeated! Thank you for listening, and for your daily missives which are so welcome!
Totally agree wanting new rules, or adhere to the constitutional laws and rules. From all the loopholes that have been founded and preyed upon to be shut immediately. It’s vile and the cruelty is what feeds these monstrosities, it needs to stop.
My thoughts exactly. Thank you.
Joyce, could you please finish the paragraph that started with "The federal government is using its resources to try and send 5-year-old Liam Conejo Ramos back to detention in a facility it can’t be bothered to make safe. " It ended with "yet today, trump's" I would like to know what you were going to say about what the administration has done today. I hope and pray that Liam Ramos and his dad are not sent back to Dilley, that they are allowed to stay free as their asylum case progresses.
Mullin needs a helping of detention food.
And not be allowed anything else for, oh, say a month or two.
Mullin is a former plumber so let him experience two(2) toilets for 2,500 people in one of those warehouses?
"Department of Justice" is now the "Department of Just Us" and to hell with everyone else. Despicable, what it has become.
November is coming.
Excellent name!
Of course Trump can’t be bothered to make his prisons even the slightest bit humane … there’s important carpet bombing to see to. And of course, more Epstein subterfuge.
Sounds like the Natzi camps.
Indeed. Not “Alligator Alcatraz” but Alligator Auschwitz.
And a golden ballroom to build…
To which all of MAGA will never be invited.
The governor of Texas has to be an abhorrent person to allow this kind of mistreatment to children and their families and all those in Dilley.
He is that and more.
You are understating the deplorability of Abbott, and for that matter, most of the GOP. Nothing is unacceptable to them as long as it fills coffers and bank accounts of them and their donors.
So true. I remember at one point during 2025, Texas senator John Cornyn posted an image of himself reading, AND HIGHLY RECOMMENDING, DJT's (I just cannot call him president) The Art of the Deal. How out of touch can you get? There is NO bottom.
TOTALLY AGREE - I keep thinking they've sunk as far down as anyone can, then BINGO - they prove they can go even lower and more disgusting.
If these aren't human rights violations, what are? Why no United Nations actionS on these concentration camps?
Or Amnesty International
The cruelty is a feature, not an aberration.
It is almost impossible to read the atrocities that are occurring. These are children that are being permanently scarred for life. It will take years of therapy to try and even become semi normal. What has happened to the autistic girl that is there or Louisiana???
As I understand it, Liam and his family have been denied asylum and they have appealed. I don't think the public has any access to WHY it was denied, or if his arguments were even considered. That's the problem with immigration courts under the thumb of the executive branch.
At the time of the original arrest there was no prohibition on releasing on parole those with pending cases for asylum. So what WAS the probable cause to arrest the family? Now the 8th Circuit seems to have joined with the 5th in the whole idea of "mandatory detention" for anyone who doesn't actually have a green card. Do you think the 5th Circuit will find that probable cause is retrospective, such that the fact that the family is NOW "subject to mandatory detention" is probable cause to arrest at a time of actual arrest?
Because of the way Judge Biery decided this is likely to turn out to be a decision mostly about the validity of administrative warrants as opposed to judicial But that begs the question of whether even the administrative warrant had probable cause; I gather the government presented no evidence that there was anything other than Adrian's status--which at the time, wasn't cause to arrest.
Don't forget ICE agents had quotas to meet daily. Suspect this was originally just a despicable ICE agent trying to get his quota by any means available - until pictures of a cute little boy in a bunny hat who'd never done anything illegal went public. None of this evil insanity resembles anything any sane person would call American or Constitutional.
and - WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE TRUMPSTEIN FILES NAMING THE ABUSERS ??????
Because the cruelty is the point.
Despicable without humanity 😢😡
The people who control these facilities while pocketing our tax money and encouraged by some of our so-called conservative population are much like the greed and hatred during the industrial revolution that persecuted the Irish and Asians while they labored on the canal and RR’s. Of course, this is just one era in our history, we also have the ongoing hatred of blacks left over from the Civil War, and there’s the Native Americans, and so many others.
It seems that so many of our citizens have no place to put their rage, fear, and prejudice so they project it onto innocent people and claim everyone but them is crazy and weak. How many times does this cycle have to take place before humanity collectively is able to look at themselves with a clear eye and realize all this fear, anger and prejudice is within themselves, and so are the crimes and injustices they perpetrate.